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heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 16:01:44
October 06 2011 15:51 GMT
#701
On October 06 2011 23:27 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 23:21 heroyi wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:40 Technique wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:21 CubEdIn wrote:
Think about all the technological advancements in the past 20 years. Can you think of 5-6 names of people who made such discoveries/inventions/etc.?

Apple has made no technological advancements.

Anyways to stay on topic.

R.I.P. master of making shiny things that every1 wants.

troll?

if not, have you ever heard of the iphone?

... Other then it being a well put together mixture of existing technology?...



that is one hell of a ignorant statement.

any sort of evolution in technology=technological advancement

I'm done. I already have peers who think otherwise. No need to attempt to prove to you.

wat wat in my pants
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
October 06 2011 15:53 GMT
#702
If you read what other leading CEOs had to say about Jobs you can tell how revered he is among his peers.
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esperanto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany357 Posts
October 06 2011 16:13 GMT
#703
I feel like I have to make a stand for the quality of apple-products.
Actually I work in video and grafik editing and apple develops the best software or hardware for these areas. Working on an Mac is so much more efficient than on any other computer.
What makes apple apple, always was good decision-making, new inovative things and the fact that all the parts work together to make work or the normal use of a product better.
Sure apples success is part of its marketing, but still they have the best products.

A few things for example: Up to now the touch-screen of an iPhone 1 ist still better and more smooth than most of the touchscreens in 2011 smartphones. The way you navigate through a 16gb music libary on a iPod nano simply amazes you.
I can work with the track-pad on my macbook and its more acurate than a mouse (using the mouse-trackpad on any other notebook is a pain in the ass) + I have gestures that actually help me while working and are not just funny extras to play with.
My macbook never crashed and eventhough its 3 years old the battery still holds 4+ hours while working on it. And the screen even allows me to work while sitting outside in the sun.
Apple supports open-source. In fact thats one of the reason why there are not so many games for apple computers. Apple decided not to go with directX, which is a non-free licenced code. Instead they went with OpenGL which is free, actually alot faster than directX and anyone can work with it.
Apple-Software is much more intuitive, you feel that they actually put thoughts behind what they were doing. The first thought you have when you work on programms like pages, iweb, imovie or keynote is: "I am saving alot time and as by miracle everything looks better created on a mac".
And I never ever had a virus or mysteriously unsolveable network problems on my mac (on my computer all the time "...why am I not connected to the internet anymore?").

If you are a gamer, eventhough gaming isnt everything you do on your computer its hard to understand the value of a computer that is simply made to make your work easier and not for gaming. Still I value it (+ I have Starcraft and Diablo3 which is everything I need) and for ppl like me, apple makes the best products.
All this was Steve Jobs philosophy and thats why he was such a great man. He was an idealist and not a marketing guy. Regarding marketing and market research he always had this quote: "Henry Ford supposedly said if he had asked his customers what they wanted, before coming up with the Model T, they’d have asked for a faster horse."
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
October 06 2011 16:35 GMT
#704
He lived his life indeed :')
RIP Steve Jobs, thank you for amazing speech in 2005 that inspired me a lot.
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
October 06 2011 16:37 GMT
#705
He did more than any man to bring the future to my lifetime. RIP Steve, Apple, America, the World can't replace you.
You live the life you choose.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 16:38:51
October 06 2011 16:38 GMT
#706
Steve Jobs, thank you for all you've done for society and computers. You are one of a kind. I'm sorry you had to go so soon... may you rest in peace.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 16:44:50
October 06 2011 16:38 GMT
#707
I can work with the track-pad on my macbook and its more acurate than a mouse (using the mouse-trackpad on any other notebook is a pain in the ass) + I have gestures that actually help me while working and are not just funny extras to play with.

Maybe you're special, but the vast majority of people are far more accurate with a mouse. Trackpads on PC laptops can also do gestures just fine. In fact, the whole reason we need gestures is because trackpads are usability nightmares otherwise.

My macbook never crashed and eventhough its 3 years old the battery still holds 4+ hours while working on it.

OSes never crash these days. Crashes are almost always caused by bad drivers or bad hardware. Official drivers on PCs tend to be a lot better than on Macs, and bad hardware is a crapshoot on both Macs and PCs. I also find it hard to believe your 3 year old battery still holds that much charge; you must've not used it much. There's nothing special about Mac batteries, they are physically the same as all other batteries. And batteries deteriorate, it's a simple fact of life.
And the screen even allows me to work while sitting outside in the sun.

This is odd. If there's one thing glossy screens suck at, it's being used in the sun. A matte screen is way better at this.
Apple supports open-source. In fact thats one of the reason why there are not so many games for apple computers. Apple decided not to go with directX, which is a non-free licenced code. Instead they went with OpenGL which is free, actually alot faster than directX and anyone can work with it.

LOL. Apple's support for OpenGL is notoriously bad. They're always the slowest to adopt new versions.
Apple-Software is much more intuitive, you feel that they actually put thoughts behind what they were doing. The first thought you have when you work on programms like pages, iweb, imovie or keynote is: "I am saving alot time and as by miracle everything looks better created on a mac".
And I never ever had a virus or mysteriously unsolveable network problems on my mac (on my computer all the time "...why am I not connected to the internet anymore?").

This is just your Apple bias. We all have pre-conceived biases and it's simply a matter of what you're used to. I personally think Apple software is not very intuitive. When I use iTunes, for example, I hate how I can't create a new smart playlist without going into the menu bar. And why is the new playlist button outside the playlist pane, and on the bottom? And why can't I create one using a context menu? Moreover, Apple's continued use of a menu bar is strange, given that menu bars are probably the least intuitive thing ever. On the PC side, the menu bar is getting less and less attention. None of my browsers have one (Chrome and IE9). Office doesn't have one. IM clients don't have one.

Just my opinion though.
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
October 06 2011 16:42 GMT
#708
I guess god just ended the Mac vs PC debate...



All kidding aside, he was a great man, who moved our world forward significantly. He designed his own business model for christ's sake, that's used widely today!
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
October 06 2011 16:50 GMT
#709
The man was amazing at noticing the potential in some obscure piece of technology and storming the tech industry with it. Where would the tech industry be today without Apple bringing out the iPod, iPad and iPhone? Knowing the US, we'd be sitting here squabbling over the merits of having laptops the size of Hummers.
The Black
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States222 Posts
October 06 2011 16:53 GMT
#710
So is this officially the Mac vs PC/What is Steve Jobs real accomplishment thread?

I share the urge to also discuss these issues guys, but please let's do it somewhere and some time else. This is the time for mourning, for a man of immense vision and contribution to humanity. Respect.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 06 2011 17:02 GMT
#711
don't really see what this guy accomplished.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
October 06 2011 17:04 GMT
#712
RIP steve jobs
Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 17:09:41
October 06 2011 17:09 GMT
#713
On October 07 2011 01:42 forgotten0ne wrote:


I guess god just ended the Mac vs PC debate...



Are you for real? Is that supposed to be funny?
Veevro
Profile Joined June 2011
Bahrain17 Posts
October 06 2011 17:10 GMT
#714
RIP man. Unbelievable progress in few years
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Cain0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom608 Posts
October 06 2011 17:11 GMT
#715
On October 07 2011 02:02 oneofthem wrote:
don't really see what this guy accomplished.


He made $8.3bil and was CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world. That is more than you or me will ever accomplish.
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
October 06 2011 17:14 GMT
#716
RIP you baller genius.


Sent from my iPad
Zeiasweigha
Profile Joined July 2011
57 Posts
October 06 2011 17:16 GMT
#717
Thanks for everything you did Steve. RIP.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
October 06 2011 17:16 GMT
#718
It's so awesome how some people can't take their head out of their asses and just say something rude or off-topic to look smart and "indie".

gimme a break. Sometimes people do fucking suck.

RIP Steve.

Thanks for changing the way we see things. Thanks for making Design a must-do. Thanks for changing us all.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
khaosis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada96 Posts
October 06 2011 17:16 GMT
#719
My personal idol and hero. A true visionary to the IT industry, the changes he brought and his dedication to creating the complete product will never be forgotten. RIP.
Alea Iacta Est
BillClinton
Profile Joined November 2009
232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 17:19:58
October 06 2011 17:17 GMT
#720
"Stay hungry, stay foolish"

what a humble wisdom

may he rest in peace
Before you judge sth, keep in mind that the less you know about sth, the more that what you think or pretend to know about it, it says about yourself and your environment.
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