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On October 06 2011 22:40 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:21 CubEdIn wrote: Think about all the technological advancements in the past 20 years. Can you think of 5-6 names of people who made such discoveries/inventions/etc.? Apple has made no technological advancements. Anyways to stay on topic. R.I.P. master of making shiny things that every1 wants.
Whats the thing your using to put this message on the forum?
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While I do think Apple fanboys are a little extreme, this is indeed a severe loss of a great human being. RIP.
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Anybody having a hardware/platform argument in this thread is missing the point, and I can safely assume they miss the point in a lot of social situations. Let it go guys.
Rest in peace Steve. Here's to the crazy ones.
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Let's set Apple aside for a moment, guys.
Steve Jobs also is responsible for fucking PIXAR. Can we at least agree that he was awesome because of that?
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On October 06 2011 22:50 HaXXspetten wrote: While I do think Apple fanboys are a little extreme, this is indeed a severe loss of a great human being. RIP.
Seems like this topic is proof of the anti-Apple fanboys being a little extreme.
RIP Steve, you were a visionary
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RIP, I don't like Mac products at all... but this guy made a huge impact to our lives today and he was a great man imo
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RIP Steve, a man who strived for change.
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On October 06 2011 22:44 yeint wrote:/quote]
I agree completely, but I think it's at least relevant to the man that the types of products he excelled at creating were not just shiny, overpriced crap. The company that created was above all devoted to industrial design, to making beautiful things that are a pleasure to use.
I wholeheartedly agree. However, considering all the haters and lovers and the way anything about Apple derails into discussions about how Apple is or isn't making crap (there's no middle ground, obviously).
Forget not that Jobs had an influence not just on Apple products, but on every single consumer electronic device you use today. Your Android device, your Windows or Linux computer, even your TV is influenced by the man (and the company), even if you refuse to believe that. The graphical user interface, the laptop computer, and a whole bunch of other things. He has 338 patents on his name, and no matter how crap the patent system is, he did invent things.
Let's talk about Pixar too - he was CEO of that company when, in 10 years, it went from $10 million to billions of dollars in worth. He saw potential (again) in a strange company (it wasn't a good time for animation studios) and made it huge. The guy, yesterday, was a living legend. Now, he's just a legend.
There's a whole generation of people who were inspired using things he helped create or envisioned, a generation that is now rising up to take the world even further. Scientists, teachers, artists, politicians, world leaders, etc.
So yeah, the man, to me, is more than the company.
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While I hate Apple, Steve Jobs was still a great buisness man and a visionnary. He was really good at what he did (milking the market), he really made a huge impact. RIP.
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iphone 4S and more important, Steve Jobs death, is going to make things harder for Apple. Steve was a genius
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On October 06 2011 22:40 Technique wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:21 CubEdIn wrote: Think about all the technological advancements in the past 20 years. Can you think of 5-6 names of people who made such discoveries/inventions/etc.? Apple has made no technological advancements. Anyways to stay on topic. R.I.P. master of making shiny things that every1 wants.
That wasn't the point wtf?
I was replying to the "list of great men" or w/e you wanna call it: tesla, edison, einstein, bla bla. I'm saying that you won't see another person revolutionize the industry by themselves. It's just not gonna happen.
These days, revolution goes too fast to notice just one "stand-alone" point. And are you seriously saying that apple has made no technological advancements? Do they not invest tones of money in developing new shit to add to their gadgets? Are you saying that the first ipod looks/feels/acts exactly the same as the new one?
I know they're buying stuff from other manufacturers, sure, but they are advancing their own products as well. Like the display on the iPhone that's pretty much better than anything else on the market. Or the touch/multi-touch technology that was only "REALLY" usable when the iWhatever gadgets came out with touch displays.
Heck, even now, most of the touch displays are much, much harder to use that what Apple has.
And no, I'm not an apple fan. I'm not using any product from them at the moment (as I think they're overpriced). I'm just trying to be objective.
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Don't forget that Apple was not the only contribution Steve Jobs made to the world. Think about Pixar and all the revolutionary things it has achieved in the field of animated film. It's impressive. Please drop the offensive anti-Apple and Steve Jobs comments, they have no place here.
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I won't lie and say that there ever was a time in which I liked the policy of the company Apple, at least not in the latest phase of Steve Jobs as CEO in this century. For me as a nerd, Apple has gained the same reputation as Microsoft over the past years and everyone knows of Microsoft's reputation. During the last century Apple changed from a brand for quality-computers to a brand for overly expensive lifestyle products and nearly has the same monopolistic traits as Microsoft nowadays. However, Steve Jobs was a genius of our age, perhaps his loss will have a negative impact on the computer market. The Apple II and the Macintosh were revolutionary products, the NeXT computers he developed after his first years with Apple were extremely effective work stations. I guess I don't need to adress the popularity of the Pixar movies he invested in. I still think it's fascinating that Jobs worked for one dollar a year after he came back to Apple and as vegan and buddhist he was definitely an interesting personality. In the computer market he's on the same low level as Bill Gates for me these days, but now that he's dead, it's time for me to speak out positive words about his work and his life.
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RIP Steve Jobs...you always knew how to place your money and buy ideas. This is a talent too!
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On October 06 2011 23:08 OneOther wrote: Don't forget that Apple was not the only contribution Steve Jobs made to the world. Think about Pixar and all the revolutionary things it has achieved in the field of animated film. It's impressive. Please drop the offensive anti-Apple and Steve Jobs comments, they have no place here. John Lasseter and especially Ed Catmull revolutionized things in the field of animated film.
Steve Jobs was basically the smart business man.
Anyways i really don't want to sack on the guy, he obviously has done stuff others could only dream of.
So i'll say it once again, RIP.
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RIP Steve Jobs. Cancer just sucks, not much you can do about it
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On October 06 2011 22:40 Technique wrote: Apple has made no technological advancements.
Anyways to stay on topic.
R.I.P. master of making shiny things that every1 wants.
the mouse is a pretty good example of a technology that they made mainstream, hard to play starcraft without one. or Universal serial bus. They were the first to popularize a GUI.
and its not necessarily being the first one to develop or try the technology. its being the first one to make people realize they need it.
Its always sad to see someone lose to cancer.
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On October 06 2011 23:17 ahw wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:40 Technique wrote: Apple has made no technological advancements.
Anyways to stay on topic.
R.I.P. master of making shiny things that every1 wants. the mouse is a pretty good example of a technology that they made mainstream, hard to play starcraft without one. or Universal serial bus. They were the first to popularize a GUI. and its not necessarily being the first one to develop or try the technology. its being the first one to make people realize they need it. Its always sad to see someone lose to cancer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_(computing)
Anyways i agree with the rest of your post, but i still wouldn't call it ''technological advancements'', if you are not the creative mind behind it.
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