EPTOn October 06 2011 21:59 Kevan wrote:
Agreed. He was more of a salesman than a genius.
Agreed. He was more of a salesman than a genius.
A salesman can't be a genious?
Steve Jobs has died after a long struggle with cancer. - P…
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
A salesman can't be a genious? | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
![[image loading]](http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web05/2011/10/6/3/tribute-apple-logo-to-steve-jobs-27927-1317884731-19.jpg){kind=logo} This shouldn't be a pro/against apple thread. If Bill Gates would've died I doubt it would've been the same thing. Apple IS a revolutionary company. Whether the products are worth purchasing or not, it's each individual's choice. Personally, I had about 5 apple products, and I do not think that the price/quality ratio is very good. But that's just me and what I use from each product. It can very well be worth it for the next person, or completely useless for someone else. Arguing about this is silly. P.S.: The era of inventors is over. Now-a-days, technological breakthroughs come from teams of scientists founded by major corporations, such as apple, or governments. I doubt we'll ever have just ONE GUY come up with major theories/inventions/etc. Sure, we'll hear of a name, but it will be quickly buried. The world has changed, information and how it works has changed. Think about all the technological advancements in the past 20 years. Can you think of 5-6 names of people who made such discoveries/inventions/etc.? | ||
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Freerider
Germany26 Posts
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TolEranceNA
Canada434 Posts
But RIP steve. | ||
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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Elasticity
3420 Posts
 my only idol has died. wtf. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
Apple is so dead now btw  | ||
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exnomendei
Netherlands122 Posts
On October 06 2011 21:32 purgerinho wrote: I can't belive someone can say this. I have huge respect towards Steve Jobs and I'm very sad mostly because now I know how awful is cancer. He had so much money and he couldn't win this battle. And I'm sad because he was a big mind. But his products were (and are) too expensive and I will never understand all the hype about them. That products are like Fifa, PES or Football Manager, they come every year and have little improvements. But many of you will stand in big rows to get those products. And because of that I admire him. He wasn't a pop star or movie star but he made all of you jump when he says JUMP. Look at your right hand (unless you're a leftie, or on a laptop - getting to that in a sec). Do you see that thing there? It's a mouse. The mouse was designed to be used with user interfaces. Jobs saw the potential of them and made them a mass-market appeal. He didn't invent them - he marketed them. That's not advertisements, that's finding people who were willing to use a thing. That's marketing, not the 'I'm a mac' and 'If you don't have an iPhone' things. Back to laptops. I'm gonna guess that your laptop (if you have one) has an LCD screen on a hinge, a keyboard and an input device for the cursor in front of it. Jobs saw the technologies (it was a ball back then, but details) and worked to make them come together in a design that is used today by virtually every portable computer out there. Those other three great men I mentioned all had their own areas of expertise, and Jobs did as well. He made information technology into a mass-market consumer area. He's one of the few men (and trust me, I am not forgetting about Gates or other big players here) that gave us the Internet - not invent it, but giving it to consumer and making it practical. The three other great men didn't quite give us things directly, but they helped shape science so things like GPS and, well, electronics, could be made. Steve Jobs was a visionary, not a scientist, this is true, but he is in that list because he gave the world a great part of what shapes our lives today. The man did not deserve to die of cancer at this age, and the money you are implying he 'stole' from the consumers did not help him one bit. The man hardly ever made any extravagant purchases since the iPod came out. And just like Einstein, I think his legacy will live on after Apple has done many a good or bad thing. | ||
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
However Steve Job was an innovative and an intelligent man. I may be a Microsoft fan but I believe that anybody that is at least semi-interested in the technology field should respect him. So please pay your respect for a man who has been influential in this era. Set the differences aside for a second because this man deserves some respect. RIP Steve edit: Considering how Jobs "hand-picked" Mr. Cook I can't help but wonder what Cook's potential is to have Jobs choose him | ||
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Citrustea
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+ Show Spoiler + On October 06 2011 22:21 CubEdIn wrote: . Think about all the technological advancements in the past 20 years. Can you think of 5-6 names of people who made such discoveries/inventions/etc.? Dean Kamen is the one that I can think up at the top of my head. But not many people know him for what he's done (Segway, Insulin pump, etc.). But yeah, I can't think of many after him. RIP Steve! | ||
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Arkhaz
Germany89 Posts
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On October 06 2011 21:52 Bungle wrote: Better for the average person, maybe. It's like the difference between an automatic and manual transmission in a car. Sure automatic is easier to use, but does that make it better? It really comes down to preference, and he was correct - for the price you pay, what you get with apple products (talking primarily computers) is usually obsolete technology at a largely inflated price. You're buying into a brand name and that's about it. Any electronic device is more than the sum of its tech specs. Build quality and industrial design, and especially software matter. They matter much, much more than how fast the FSB is, or whether your mp3 player has a built-in FM radio. How easy is syncing content? How responsive and intuitive is the UI? How good is the build quality? Those things matter to me far more than random bells and whistles. Every device except my PC is in essence an appliance. If Apple made refrigerators, they would be energy efficient, beautiful, and perfectly designed to refrigerate food. If Apple's competitors made refrigerators, they would have internet browsers running Windows XP Tablet Edition on the door. a lot of the sales tactic they (Apple) do, i.e. have a new "upgraded" model of w.e item in less than 3 months to force fans to buy it essentially... Wha? That's the opposite of what they do. Apple has an incredibly compact product line, and they update their specs annually at most. The iPhone 4 came out in June 2010. The 4S is an updated version with newer hardware, and is coming out 14 months later. How many versions of the Galaxy has Samsung put out since June 2010? | ||
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exnomendei
Netherlands122 Posts
On October 06 2011 22:32 heroyi wrote: Personally I hate the Mac products and a lot of the sales tactic they (Apple) do, i.e. have a new "upgraded" model of w.e item in less than 3 months to force fans to buy it essentially... There are no models in Apple's line up that are ever changed within 3 months. Few are below a yearly cycle. Furthermore, Apple products are very upgradeable. Sure, 1-2 features are always reserved for the newest version (Video recording on the iPhone 3GS, Siri on the new 4S), but the iPhone 3GS, a phone from 2009, is being upgraded where Android phones from 2011 are not. The same goes for their other products. However, I'd like to remind people of something: We're talking about Steve Jobs, and not Apple, here. The two are hard to seperate, and everybody's got an opinion on Apple, but let's try and keep things about the man, not the corporation. | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On October 06 2011 22:21 CubEdIn wrote: Think about all the technological advancements in the past 20 years. Can you think of 5-6 names of people who made such discoveries/inventions/etc.? Apple has made no technological advancements. Anyways to stay on topic. R.I.P. master of making shiny things that every1 wants. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
We're talking about Steve Jobs, and not Apple, here. The two are hard to seperate, and everybody's got an opinion on Apple, but let's try and keep things about the man, not the corporation. I agree completely, but I think it's at least relevant to the man that the types of products he excelled at creating were not just shiny, overpriced crap. The company that created was above all devoted to industrial design, to making beautiful things that are a pleasure to use. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
R.I.P. Steve Jobs | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
On October 06 2011 21:36 yeint wrote: How many versions of the Galaxy has Samsung put out since June 2010? Just enough, it takes alot to open the eyes of the apple blinded. And thankfully their "apple" has fallen very far from the tree... But on a serious note the galaxy series has not yet had one single mdoel where it is simply a slight upgrade on an existing phone. The closest you will come to that is between the Galaxy S and the S2. But compare the differences between those handsets, and in turn compare this with the difference between Apples and the "S" versions. You'll see one is like a new phone and the other is a tech upgrade in order to stop it getting severly outclassed. | ||
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
On October 06 2011 22:39 exnomendei wrote: There are no models in Apple's line up that are ever changed within 3 months. Few are below a yearly cycle. Furthermore, Apple products are very upgradeable. Sure, 1-2 features are always reserved for the newest version (Video recording on the iPhone 3GS, Siri on the new 4S), but the iPhone 3GS, a phone from 2009, is being upgraded where Android phones from 2011 are not. The same goes for their other products. However, I'd like to remind people of something: [b]We're talking about Steve Jobs, and not Apple, here. The two are hard to seperate, and everybody's got an opinion on Apple, but let's try and keep things about the man, not the corporation.[b] Nice try, but did you even bother reading the rest? I stated MY stance, MY OPINION on Apple. Apple =/= Steve Jobs. The main point of my post was to PAY RESPECT FOR HIM. I am not going to say anymore than that Mr. Jobs is a respected man. That is all. | ||
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