On July 06 2011 06:50 Klaus1986 wrote:
They need some hair stylists in Korea. Stat.
They need some hair stylists in Korea. Stat.
I dunno, I think it's pretty funny how almost everyone has identical hair.
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On July 06 2011 06:50 Klaus1986 wrote: They need some hair stylists in Korea. Stat. I dunno, I think it's pretty funny how almost everyone has identical hair. | ||
mikyaJ
1834 Posts
On July 06 2011 06:48 Denzil wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 04:48 hypno_toad wrote: I agree that MVP isn't the best anymore...But MC and Nestea are still the best of their races hands down Would you say that MKP is the best for Terran right now? I know he's come second a lot but you can't deny how consistant a player he is. @Tachion If we're going to call DRG the second best Zerg then we need to call MMA the best Terran. Team league kills don't mean anything, you need tournaments to put under your belt of which Idra has quite a few compared to DRG's team league kills. IdrA has some foreign tournaments, so what. And no that would not make MMA the best Terran in the world, that would make him one of the best. Guess what? They're both in Code B. And DRG won the LG 3d Special League. That's a result. And in regards to MKP, he's not consistent at all. He's been knocked out in the Ro32 in every single Code S regular season save for January. NaDa, is consistent. People need to stop bringing foreign tournaments into these as well. They don't matter to the Korean scene, that's why we have separate TLPD databases. | ||
Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On July 06 2011 06:50 dooraven wrote: He has one win pretty much. He's still not even Code A. Even if the qualifiers are brutal if he was such a good player that he'd have some sort of consistency when it comes to results.Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 06:46 Elem wrote: On July 06 2011 06:42 Tachion wrote: Because while DRG is intensively skilled he has no results outside of some baller Team League kills. You need some sorts of results to claim that you are such a good Zerg that you are ''second best on the planet''.On July 06 2011 06:39 Elem wrote: As much as I love DRG, he isn't better than IdrA. Why in the world would you make that claim? He won 3-2 in the LG Cinema 3D tourney against sC. He has the results considering he doesn't participate in much. What's even more suprising is that Korea = Terranland, with his ZvT he'd roll his was through if he had some consistency. | ||
Wuster
1974 Posts
On July 06 2011 06:27 lunchforthesky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 06:22 Wuster wrote: On July 06 2011 06:16 lunchforthesky wrote: On July 06 2011 06:01 Olinim wrote: On July 06 2011 05:53 IcedBacon wrote: ...LosirA? his vT is just too bad to ever be a top player IMO. He's already a top player. Most of his vs T loses have been to SC and MMA, who are both extremely good vs Z. Feels like he loses to just about everyone ZvT. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=688&part=games&league=standard&vs=T So, since March when he won Code A (I don't think there's any worth in anything before that) he's lost in ZvT versus Polt, MKP, MMA, SC and Bomber. None of those are terrible losses they are all amongst the very, very best Terran's. If you look at his international TLPD, you'll see he has no trouble beating average Terran's so his ZvT is hardly awful it's just weaker, which is not too suprising given he has the second best ZvZ and ZvP in the world. Losira definitely has a strange game list vT. On one hand he hasn't really played bad Terrans to inflate his stats. But, he still hasn't beat many of them (He beat Supernova, but SN claims he has no idea how to play TvZ and it kinda looked that way). To me he still has to prove that he can play with top Terrans to convince me that his vT is actually good (beating MKP is a good start). | ||
drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
On July 06 2011 06:48 Denzil wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 04:48 hypno_toad wrote: I agree that MVP isn't the best anymore...But MC and Nestea are still the best of their races hands down Would you say that MKP is the best for Terran right now? I know he's come second a lot but you can't deny how consistant a player he is. @Tachion If we're going to call DRG the second best Zerg then we need to call MMA the best Terran. Team league kills don't mean anything, you need tournaments to put under your belt of which Idra has quite a few compared to DRG's team league kills. I know I might get hate for this but I feel the only style that MKP can play at a top level is bad, and very predictable. The kid literally just makes marines and tries to kill you. If they are ready for him MarineKing is not that great IMO | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On July 06 2011 06:18 lunchforthesky wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 06:15 Z3kk wrote: Should Huk get a mention? Dreamhack was crazy :o Just wondering/personal opinion He's not really up and coming and he's done nothing really in Korea. His Code A run was really easy/unassuming and so far in Code S he lost his group games and beat MMA to stay in Code S. He lost to Polt in the second round of the Super Tournament. This is a big Code S for Huk, results at Dreamhack suggests he's improved a lot, but we'll see if that translates into succeeding in Code S. I wasn't aware that Korean tournaments were the only ones that mattered. | ||
drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
On July 06 2011 07:05 Whitewing wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 06:18 lunchforthesky wrote: On July 06 2011 06:15 Z3kk wrote: Should Huk get a mention? Dreamhack was crazy :o Just wondering/personal opinion He's not really up and coming and he's done nothing really in Korea. His Code A run was really easy/unassuming and so far in Code S he lost his group games and beat MMA to stay in Code S. He lost to Polt in the second round of the Super Tournament. This is a big Code S for Huk, results at Dreamhack suggests he's improved a lot, but we'll see if that translates into succeeding in Code S. I wasn't aware that Korean tournaments were the only ones that mattered. Article is about the Korean scene man. He's talented, but his play hasn't been ultra impressive in the GSL so far. If his results in Korea begin to mirror his success abroad, sure, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On July 06 2011 07:20 drgonzhere wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 07:05 Whitewing wrote: On July 06 2011 06:18 lunchforthesky wrote: On July 06 2011 06:15 Z3kk wrote: Should Huk get a mention? Dreamhack was crazy :o Just wondering/personal opinion He's not really up and coming and he's done nothing really in Korea. His Code A run was really easy/unassuming and so far in Code S he lost his group games and beat MMA to stay in Code S. He lost to Polt in the second round of the Super Tournament. This is a big Code S for Huk, results at Dreamhack suggests he's improved a lot, but we'll see if that translates into succeeding in Code S. I wasn't aware that Korean tournaments were the only ones that mattered. Article is about the Korean scene man. He's talented, but his play hasn't been ultra impressive in the GSL so far. If his results in Korea begin to mirror his success abroad, sure, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It's fine if you want it to be just about Koreans, but it would be nice if that was mentioned somewhere, like in the title of the thread or in the article somewhere. As is, it gives the impression that there aren't any foreigners that matter at all, and that isn't the case, with foreigners playing against koreans and winning in various LAN tournaments. | ||
MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
On July 06 2011 07:24 Whitewing wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 07:20 drgonzhere wrote: On July 06 2011 07:05 Whitewing wrote: On July 06 2011 06:18 lunchforthesky wrote: On July 06 2011 06:15 Z3kk wrote: Should Huk get a mention? Dreamhack was crazy :o Just wondering/personal opinion He's not really up and coming and he's done nothing really in Korea. His Code A run was really easy/unassuming and so far in Code S he lost his group games and beat MMA to stay in Code S. He lost to Polt in the second round of the Super Tournament. This is a big Code S for Huk, results at Dreamhack suggests he's improved a lot, but we'll see if that translates into succeeding in Code S. I wasn't aware that Korean tournaments were the only ones that mattered. Article is about the Korean scene man. He's talented, but his play hasn't been ultra impressive in the GSL so far. If his results in Korea begin to mirror his success abroad, sure, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. It's fine if you want it to be just about Koreans, but it would be nice if that was mentioned somewhere, like in the title of the thread or in the article somewhere. As is, it gives the impression that there aren't any foreigners that matter at all, and that isn't the case, with foreigners playing against koreans and winning in various LAN tournaments. I mean, if you take it that way. There's been two LANS where a foreigner, who lives in Korea, has won with Korean competition. Koreans, or those who practice there, are better right now, no way around it. | ||
drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
On July 06 2011 07:33 MechKing wrote: It's weird that you put puma in there over so many other terrans. Byun, Alive, Supernova, TOP, Clide, Virus, Ensnare, Keen, Nada etc. but you pick Puma? lol. Did you read the purpose of the write up? | ||
MechKing
United States3004 Posts
On July 06 2011 07:34 drgonzhere wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 07:33 MechKing wrote: It's weird that you put puma in there over so many other terrans. Byun, Alive, Supernova, TOP, Clide, Virus, Ensnare, Keen, Nada etc. but you pick Puma? lol. Did you read the purpose of the write up? I'm not quite sure I understand it. You put sC and Polt in there but you also put in Puma and MMA? Are these supposed to be all up and comers or what? If it's supposed to be up and comers, why no Ganzi, Taeja, IceCream, Hack, asd, Ryung, Sculp, Jjakji? | ||
Tortious_Tortoise
United States944 Posts
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drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
On July 06 2011 07:46 MechKing wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 07:34 drgonzhere wrote: On July 06 2011 07:33 MechKing wrote: It's weird that you put puma in there over so many other terrans. Byun, Alive, Supernova, TOP, Clide, Virus, Ensnare, Keen, Nada etc. but you pick Puma? lol. Did you read the purpose of the write up? I'm not quite sure I understand it. You put sC and Polt in there but you also put in Puma and MMA? Are these supposed to be all up and comers or what? If it's supposed to be up and comers, why no Ganzi, Taeja, IceCream, Hack, asd, Ryung, Sculp, Jjakji? Because none of these except for Ganzi, have produced any incredibly meaningful results. If you're insinuating that sC and Polt are old institutions of the Terran race, I disagree completely. While they may have been around for a while, there skills have increased dramatically in the past month or two. I'm sorry I don't have time to write about every single Terran who has picked up a couple games. These are just the ones that impressed the most. I mean Polt went from being one of the worst in Code S to a Super Tournament Champion. I mean if you have the time to write detailed descriptions of all of those Terrans and their play style be my guest. | ||
MechKing
United States3004 Posts
On July 06 2011 07:54 drgonzhere wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 07:46 MechKing wrote: On July 06 2011 07:34 drgonzhere wrote: On July 06 2011 07:33 MechKing wrote: It's weird that you put puma in there over so many other terrans. Byun, Alive, Supernova, TOP, Clide, Virus, Ensnare, Keen, Nada etc. but you pick Puma? lol. Did you read the purpose of the write up? I'm not quite sure I understand it. You put sC and Polt in there but you also put in Puma and MMA? Are these supposed to be all up and comers or what? If it's supposed to be up and comers, why no Ganzi, Taeja, IceCream, Hack, asd, Ryung, Sculp, Jjakji? Because none of these except for Ganzi, have produced any incredibly meaningful results. If you're insinuating that sC and Polt are old institutions of the Terran race, I disagree completely. While they may have been around for a while, there skills have increased dramatically in the past month or two. I'm sorry I don't have time to write about every single Terran who has picked up a couple games. These are just the ones that impressed the most. I mean Polt went from being one of the worst in Code S to a Super Tournament Champion. I mean if you have the time to write detailed descriptions of all of those Terrans and their play style be my guest. sC went through code A into S in one try and Polt has stayed in code S the whole time. I just thought it was weird that you put two code S players and 2 Code B players in there. You could put so many more players in there lol. | ||
drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
On July 06 2011 07:58 MechKing wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 07:54 drgonzhere wrote: On July 06 2011 07:46 MechKing wrote: On July 06 2011 07:34 drgonzhere wrote: On July 06 2011 07:33 MechKing wrote: It's weird that you put puma in there over so many other terrans. Byun, Alive, Supernova, TOP, Clide, Virus, Ensnare, Keen, Nada etc. but you pick Puma? lol. Did you read the purpose of the write up? I'm not quite sure I understand it. You put sC and Polt in there but you also put in Puma and MMA? Are these supposed to be all up and comers or what? If it's supposed to be up and comers, why no Ganzi, Taeja, IceCream, Hack, asd, Ryung, Sculp, Jjakji? Because none of these except for Ganzi, have produced any incredibly meaningful results. If you're insinuating that sC and Polt are old institutions of the Terran race, I disagree completely. While they may have been around for a while, there skills have increased dramatically in the past month or two. I'm sorry I don't have time to write about every single Terran who has picked up a couple games. These are just the ones that impressed the most. I mean Polt went from being one of the worst in Code S to a Super Tournament Champion. I mean if you have the time to write detailed descriptions of all of those Terrans and their play style be my guest. sC went through code A into S in one try and Polt has stayed in code S the whole time. I just thought it was weird that you put two code S players and 2 Code B players in there. You could put so many more players in there lol. Being in Code S doesn't equal being good. They were not great players until very recently. Code's don't matter skill does. | ||
LeakyBucket
Canada76 Posts
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
On July 06 2011 08:00 drgonzhere wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 07:58 MechKing wrote: On July 06 2011 07:54 drgonzhere wrote: On July 06 2011 07:46 MechKing wrote: On July 06 2011 07:34 drgonzhere wrote: On July 06 2011 07:33 MechKing wrote: It's weird that you put puma in there over so many other terrans. Byun, Alive, Supernova, TOP, Clide, Virus, Ensnare, Keen, Nada etc. but you pick Puma? lol. Did you read the purpose of the write up? I'm not quite sure I understand it. You put sC and Polt in there but you also put in Puma and MMA? Are these supposed to be all up and comers or what? If it's supposed to be up and comers, why no Ganzi, Taeja, IceCream, Hack, asd, Ryung, Sculp, Jjakji? Because none of these except for Ganzi, have produced any incredibly meaningful results. If you're insinuating that sC and Polt are old institutions of the Terran race, I disagree completely. While they may have been around for a while, there skills have increased dramatically in the past month or two. I'm sorry I don't have time to write about every single Terran who has picked up a couple games. These are just the ones that impressed the most. I mean Polt went from being one of the worst in Code S to a Super Tournament Champion. I mean if you have the time to write detailed descriptions of all of those Terrans and their play style be my guest. sC went through code A into S in one try and Polt has stayed in code S the whole time. I just thought it was weird that you put two code S players and 2 Code B players in there. You could put so many more players in there lol. Being in Code S doesn't equal being good. They were not great players until very recently. Code's don't matter skill does. So Code S players aren't good. I learned something new today. So you think Puma is better overall than most of the Terrans in code S or A just because he got some results recently? Of course the codes matter. Puma hasn't gotten into code A, yet you say he can become one of the best in the world. Stop being so ridiculous. | ||
Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On July 06 2011 07:54 mbr2321 wrote: This thread will be >9000% obsolete after Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu all join SC2 So you're saying this thread still has a long time of relevancy left. | ||
drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
On July 06 2011 08:02 MechKing wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 08:00 drgonzhere wrote: On July 06 2011 07:58 MechKing wrote: On July 06 2011 07:54 drgonzhere wrote: On July 06 2011 07:46 MechKing wrote: On July 06 2011 07:34 drgonzhere wrote: On July 06 2011 07:33 MechKing wrote: It's weird that you put puma in there over so many other terrans. Byun, Alive, Supernova, TOP, Clide, Virus, Ensnare, Keen, Nada etc. but you pick Puma? lol. Did you read the purpose of the write up? I'm not quite sure I understand it. You put sC and Polt in there but you also put in Puma and MMA? Are these supposed to be all up and comers or what? If it's supposed to be up and comers, why no Ganzi, Taeja, IceCream, Hack, asd, Ryung, Sculp, Jjakji? Because none of these except for Ganzi, have produced any incredibly meaningful results. If you're insinuating that sC and Polt are old institutions of the Terran race, I disagree completely. While they may have been around for a while, there skills have increased dramatically in the past month or two. I'm sorry I don't have time to write about every single Terran who has picked up a couple games. These are just the ones that impressed the most. I mean Polt went from being one of the worst in Code S to a Super Tournament Champion. I mean if you have the time to write detailed descriptions of all of those Terrans and their play style be my guest. sC went through code A into S in one try and Polt has stayed in code S the whole time. I just thought it was weird that you put two code S players and 2 Code B players in there. You could put so many more players in there lol. Being in Code S doesn't equal being good. They were not great players until very recently. Code's don't matter skill does. So Code S players aren't good. I learned something new today. So you think Puma is better overall than most of the Terrans in code S or A just because he got some results recently? Of course the codes matter. Puma hasn't gotten into code A, yet you say he can become one of the best in the world. Stop being so ridiculous. You are the one who is being ridiculous. I didn't say code S players are bad. I said just because you are in Code S doesn't mean you are one of the best players of your race, or at least an UP AND COMING player of your race, which is what the write up is about. That is a perfectly rational viewpoint to have. Look at players like MMA, DRG, and yes Puma. Have you ever seen Puma play? Do you really think that MarineKing is better than him at T v T after watching him play? Even KawaiiRice has responded in this thread as to how amazing Puma is. Idk maybe you have a problem with Puma, did he do something to you? Did he ruin your fantasy GSTL? | ||
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