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Glueburn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States496 Posts
July 06 2011 00:33 GMT
#141
On July 06 2011 09:31 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 09:21 GoKu` wrote:
You need to add IMHappy he was a beast in Warcraft 3 and has been playing less then grubby moon and lyn and is now a beast.

The WC3 Happy is the European Happy (Empire), not the Korean Happy (IM).


Lol, this gets so ridiculously confusing when I'm looking at Ranks and stuff
Sometimes you have to play a long time to be able to play like yourself. - Miles Davis
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
July 06 2011 00:41 GMT
#142
On July 06 2011 08:30 MCDayC wrote:
A nice article, and well written, but I have 1 question?
Why does no one even mention oGsTOP? He won Code A, got to the semi finals of the ST and was the only player even close to beating Polt. He knocked out Nestea. He's a beast, and he's already proven himself against top (pardon the pun) players. He's got to be considered at the forefront of his race right now.


TOP has been one of the best Terran's since Season One. He arguably should have beaten Fruitdealer, and If he would have, most likely could have won the first season. For that reason I don't consider him up and coming because he's been around forever.

Also @Subversion
I'm not saying sC is the king of terran, just that he is one of the race's most prominent rising star.
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pandaminion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States270 Posts
July 06 2011 00:45 GMT
#143
Would have liked to see Losira or Leenock in this. Leenock invented the Macrohatch-Evo-Spine-Queen wall that shuts down Hellion harass on those maps that have naturals with huge ramps (Tal Darim, Belshir, Crevasse, etc.) And Losira is the successor to Nestea, with incredible APM and signature T1 play that allowed him to crush face at the recent MLG Columbus.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 00:51:33
July 06 2011 00:49 GMT
#144
I disagree about MC not being "the king of his race". He is just as much the king of protoss as Nestea is of Zerg. Granted, he was taken out by AMAZING micro by Alicia in the super tournament, but that was really something else. I think MC's PvP has slipped a bit, but he's gonna keep on dominating PvZ (even tho his style is getting a little bit tired there now) and his PvT is still incredible. I wouldn't expect him to fall from grace for some time.

That said, Puzzle really impressed me and Alicia also has been amazing (Captain of my fantasy GSTL actually). But MC will have the throne a while longer I think.

Edit:

Also, blatent fanboyism but MKP is gonna start his era of dominance soon I think. His run through the NASL Season2 qualifiers was breathtaking.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
July 06 2011 00:52 GMT
#145
On July 06 2011 09:49 TheDougler wrote:
I disagree about MC not being "the king of his race". He is just as much the king of protoss as Nestea is of Zerg. Granted, he was taken out by AMAZING micro by Alicia in the super tournament, but that was really something else. I think MC's PvP has slipped a bit, but he's gonna keep on dominating PvZ (even tho his style is getting a little bit tired there now) and his PvT is still incredible. I wouldn't expect him to fall from grace for some time.

That said, Puzzle really impressed me and Alicia also has been amazing (Captain of my fantasy GSTL actually). But MC will have the throne a while longer I think.

Edit:

Also, blatent fanboyism but MKP is gonna start his era of dominance soon I think. His run through the NASL Season2 qualifiers was breathtaking.


Totally agree dude, I just think his stranglehold on being the Boss Toss, is weakening a little is all.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
July 06 2011 01:05 GMT
#146
I clicked "Show Spoiler" under Zerg and got shown Line and Coca instead of Leenock.

Naturally, I am disappoint =(

Not a new face I guess, but sC isn't new in my eyes, just in other peoples for some reason because he had to come through Code A? Polt also been around forever, but only noticeable recently. Feels like the Zerg and Protoss names are the "Oh god these guys are good and have come out of nowhere in the last season or two" whereas Terran are like "These guys have been good for a while, recently really good though + PuMa".

So yeah, nice thread idea, but I feel like you only hit the mark with Zerg and Protoss, whilst Terran just listed non new faces =/
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drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
July 06 2011 01:10 GMT
#147
On July 06 2011 10:05 bittman wrote:
I clicked "Show Spoiler" under Zerg and got shown Line and Coca instead of Leenock.

Naturally, I am disappoint =(

Not a new face I guess, but sC isn't new in my eyes, just in other peoples for some reason because he had to come through Code A? Polt also been around forever, but only noticeable recently. Feels like the Zerg and Protoss names are the "Oh god these guys are good and have come out of nowhere in the last season or two" whereas Terran are like "These guys have been good for a while, recently really good though + PuMa".

So yeah, nice thread idea, but I feel like you only hit the mark with Zerg and Protoss, whilst Terran just listed non new faces =/


Leenock, has been around since Open Season 2 I believe and he was considered the best player on fOu until last month when sC became way gosu. Admittedly the terran players are not as fresh and I regret that, but I honestly don't see many Terrans in the last few months who are playing at these players level recently. IMHappy is really the only one, but he has played very inferior opponents so far in Code A. I do consider him to be very talented though. Of course this isn't the end all be all thread of up and comers I fully expect the landscape to change in several months. I just couldn't think of many new new really talented Terrans.
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dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
July 06 2011 01:17 GMT
#148
This is the type of thread I come to TeamLiquid for! Excellent write-up. Can't wait to watch games by Puma and also ZenexLine... I have yet to see them play.
YerknYass
Profile Joined January 2011
United States33 Posts
July 06 2011 01:20 GMT
#149
Definitely going to have to hunt down the Puma games--hungry for some inspired Terran play. As much as I appreciate SC and Polt, they are mind-numbingly standard (although Polt started to show some flair in the finals) and hard to root for or care about.
I'm blowin' up like you thought I would, Call the crib, same numba' same hood, it's all good- B.I.G.
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
July 06 2011 03:09 GMT
#150
Hey guys, just wanted to say thanks for all the feedback so far. It means alot to have people pay attention to something I worked so hard on!
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KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
July 06 2011 20:23 GMT
#151
Definitely needs some HuK in there.
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DarkenedLite
Profile Joined April 2011
United States188 Posts
July 06 2011 20:38 GMT
#152
Great post and I have largely gotten the same feeling about the players that you mentioned and I really look forward to seeing what kind of play we see out of them in future GSL events.
You can only win the game when you understand that it is a game.
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
July 06 2011 20:44 GMT
#153
On July 07 2011 05:23 KevinIX wrote:
Definitely needs some HuK in there.


I know, he really impressed me last night. At the time of writing however, he hadn't done too too much in the Korean scene.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 06 2011 20:46 GMT
#154
On July 06 2011 09:52 drgonzhere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 09:49 TheDougler wrote:
I disagree about MC not being "the king of his race". He is just as much the king of protoss as Nestea is of Zerg. Granted, he was taken out by AMAZING micro by Alicia in the super tournament, but that was really something else. I think MC's PvP has slipped a bit, but he's gonna keep on dominating PvZ (even tho his style is getting a little bit tired there now) and his PvT is still incredible. I wouldn't expect him to fall from grace for some time.

That said, Puzzle really impressed me and Alicia also has been amazing (Captain of my fantasy GSTL actually). But MC will have the throne a while longer I think.

Edit:

Also, blatent fanboyism but MKP is gonna start his era of dominance soon I think. His run through the NASL Season2 qualifiers was breathtaking.


Totally agree dude, I just think his stranglehold on being the Boss Toss, is weakening a little is all.


I remember how after his second championship he seemed so, so strong, like literally unbeatable. Here's to hoping for a third ^^
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Juke290
Profile Joined March 2011
Egypt316 Posts
July 06 2011 20:46 GMT
#155
Nice work, I think the zerg king is still clear with NesTea having the crown clearly, terran theres a bunch of people now to where you can't specifically name one person(also no Bomber on the list, so I do disagree with that).

Protoss, I think Alicia personally is better than MC, but we'll see about that, Sage is someone that can become really really good, and Puzzle looks like someone who could be a steady code s player.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 20:50:22
July 06 2011 20:49 GMT
#156
On July 07 2011 05:46 SSLPrism wrote:
Nice work, I think the zerg king is still clear with NesTea having the crown clearly, terran theres a bunch of people now to where you can't specifically name one person(also no Bomber on the list, so I do disagree with that).

Protoss, I think Alicia personally is better than MC, but we'll see about that, Sage is someone that can become really really good, and Puzzle looks like someone who could be a steady code s player.

Alicia's pvz is atrocious...even if you think maybe alicia has a better matchup, MC is much more solid overall( stastically alicia is inferior to MC in every way) how can you say someone with no tourney results is better than MC >.>
drgonzhere
Profile Joined November 2010
United States447 Posts
July 06 2011 20:49 GMT
#157
On July 07 2011 05:46 SSLPrism wrote:
Nice work, I think the zerg king is still clear with NesTea having the crown clearly, terran theres a bunch of people now to where you can't specifically name one person(also no Bomber on the list, so I do disagree with that).

Protoss, I think Alicia personally is better than MC, but we'll see about that, Sage is someone that can become really really good, and Puzzle looks like someone who could be a steady code s player.


Yeah, the thing about Bomber is we've been hearing about how this guy might actually be the best Terran in the world since January, so I don't really think he's fresh enough you know?
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DarkenedLite
Profile Joined April 2011
United States188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 20:54:28
July 06 2011 20:54 GMT
#158
(Z)NesTea will always be my favorite Zerg, but I have really enjoyed watching (Z)Line lately and I hope to get a better look at his ZvT as I think it really suits my style.

(P)Alicia hasn't been performing as well in PvT as Artosis' comments have lead us to believe, but he still seems to be very competent in every match-up, even beating (P)MC in the Super Tournament in games that were mostly micro wars. A skill that most attribute to his opponent.
You can only win the game when you understand that it is a game.
galtdunn
Profile Joined March 2011
United States977 Posts
July 06 2011 20:58 GMT
#159
I love threads like this! Top dogs will be top dogs, but I will root for the underdogs!!
(unless it's Nestea cause, I mean... come on. He's Nestea).
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 06 2011 21:07 GMT
#160
I can't wait till drg makes it into code s. I feel he's the 2nd best zerg in the world behind nestea. There's no zerg in code s other than nestea who is better than him. Kyrix and Violet being in code s over him makes me weep.
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