EPTI can't wait till drg makes it into code s.
Just a matter of time IMO. ^^
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Canada3609 Posts
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
MVP is certainly not. MC is still the best imo, but not like NesTea where he is the reaper of nerd souls. NesTea in action during May  ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/081nQ.jpg) | ||
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Sworn
Canada920 Posts
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drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:18 Sworn wrote: Where Bomber on the terran line up I would say Bomber is scarier than SC or MMA and defs more scary than Puma lol. He defs needs to be there. You should defs read the part where I talk about how Bomber has been the best Terran in the world since pretty much January, and how anyone who has defs been paying attention to the scene would have defs heard about him before players like MMA and PuMA. Defs not an up and comer. | ||
Poopi
France13023 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:10 NexUmbra wrote: NesTea is by far the undisputed champion of Zerg. MVP is certainly not. MC is still the best imo, but not like NesTea where he is the reaper of nerd souls. The thing is that NesTea and MC are undisputed champion of their races because there are SO FEW good protoss or zerg around. Their GSL runs were not incredible, except for NesTea season 2 but that was not comparable with Mvp period of dominance : Mvp trashed NesTea and MKP two times (GSL Code S S1 and Gainward), NaDa or TheStC, and 5-0ed an entire zerg line-up, while being on top of the ladder. Since there are many very good terrans it's harder to still be considered the "king", whereas MC and NesTea are top of their races despite relatively bad showings (same as Mvp) in several seasons. Oh and yeah MKP's era of dominance will start sooner or later, his nerves won't stop his incredible raw skill for too long. | ||
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Sworn
Canada920 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:23 drgonzhere wrote: You should defs read the part where I talk about how Bomber has been the best Terran in the world since pretty much January, and how anyone who has defs been paying attention to the scene would have defs heard about him before players like MMA and PuMA. Defs not an up and comer. Thats the thing though Bomber came up around the same time as MMA so I didn't understand why you would classify him with MKP since MKP has been around forever while Bomber is quite new still. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:24 Poopi wrote: The thing is that NesTea and MC are undisputed champion of their races because there are SO FEW good protoss or zerg around. Their GSL runs were not incredible, except for NesTea season 2 but that was not comparable with Mvp period of dominance : Mvp trashed NesTea and MKP two times (GSL Code S S1 and Gainward), NaDa or TheStC, and 5-0ed an entire zerg line-up, while being on top of the ladder. Since there are many very good terrans it's harder to still be considered the "king", whereas MC and NesTea are top of their races despite relatively bad showings (same as Mvp) in several seasons. Oh and yeah MKP's era of dominance will start sooner or later, his nerves won't stop his incredible raw skill for too long. How was GSL 3 not an impressive run? MC demolished all competition. | ||
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Poopi
France13023 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:26 Olinim wrote: How was GSL 3 not an impressive run? MC demolished all competition. The only good player he beat was MKP, whereas Mvp destroyed the zerg king and 2nd best terran. | ||
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Olinim
4044 Posts
jinro was considered best foreigner if not best terran at the time and he got destroyed. Nestea didnt face that great of players in his run either, besides MKP. | ||
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JustPassingBy
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
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Mano
United States192 Posts
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drgonzhere
United States447 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:25 Sworn wrote: Thats the thing though Bomber came up around the same time as MMA so I didn't understand why you would classify him with MKP since MKP has been around forever while Bomber is quite new still. MMA wasn't on the same level until like last month though. The first time we saw MMA it was in the team league in Feb. Where he got 3-kills against a then bad line up of Zenex player only to lose to Hack. It wasn't until late March that he became the hero of the team league, and it wasn't until the last month or two that he was talked about as one of the best terrans in the world. Also don't hate on PuMa kid was better than Bomber in BW, and he will soon be better than Bomber in SC2. | ||
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Poopi
France13023 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:31 Olinim wrote: jinro was considered best foreigner if not best terran at the time and he got destroyed. Nestea didnt face that great of players in his run either, besides MKP. NesTea was 16-0 and MKP trashed badly the S1 finalists so it was much much harder than Rain... Pretty sure that Jinro wasn't considered best terran, only best foreigner. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:24 Poopi wrote: The thing is that NesTea and MC are undisputed champion of their races because there are SO FEW good protoss or zerg around. Their GSL runs were not incredible, except for NesTea season 2 but that was not comparable with Mvp period of dominance : Mvp trashed NesTea and MKP two times (GSL Code S S1 and Gainward), NaDa or TheStC, and 5-0ed an entire zerg line-up, while being on top of the ladder. Since there are many very good terrans it's harder to still be considered the "king", whereas MC and NesTea are top of their races despite relatively bad showings (same as Mvp) in several seasons. Oh and yeah MKP's era of dominance will start sooner or later, his nerves won't stop his incredible raw skill for too long. In the 2 Seasons MC has won GSL he absolutely crushed everyone in his path, it was total dominance. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:29 Poopi wrote: The only good player he beat was MKP, whereas Mvp destroyed the zerg king and 2nd best terran. At the time Terran basically couldn't lose to Zerg. | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:26 Olinim wrote: How was GSL 3 not an impressive run? MC demolished all competition. I think he just meant mvps period of domination was the most impressive. And to be fair, it really was. He absolutely demolished all competition for quite awhile. In the gainward tournament he 3-0ed NesTea in the finals. And in GSL1, he only lost a single map all season (when he went 3-1 against NesTea). This was a period of time where there wasn't a single player that was really capable of beating MVP. | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:36 lunchforthesky wrote: At the time Terran basically couldn't lose to Zerg. Huh? No? You're thinking of GSL1. Zerg's actually teared up GSL2... they had a 60% winrate vs. terran that season. | ||
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Poopi
France13023 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:36 lunchforthesky wrote: At the time Terran basically couldn't lose to Zerg. BoxeR getting 4-0ed by NesTea disagrees. Kyrix who is super bad winning All-Star tournament with his busts disagrees. Oh and people expected IdrA and FruitDealer to not ever lose a ZvT because of supply before rax nerf , but I guess MKP saved terrans.edit : yeah I meant that Mvp dominated the most in between the Big 3, because he dominated better players. If you look at the rankings you'll see that he beat the actual top 4 except MC, whereas Rain, Jinro etc are not top 10 I think... | ||
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Silent331
United States356 Posts
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