NASL followed the rules. Who cares about anything else? Send Xeris a PM if you don't like his tone.
[NASL] aLive Replaces Strelok at Grand Finals - Page 7
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Heraklitus
United States553 Posts
NASL followed the rules. Who cares about anything else? Send Xeris a PM if you don't like his tone. | ||
Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:15 Taf the Ghost wrote: VISAs outside of a ring of countries the USA has "quick" processes with these days can be hard to obtain. However, this is mostly a corruption/bureaucracy issue. Most of the world is, unfortunately, actually like this. My guess why WhiteRa hasn't had an issue is simply because he got his ages ago during the SC:BW days. BratOK missed a solid 4 or 5 tournaments due to the VISA issues. You don't get through them quickly, unfortunately. Actually, US Visa is processed very quickly, only around 3-4 days and it is done. However, the interview appointment queue is atrociously long. I was trying to get an interview queue for my mother and I can only get the appointment 3 months later simply because everyone wants to go to the US . | ||
DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:15 Naniwa wrote: why is he replacing strelok instead of the person who came third in the group? Me. this. sounds like more drama bs mounting up again. | ||
Feijichang
China167 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:17 lunchforthesky wrote: It was in the rules from the start, stop whining kids. Never seen such an ill-informed post. Foreigners of any note (Huk, Haypro, Ret, Moonglade, Sheth) get seeded into Code A by virtue of not being Korean and avoid the hardest competition in Sc2 (Code B). No foreigner has ever made it through Code B. Everyone was invited to NASL, whether they were European, Korean or American they were all invited. In MLG Koreans are invited and avoid the qualifiers just like they do in GSL and given how easilly they destroyed the open bracket (July), and the Championship bracket (MC, MMA, Losira) they've at least proven they were worthy of being seeded. Where as the majority of foreigners in Code A have gone out in the first or second round and even Huk only made it to the Third Round. Not only that but for NASL Season 2 and the Open Tournament for Season 1 Koreans got in by virtue of beating everyone else, again proving that while Koreans may be occasionally invited to stuff when they're not they just crush everyone anyway, which is not the case at all for foreigners. Idra, Jinro, Ret, Haypro, Artosis, TLO, Torch all made it through the Code B qualifiers without ever being given an auto-seed. That would be HuK and Sheth only. Idra and Jinro were seeded Code S by points, and maintained with top 4/8 finishes. The others remade qualifiers once or twice, exception Artosis and Torch. | ||
Gorlin
United States2753 Posts
As far as the "Naniwa issue", I agree with NASL, they had made it clear how they would find replacements. | ||
Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:12 Xeris wrote: First of all: why? My emotional response has absolutely nothing to do with my professionalism, work ethic, or decision making in an official capacity. If Naniwa wants to act like he can do whatever he wants, publicly denounce our league and talk about how he hates playing in it... why should I bother to give him any courtesy? I'll even tell him to his face, and he'd do the same to me. At the end of the day, I didn't sit there and say "fuck that guy I'm gonna ban him from NASL cuz of what he said," our rules were very clear about our policies. Well if you are saying that it wouldn't get in the way of an actual decision then I don't have a problem with it, but I don't see why you would mention it. Regardless, Naniwa was clearly not a candidate based on the rules, so it's not like it matters. It would be great to get an explanation for why the VISA problems weren't handled initially, especially since it came up as an issue earlier. And one thing I feel the need to make clear, I am not in this thread to bash or hate on the NASL. I watched many broadcasts and I will watch the finals, and I think many people are in the same situation as me when they simply want to criticize some of the decisions. I guess this is directed more at people who think people come to this thread just to say how much they hate the NASL. I'm sure some do that, but I'm also sure others are simply critiquing the league, especially so things can hopefully go more smoothly next season. | ||
shindigs
United States4795 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:19 tACorruption wrote: Hearing things like this makes me very disappointed. Your organization is trying to promote the growth of esports yet you have a representative of the league saying things like this. Do you think the commissioner of the NFL would publicly say things like this? You emotional response DOES have something to do with your professionalism. This is one of the most unprofessional things I've yet seen with this league. And don't get me wrong, I'm a NASL supporter. Perhaps that's why this is a little upsetting. YOU'RE KILLING ESPORTS | ||
echO [W]
United States1495 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:21 DyEnasTy wrote: this. sounds like more drama bs mounting up again. Rules stated that should anything happen, the runner up of the open tournament, would be as a backup player. Perhaps it will change in the future. We shall see. | ||
lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:22 Feijichang wrote: Idra, Jinro, Ret, Haypro, Artosis, TLO, Torch all made it through the Code B qualifiers without ever being given an auto-seed. That would be HuK and Sheth only. Idra and Jinro were seeded Code S by points, and maintained with top 4/8 finishes. The others remade qualifiers once or twice, exception Artosis and Torch. TLO, Artosis and Idra get in through the qualifiers for the first ever GSL, before Code B/A ever existed. Ret and Haypro I'm fairly certain were seeded for GSL March into Code A as was Huk and Moonglade. | ||
Terranist
United States2496 Posts
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Phanekim
United States777 Posts
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:25 lunchforthesky wrote: TLO, Artosis and Idra get in through the qualifiers for the first ever GSL, before Code B/A ever existed. Ret and Haypro I'm fairly certain were seeded for GSL March into Code A as was Huk and Moonglade. Also back then the difference in skills between foreigners and koreans were not that big. | ||
Takezou
United States320 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:07 Domination wrote: So let me get this straight. It's only the tournament's job to follow the straight and narrow. However, if a player publically acts like a dick towards the tournament they are just supposed to take it. If you are going to spout that "professionalism!!!!" mantra at least understand that if you actually want that everyone, including the players, have to act professional otherwise it doesn't look, you know, professional. Edit: The absurd amount of NASL hatred in the starcraft community is both amusing and depressing at the same time. FOR ESPORTS, right guys? I never said that it is okay for a player to do it. However, Xeris is representing his organization and should act accordingly. | ||
Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:21 Veldril wrote: Actually, US Visa is processed very quickly, only around 3-4 days and it is done. However, the interview appointment queue is atrociously long. I was trying to get an interview queue for my mother and I can only get the appointment 3 months later simply because everyone wants to go to the US . This is correct. Strelok's interview was scheduled for the 8th actually, which is when the tournament starts T_T and I'm not even sure that it's a guaranteed thing to get accepted once you have your interview | ||
Daniri
387 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8332 Posts
Then again, why should NASL choose Nani if other third place players were better ? (see playoff results) | ||
TW_Covenant
Denmark104 Posts
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:29 Daniri wrote: Don't use emoticons, it's not professional. emoticons, the newest terror that will kill e-sports. | ||
Lord_J
Kenya1085 Posts
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pbjsandwich
United States443 Posts
but your comments towards naniwa was so dumb IMO. | ||
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