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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
July 09 2011 17:35 GMT
#361
On July 03 2011 20:31 FataLe wrote:
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On July 03 2011 01:13 Bobster wrote:
On July 03 2011 01:11 Xeris wrote:
On July 03 2011 01:08 tsuxiit wrote:
That blows. I thought a requirement to entering the tournament was actually having a valid visa?


As we said at the start of the season, Strelok was the 'risk' player we accepted, because his team Mouz assured us that he could get a VISA on time.

Obviously, this is exactly the reason we had this rule, so now all the people complaining why we didn't invite certain players know why >_>! It's obviously very frustrating for us because we put about 30 hours of work preparing material for Strelok and now it's gone to waste, and we might not have time to prepare stuff for aLive. It's really frustrating for Strelok as well because he tried everything he could to get the VISA. Also sucks for DarkForcE for obvious reasons. It just sucks for everyone except aLive, great for him! =D

I was one of the detractors for that decision because I didn't expect these problems to persist in 2011 - looks like your cautious approach was right after all, in hindsight.


Darkforce will take out Alive, no problem.

You're in for a shock.

OR AM I

vindication!
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
July 09 2011 17:35 GMT
#362
On July 10 2011 02:32 zmansman17 wrote:
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On July 06 2011 22:41 Hammurabio wrote:
Just so it is clear, here's what Xeris said about Strelok and his VISA in March:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=203988&currentpage=207#4122

As for NightEnd -- once again: Romania is a "high risk" country, as are Russia, Ukraine, and Poland (just because Romania is in the EU doesn't mean they have a VISA waiver program... which they don't, which makes it automatically more difficult to get a VISA to the US). We didn't want to have multiple "high risk" players in the league due to obvious reasons. What if more than 1 of them qualifies for the finals, can't get a VISA, and don't show up? That ruins our live event completely.

White-Ra has demonstrated an ability to come to the US, BRAT_OK showed us his VISA, as did Strelok. So we were really left with two players (MaNa and NightEnd) from "high risk" countries. We only wanted to select 1; we chose MaNa. As I said multiple times before -- I should have explicitly stated the need for a VISA. I mistakenly thought it was obvious that people outside the US would ask about it considering the contract states that you must guarantee your ability to enter the US. It was my fault for not explicitly stating that they needed a VISA.



So my question for Xeris, how could you have seen Strelok's VISA when he hadn't even applied for it?



Yeah, that's a good question. the logic here doesn't make much sense


Yeah, i'd definitely like that answered as well.
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
July 09 2011 17:36 GMT
#363
Looking like being a replacement worth 50K.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 09 2011 17:38 GMT
#364
On July 10 2011 02:35 Naniwa wrote:
Naniwa about there being repercussions for publically bashing the league you're competing in. Naniwa saying what he did when he thought he was out, and then complaining when he thoughy he had another chance at the money, is also pretty classy.

I dont like to respond to comments because of the large amount of people who despise me for old reasons.. but i will try to clear this up, I simply had no idea whether i was out or not. and my comment was FAR before i was 100% to be out of the playoff. FAR. I will always stand for what i say, and if i make mistakes i will try to make it good again.
My reason for not being in NASL the next season is mainly the defloss against strelok, where i was here the entire time but the NASL still giving me defloss . the NASL realised their mistake and thereafter gave me +-0 As in the match was never played, but strelok got still +2. which changed the entire outcome of the group. I said what i did to make the NASL better themselves, that its not ok just beacuse you have a insane prizepool to treat the players however they please. I never meant anything bad or trashtalk anyone, i simply want all tournaments to improve and make amends for their mistakes. Also i am going to korea and i will focus on a new step in my career there,in which i think would be very bad to include NASL because its played at such late times.

my point being : I dont mean to be hostile towards the NASL. i just want them to improve. might be a bit hazy in the story but i am very tired right now. will correct if there is any mistakes.


It's all good! Good luck in Korea, I hope to see you grow even more as a player!
drdreggor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden207 Posts
July 10 2011 18:56 GMT
#365
On July 10 2011 02:35 Naniwa wrote:
Naniwa about there being repercussions for publically bashing the league you're competing in. Naniwa saying what he did when he thought he was out, and then complaining when he thoughy he had another chance at the money, is also pretty classy.

I dont like to respond to comments because of the large amount of people who despise me for old reasons.. but i will try to clear this up, I simply had no idea whether i was out or not. and my comment was FAR before i was 100% to be out of the playoff. FAR. I will always stand for what i say, and if i make mistakes i will try to make it good again.
My reason for not being in NASL the next season is mainly the defloss against strelok, where i was here the entire time but the NASL still giving me defloss . the NASL realised their mistake and thereafter gave me +-0 As in the match was never played, but strelok got still +2. which changed the entire outcome of the group. I said what i did to make the NASL better themselves, that its not ok just beacuse you have a insane prizepool to treat the players however they please. I never meant anything bad or trashtalk anyone, i simply want all tournaments to improve and make amends for their mistakes. Also i am going to korea and i will focus on a new step in my career there,in which i think would be very bad to include NASL because its played at such late times.

my point being : I dont mean to be hostile towards the NASL. i just want them to improve. might be a bit hazy in the story but i am very tired right now. will correct if there is any mistakes.


Well spoken! =D Much luv to the imba and mannered Naniwa
Wake up Mr. Freeman, wake up and smell the ashes.
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