EPT[NASL] aLive Replaces Strelok at Grand Finals - Page 6
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DocSeverinsen
Germany86 Posts
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DerBeefman
Germany226 Posts
he was so good during the group stages so sad he can't show the same at the finals  | ||
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50bani
Romania480 Posts
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Takezou
United States320 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:40 Xeris wrote: 1) It's been in our rules from the start that the 2nd place of the Open Tournament would have the first backup spot if a player couldn't make it. 2) If aLive had declined the invite, we would have invited the 2nd place finishers in the playoff brackets according to seeding: which would have been: Ace, 3) Either way, I would be hesitant to invite you because you've publicly said "thank god I'm done with NASL" and called us a shitty league. Think your actions have no consequences? 4) White-Ra I think as a B1 VISA, he's proven several times he can get to the USA. BRATOK has B1 VISA too (he showed us a scan of it), which is why we accepted him into the league. Strelok was our risk player, and we were assured he could make it here... it just sucks ~_~ While part 1 and 2 make sense. 3 is very unnecessary and unprofessional. You are representing a supposedly professional organization. You could have easily addressed the issue without those comments. | ||
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VillageBC
322 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:59 Primadog wrote: I'll repost this as many times as necesary because TeamLiquid seems to be full of members with attention span of a goldfish. No need to come across as condescending. I went on the NASL site and didn't see a rules page, and read many posts on this thread, and thought the other people saying Nani should take the spot were basing it off the rules. Just because I didn't happen to see your post doesn't mean I have the attention span of a goldfish. Logic fail. Regardless, I admit I was wrong (though I am still not finding those rules... not that I am doubting they are in fact the rules) but my point still stands that it was hypocritical of them to deny NightEnd solely on his visa issues, when Strelok who should have known it is likely he will be going to the US never got one. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:03 Takezou wrote: While part 1 and 2 make sense. 3 is very unnecessary and unprofessional. You are representing a supposedly professional organization. You could have easily addressed the issue without those comments. I'm not a robot. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
If you are basically saying that you guys do respond emotionally since you are human, the point people are making is that as an organization, you should try to control or overlook those emotions. | ||
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Domination
United States1177 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:03 Takezou wrote: While part 1 and 2 make sense. 3 is very unnecessary and unprofessional. You are representing a supposedly professional organization. You could have easily addressed the issue without those comments. So let me get this straight. It's only the tournament's job to follow the straight and narrow. However, if a player publically acts like a dick towards the tournament they are just supposed to take it. If you are going to spout that "professionalism!!!!" mantra at least understand that if you actually want that everyone, including the players, have to act professional otherwise it doesn't look, you know, professional. Edit: The absurd amount of NASL hatred in the starcraft community is both amusing and depressing at the same time. FOR ESPORTS, right guys? | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
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godemperor
Belgium2043 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:06 Chicane wrote: If you are basically saying that you guys do respond emotionally since you are human, the point people are making is that as an organization, you should try to control or overlook those emotions. In most sports, if player is disrespectful towards an official or the organization, they face consequences (fines/bans). So i don't see any wrong doing in NASL part. | ||
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Feijichang
China167 Posts
However "3) Either way, I would be hesitant to invite you because you've publicly said "thank god I'm done with NASL" and called us a shitty league. Think your actions have no consequences?" Is the reason why NASL is a shitty league. Sticks and stones, words are not actions. You are fucking pathetic. Get a PR guy, seriously. Someone called you a name on the internet, an athlete didn't get in your face while you were trying to observe a game. Naniwa didn't go on a tirade around the internet creating videos and interviews about how the NASL is awful. He certainly didn't create and publish a 15 minute slanderous video about the league because of some minor problem. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
Mousesports, Strelok, Nani are all more valid targets. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:03 Takezou wrote: While part 1 and 2 make sense. 3 is very unnecessary and unprofessional. You are representing a supposedly professional organization. You could have easily addressed the issue without those comments. I would say that if a player from English Premier League publicly says that "EPL is suck and a shitty league", he would be banned for a (very) long time. Professional goes both ways. Players also have to respect organizations as well as organizations have to listen to critiques of players. Clapping with only one hand won't make a sound. | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:06 Chicane wrote: If you are basically saying that you guys do respond emotionally since you are human, the point people are making is that as an organization, you should try to control or overlook those emotions. And you should get the stick out from that sensitive spot and calm down. Seriously guys, if anything Naniwa calling the NASL a shitty tourny is worse than Xeris saying he called it a shitty tournament. And I guarantee that with a little searching you could easily find some major large corporation denying somebody a position or service based on their past interactions. Why do people jump on this shit so much? I seriously don't understand wtf Xeris did that was "bad" and "unprofessional"....... | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:06 Chicane wrote: If you are basically saying that you guys do respond emotionally since you are human, the point people are making is that as an organization, you should try to control or overlook those emotions. First of all: why? My emotional response has absolutely nothing to do with my professionalism, work ethic, or decision making in an official capacity. If Naniwa wants to act like he can do whatever he wants, publicly denounce our league and talk about how he hates playing in it... why should I bother to give him any courtesy? I'll even tell him to his face, and he'd do the same to me. At the end of the day, I didn't sit there and say "fuck that guy I'm gonna ban him from NASL cuz of what he said," our rules were very clear about our policies. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
My guess why WhiteRa hasn't had an issue is simply because he got his ages ago during the SC:BW days. BratOK missed a solid 4 or 5 tournaments due to the VISA issues. You don't get through them quickly, unfortunately. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:29 The_DjiN wrote: Second that. I feel Naniwa deserves the spot alot more than aLive, since he played for nearly 3 months in the NASL and proved in the past that he is a top competitor too. Also I feel that its way too easy for most of the Koreans to get into lucrative tournament spots. Compare that to the qualification process for GSL as a foreigner... Koreans just get invited and can take loads of money home oO Never seen such an ill-informed post. Foreigners of any note (Huk, Haypro, Ret, Moonglade, Sheth) get seeded into Code A by virtue of not being Korean and avoid the hardest competition in Sc2 (Code B). No foreigner has ever made it through Code B. Everyone was invited to NASL, whether they were European, Korean or American they were all invited. In MLG Koreans are invited and avoid the qualifiers just like they do in GSL and given how easilly they destroyed the open bracket (July), and the Championship bracket (MC, MMA, Losira) they've at least proven they were worthy of being seeded. Where as the majority of foreigners in Code A have gone out in the first or second round and even Huk only made it to the Third Round. Not only that but for NASL Season 2 and the Open Tournament for Season 1 Koreans got in by virtue of beating everyone else, again proving that while Koreans may be occasionally invited to stuff when they're not they just crush everyone anyway, which is not the case at all for foreigners. | ||
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tACorruption
27 Posts
On July 03 2011 02:12 Xeris wrote: First of all: why? My emotional response has absolutely nothing to do with my professionalism, work ethic, or decision making in an official capacity. If Naniwa wants to act like he can do whatever he wants, publicly denounce our league and talk about how he hates playing in it... why should I bother to give him any courtesy? I'll even tell him to his face, and he'd do the same to me. At the end of the day, I didn't sit there and say "fuck that guy I'm gonna ban him from NASL cuz of what he said," our rules were very clear about our policies. Hearing things like this makes me very disappointed. Your organization is trying to promote the growth of esports yet you have a representative of the league saying things like this. Do you think the commissioner of the NFL would publicly say things like this? Your emotional response DOES have something to do with your professionalism. This is one of the most unprofessional things I've yet seen with this league. And don't get me wrong, I'm a NASL supporter. Perhaps that's why this is a little upsetting. | ||
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