EPT[NASL] aLive Replaces Strelok at Grand Finals - Page 4
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Agnosthar
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nufcrulz
Singapore934 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:25 Primadog wrote: It's listed in the NASL Open rules that the runner-up is invited as a back-up player, here. NaNiwa had two chances for earning a grand finales spot. He did not played his best in the NASL playoffs and missed Top2 spot partially due to an early season w/o, so he had no one to blame for missing out but himself. i would assume that the rule for the backup player would be in case the open tournament winner couldnt make it to the grand finals | ||
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Archvil3
Denmark989 Posts
Noone has been complaining about it, so I think you can ditch your "anti-Naniwa" theories. He was never in contention for the spot. I would personally have loved to see Naniwa in the grand finals though as he is probally my favorite non-korean player, but rules are rules, and the rule was made before the tournament even began, so there ya go folks. Nothing to see here, move along. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:09 Jakkerr wrote: I have no idea how this works. But why is Alive able to get a visa on a shorter notice then Strelok? Pretty sad for Strelok  hope he does well in season 2.How fast you get your Visa is entirely based upon which country you are coming from and which country you are going to. The more animosity between the two countries, the more bullshit there will be in the process. And the USA Visa offices are notoriously well known for being complete, raving douchebags on a regular basis. I have several friends who have had to deal with immigration woes and some of the stories are completely ridiculous. I feel bad for Strelok, and sorry that my country is doing this to him. | ||
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nufcrulz
Singapore934 Posts
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
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AntiGrav1ty
Germany2310 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:22 Rabbitmaster wrote: I second this! Pretty obvious to take people from the groups instead imo. No it's not. What the hell were the playoffs for then? You can't just give nr3 in the group the slot when he lost in the playoffs to people who legitimately qualified. Stop agreeing just because it's Naniwa who's posting. Also the rules have always been pretty clear on that matter. | ||
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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:25 Papulatus wrote: I feel so bad for Strelok . I seem to remember him say many times that the NASL was his main focus.Poor Strelok I don't really get it. Isn't it his own fault he hadn't applied for visa earlier? Or what do you have to do to get a visa around there. | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:15 GTR wrote: is there a reason why white-ra manages to enter america and not brat_ok/strelok? D: How can someone say no to whitera, he is the friendliest guy on earth lol | ||
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oursblanc
Canada1450 Posts
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:18 DarKFoRcE wrote: fuck, at least its the same race. DARKFORCE FIGHTING You got this, friend. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:33 oursblanc wrote: He probably wouldn't want to pay for a visa before even qualifying. it cant be that expensive for mouz to not pay for it. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:18 zev318 wrote: ^--- quite true, and i guess this will be another reason why u wont be back for season 2. how long do these visas last, like a couple of days? if it lasts for like 6 month+, why cant strelok just get one to have one, so this shit doesnt happen The B1/B2 visa for business or travel last 10 years (maximum) for Thai people. Don't know how long it will be for Ukrainian, though, but I think normally a person could at least get a 12 months visa. Sad for Strelok though but it's hard to go and apply for visa without valid reasons. So I guess he had to wait until he was sure that he qualified for the grand final, so the interviewer would not reject him. Congratulation to Alive too. | ||
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ChickenLips
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Stress
United States980 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:15 GTR wrote: is there a reason why white-ra manages to enter america and not brat_ok/strelok? D: Because White-Ra is everywhere! In all seriousness, I'm disappointed I don't get to see Strelok play in the finals, such an amazing Terran. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:15 Naniwa wrote: why is he replacing strelok instead of the person who came third in the group? Me. 1) It's been in our rules from the start that the 2nd place of the Open Tournament would have the first backup spot if a player couldn't make it. 2) If aLive had declined the invite, we would have invited the 2nd place finishers in the playoff brackets according to seeding: which would have been: Ace, 3) Either way, I would be hesitant to invite you because you've publicly said "thank god I'm done with NASL" and called us a shitty league. Think your actions have no consequences? 4) White-Ra I think as a B1 VISA, he's proven several times he can get to the USA. BRATOK has B1 VISA too (he showed us a scan of it), which is why we accepted him into the league. Strelok was our risk player, and we were assured he could make it here... it just sucks ~_~ | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:37 ChickenLips wrote: I think everyone is waiting for Xeris' response as to why NASL went to the trouble of contacting a Korean team manager for a replacement when the next-in-line should obviously be Nani, since he came 3rd in his group. Seems pretty petty to not invite him because he said "finally done with NASL" before gging out of his most recent NASL game. Sign... People don't even bother to flip back a page. This is because Alive is the NASL Open runner up. It's listed in the NASL Open rules that the runner-up is invited as a back-up player in the grand finals, here. What's at stake The winner of the tournament will receive a $500 travel stipend and a spot at the Grand Finals July 8-10 in Ontario, California. The second place finisher will receive a $500 travel stipend should he/she choose to attend the Grand Finals, and will be listed as a backup player. The Top 8 finishers will qualify for Season 2 of the North American Star League. NaNiwa had two chances for earning a grand finales spot. He did not played his best in the NASL playoffs and missed Top2 spot partially due to an early season w/o, so he had no one to blame for missing out but himself. It's unfortunate that any thread with NASL in the title will inevitably attract the thrones of TL folks whom made it their business to chase every shadow for their latest claim to how NASL has failed (or how it's a pyramid scheme, or how they're amataurish, et al). It's a scary proposition that the same people whom purports to wishing for E-sports to flourish in the west yet actively works to undermine one of the biggest tournament. | ||
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:15 GTR wrote: is there a reason why white-ra manages to enter america and not brat_ok/strelok? D: He probably uses special tactics to get around visa troubles. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 03 2011 01:37 ChickenLips wrote: I think everyone is waiting for Xeris' response as to why NASL went to the trouble of contacting a Korean team manager for a replacement when the next-in-line should obviously be Nani, since he came 3rd in his group. Seems pretty petty to not invite him because he said "finally done with NASL" before gging out of his most recent NASL game. Read the thread. People have posted multiple times that, since before the season even started, it was stated that the runner up of the open tournament would be the back-up player. Nani has no right to complain. | ||
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