EPTso the only person to actually treat you well, who gave you a place to sleep, you "fend off" "attacks?"
god damn, how frigid are you? open up for him!
edit: oh boy, nevergg and shiner make an appearance here too, holy shit! the trifecta!
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annul
United States2841 Posts
so the only person to actually treat you well, who gave you a place to sleep, you "fend off" "attacks?" god damn, how frigid are you? open up for him! edit: oh boy, nevergg and shiner make an appearance here too, holy shit! the trifecta! | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On June 29 2011 14:31 Pandain wrote: Sometimes the outside world is too harsh for Pandain. Sometimes the heat gets to him. Three times he has been forced to find shelter in the car of a complete stranger to get home XD. The world's a nice place, and you can tell if someone is a bit creepy. PANDAIN IS CLAIMING DT AND KNOWS A BUS DRIVER/BODYGUARD/MEDIC | ||
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7mk
Germany10156 Posts
On June 30 2011 08:40 travis wrote: I find you to be pretty damn sexist in this thread. You decided ahead of time what it meant should any girls reply, and then view their replies through this lense. I have read a lot of haemonculus' posts and have the utmost respect for her and it's just insulting the way you and jibba replied to her and are still going on about it. if her or nevergg were ever terrified of showing they are females it'd be because of stupid replies like yours. just be clear, I agree that lots of stereotypes are generally correct, including the one you post about here. what irks me is that you arbitrarily apply to it to the females who reply in this thread with no basis whatsoever and it's just insulting. it's exactly what sexism is. I somewhat agree. Its kinda ridiculous to single out females replying here when their opinions are the same as those of many others in this thread. Actually I understand with NeverGG because she has often expressed her problems with girls who don't truly contribute to this community, but haemonculus? come on... Nothing wrong with hazelnuts comments either so really I think its sad to talk about "females getting up in arms" Also I saw haemonculus on stream several times, thats not exactly "hiding your gender" but I believe she stopped because of a mass of idiotic comments about her gender. On June 30 2011 04:12 Lysenko wrote: Wasn't really my point. It would be unfair to compare her accomplishments to those of someone 10 years her senior. Point was she's an incredibly smart young engineer with potential and deserves not to be treated like a groupie or called names in her own blog comments. I think smart people especially should be called out when they do something stupid because those should know better. Not that I really disagree or agree about the criticism towards riku, I dont really care. baller wins thread btw | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On June 30 2011 18:46 7mk wrote: I think smart people especially should be called out when they do something stupid Sure. I wasn't posting about the people criticizing her hitchhiking. That said, this is a post about something that happened a few years ago, so I'm sure she'd probably plan better today. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
That's not trolling, that doesn't even come close :\ and for someone who spends time on 4chan im semi disappointed | ||
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7mk
Germany10156 Posts
On June 30 2011 19:38 Lysenko wrote: Sure. I wasn't posting about the people criticizing her hitchhiking. That said, this is a post about something that happened a few years ago, so I'm sure she'd probably plan better today. So what exactly is your point? that she in general shouldnt be criticized because shes smart? People dont like her blogs for what they are and for how frequently she posts them. I'm not saying I agree, (in fact I dont think theres anything too wrong with her blogs) but that has just nothing to do with how well she does academically lol. I don't know, I was brought up to believe that people who are able to achieve something are to be taken seriously, but the argument seems to be that because Riku is a woman, she shouldn't be That is such a damn ridiculous thing to say. No one here is even close to carrying that as his argument. also who are those self-absorbed males who make shitty blogs all the time? I'm somewhat curious | ||
SirJolt
the Dagon Knight4000 Posts
On June 30 2011 20:18 7mk wrote: also who are those self-absorbed males who make shitty blogs all the time? I'm somewhat curious Right here broski. You ever read my blog? It's the SirJolt masturbatory hour. I make no apologies. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 30 2011 08:40 travis wrote: Uh... perhaps you should look up what sexism actually is. I find you to be pretty damn sexist in this thread. You decided ahead of time what it meant should any girls reply, and then view their replies through this lense. I have read a lot of haemonculus' posts and have the utmost respect for her and it's just insulting the way you and jibba replied to her and are still going on about it. if her or nevergg were ever terrified of showing they are females it'd be because of stupid replies like yours. just be clear, I agree that lots of stereotypes are generally correct, including the one you post about here. what irks me is that you arbitrarily apply to it to the females who reply in this thread with no basis whatsoever and it's just insulting. it's exactly what sexism is. If you don't think Haemonculus has tried to hide her gender on these forums, then you're completely blind. Perhaps she had good reason to, but you can see how judgmental she became about Riku's story. Her reply was a defense of Nevergg's continually silly posts and never once did she ask for details such as whether Riku actually had things to defend herself or if she was dressed like that the entire weekend. She jumped straight on the "you should've been raped for doing that" bandwagon. And that's what the cries of "attention whore" are about. People are trying to be themselves and if they happen to be female, we decry them for that. Either they dress racy so they're asking to be raped or they talk about themselves so they deserve to be mocked. These are all just rationalized justifications to demean someone for openly being feminine. Please. Rekrul is 100x the attention whore Riku is and you guys eat him up like candy. And this is the Blogs section, who cares if people talk about themselves? The mods can do our best to ban the "stay in the kitchen" crap but there's still an enormous double standard on this site, largely held by veterans, of how people, and specifically girls, are supposed to act on the internet. It would behoove all of us, myself included, to give it a rest and let people be themselves. Riku's a good writer and she's not detracting from the site in any way. She doesn't flame anyone else and she doesn't post crappy 1 liners or complain about balance or call others a waste of life. She tells well written stories, and if she had never posted her Cosplay pictures, the criticism she receives would be a fraction of what it currently is. I'm not a white knight. I'm a white motherfucking catapult. Come at me, bro. | ||
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Zidane
United States1684 Posts
She goes out of her way to post blogs where she can include pictures. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
Judgmental about her story? Absolutely. You don't get into cars with strange older men. I'd give that advice to any woman. Thinking you can physically "kick the butt" of a full grown man? That's an absurd delusion, and one again that I'd try to dissuade anyone from. | ||
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Kukaracha
France1954 Posts
I played Reppelz, a free MMORPG when I was a bit younger, for a short period of time. At first, people thought I was a female, given my nick at the time. They would act friendly and try to give me random stuff, follow me and whatnot. Then I'd say, "Hey, you know I'm a dude right?" And they'd leave. So it seems that those seeking some sort of equality are those hiding the fact that they are females, until the gamers crowd looses some testosterone levels. Those who don't mind the extra attention they receive tend to go as far as providing proof, and grounds for fantasies. The problem is that Riku's only quality is that she... is a female. And pretty. Nothing more. This was just some random story, somewhat fun, but it's been 7 pages already. She's smart? NOW you're being sexist. There are many smart people on TL. Is it particularly awesome when a girl is smart? How are her stories particularly well written? There is some sort of jealousy coming from girls who conceal theur gender I guess, but it's the same kind of jealousy you get when you try to respect the environment and ride a bike when a friend passes by, speeding in his car. You're jealous and full of disapproval. Thus the "spicy" reaction. And it becomes a debate because it goes beyond just this thread, it's not even about Riku, but about men and women relationships in particular environments such as the Net in general or gaming circles. It's also a changing situation and should be thought about. "Internet whores" are an interesting and IMO revealing phenomenon that cannot be denied. Even the name, "whores", indicates pretty well where we stand right now. Thus my respect and admiration for girls who "conceal" their gender on the net, genuinly looking for more equality. | ||
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MisterD
Germany1338 Posts
On June 30 2011 09:45 Riku wrote: I generally try not to complain about the drama and name calling, but it's getting rather ridiculous. you are aware that you can ban people in your own blog? It's not a pretty measure, and i don't know if it's actually the same people that start this debate every time, but maybe it could help. anyhow, you show some good stamina, still posting although this keeps happening, complements on that  | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 30 2011 18:46 7mk wrote: I think smart people should be called out when they do something stupid because they should know better. There is a difference between street smarts and book smarts. Let's take it one step further. To paraphrase Socrates, "I know nothing." We all do silly things, especially when we're young. As long as you learn from it and don't make the same mistakes twice. Good. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36362 Posts
On July 01 2011 01:18 StarStruck wrote: There is a difference between street smarts and book smarts. Let's take it one step further. To paraphrase Socrates, "I know nothing." We all do silly things, especially when we're young. As long as you learn from it and don't make the same mistakes twice. Good. yeah some people are just streets ahead | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On June 30 2011 21:23 Kukaracha wrote: The problem is that Riku's only quality is that she... is a female. And pretty. Nothing more. This was just some random story, somewhat fun, but it's been 7 pages already. She's smart? NOW you're being sexist. There are many smart people on TL. Is it particularly awesome when a girl is smart? Oh, please. My point is that she deserves the same type of acceptance that we'd give a 17-year-old guy who comes to the blog section to post a whiny, involved story about how some girl smiled at him and then kneed him in the groin when he asked for a date and what should he do? That kind of thing gets 5 to 10 pages of gentle sympathy and encouragement, for one reason only, because the predominantly male readers of this site empathize with his post. (And yeah, I saw Chill's post, and I agree. That's not the point, because that kind of post usually gets a sympathetic reaction from most people.) My point is that people are so quick to call Riku misogynistic names like "attention whore" (in her own damn blog thread!) that they're not even listening to what she's saying, and I think it's disgusting behavior. She's a human being with a hell of a lot going on other than showing up in skimpy cosplay costumes every now and then at a con. If that's what she chooses to do with a portion of her spare time, so what? Why is it worth posting hostile rants in her blog if she talks about it? It's not like she hasn't posted about the other stuff, too. In fact, who cares if she posts every day? Who cares if not all of her posts are equally riveting? (Although, to be honest, it's only when she posts an interesting story that she gets this kind of hate from people.) I've posted pictures of myself in my blog and nobody thinks twice about it, but Riku's presumed to be doing it to manipulate people because certain guys who don't get out much felt a little tingle in their private spot when they looked at her pictures. News flash: that's not her problem. Grow up and get over it. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On July 01 2011 01:44 Lysenko wrote: Oh, please. My point is that she deserves the same type of acceptance that we'd give a 17-year-old guy who comes to the blog section to post a whiny, involved story about how some girl smiled at him and then kneed him in the groin when he asked for a date and what should he do? That kind of thing gets 5 to 10 pages of gentle sympathy and encouragement, for one reason only, because the predominantly male readers of this site empathize with his post. (And yeah, I saw Chill's post, and I agree. That's not the point, because that kind of post usually gets a sympathetic reaction from most people.) My point is that people are so quick to call Riku misogynistic names like "attention whore" (in her own damn blog thread!) that they're not even listening to what she's saying, and I think it's disgusting behavior. She's a human being with a hell of a lot going on other than showing up in skimpy cosplay costumes every now and then at a con. If that's what she chooses to do with a portion of her spare time, so what? Why is it worth posting hostile rants in her blog if she talks about it? It's not like she hasn't posted about the other stuff, too. In fact, who cares if she posts every day? Who cares if not all of her posts are equally riveting? (Although, to be honest, it's only when she posts an interesting story that she gets this kind of hate from people.) I've posted pictures of myself in my blog and nobody thinks twice about it, but Riku's presumed to be doing it to manipulate people because certain guys who don't get out much felt a little tingle in their private spot when they looked at her pictures. News flash: that's not her problem. Grow up and get over it. What where, I need pix preferrably not CG'd. Also, I am a paladin how about some kitty cleave :3 :3 :3 m^_^M +7619 t^_^t3 -200000 X.x M^_^m +7721 | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22245 Posts
On June 30 2011 08:40 travis wrote: I find you to be pretty damn sexist in this thread. You decided ahead of time what it meant should any girls reply, and then view their replies through this lense. Not at all; I didn't decide 'ahead of time' since NeverGG had already posted her first response, I just anticipated more of it (and again, I wasn't wrong). And I'm not sure how anticipating this reaction was sexist? I'm basing it on extensive personal experience.  I have read a lot of haemonculus' posts and have the utmost respect for her and it's just insulting the way you and jibba replied to her and are still going on about it. if her or nevergg were ever terrified of showing they are females it'd be because of stupid replies like yours. I have complete respect for haemonculus as well, and the way she conducts herself here and irl. That doesn't mean however that I don't think there was a bit of passive-aggressiveness to her post, and IMO if the OP wasn't riku, she probably wouldn't even have posted. Again, I'm basing my perceptions on personal experience of how females often judge other females. Stereotyping? A bit, sure. I'm not naive enough to think every female is like that (just take hazelynut's reply for example, I'm not getting that vibe at all from her). Sexist? Not at all. Also, I think you're hanging onto that "terrified of showing they are females" line a bit too much. I've already said I don't think anyone truly believes that. just be clear, I agree that lots of stereotypes are generally correct, including the one you post about here. what irks me is that you arbitrarily apply to it to the females who reply in this thread with no basis whatsoever and it's just insulting. it's exactly what sexism is. Again, as I said above: I apply it when I see it. I got that vibe from NeverGG's and haemonculus's posts. I did not get it from hazelynut's post. Therefore I can apply the stereotype that I've personally witnessed hundreds of times IRL to this situation to those two, but not hazelynut. I fail to see where I'm making an error by "applying a stereotype" AFTER they have already lived up to it?!? For the record, I do also agree with the above poster that mentioned riku goes out of her way to post blogs that can include pictures of herself in it. I can also discuss THAT stereotype if you'd want as well. Personally, I don't really care if she does or not. It's not hurting anything if she is going that route for some extra attention, and if people have an issue with it they can simply ignore it. In fact, the #1 way to 'hurt' the cause of someone who is seeking attention is to ignore them. Not quite sure why people in this thread who are complaining about it haven't figured that out yet. But since they haven't, I will sit back and enjoy the drama.  | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On July 01 2011 01:55 EvilTeletubby wrote: For the record, I do also agree with the above poster that mentioned riku goes out of her way to post blogs that can include pictures of herself in it. Riku probably would not post nearly as many pictures of herself if people didn't accuse her of being a guy posing as a girl when she doesn't. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22245 Posts
On July 01 2011 02:00 Lysenko wrote: Riku probably would not post nearly as many pictures of herself if people didn't accuse her of being a guy posing as a girl when she doesn't. ... Nah, I don't buy that. I truly believe she posts them because she is looking for the comments/attention it brings. Again, not that it is necessarily a bad thing, I really don't care. It's just funny seeing people get upset over it. | ||
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Bambipwnsu
Canada698 Posts
On July 01 2011 02:00 Lysenko wrote: Riku probably would not post nearly as many pictures of herself if people didn't accuse her of being a guy posing as a girl when she doesn't. Its not surprising though, since cosplay seems to be her thing...you know...costumes and all that. How else would she show that off? Either way, i'm not one to complain here  | ||
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