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Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
February 13 2013 23:31 GMT
#1
Hi everyone,

This afternoon, we will be making the balance change listed below. This will not require that we bring down the beta service. Thanks again for all the great feedback you've provided while testing Heart of the Swarm. We hope to see you testing these changes and sharing your input soon!

Terran

Hellbat
-The cargo space required to transport a Hellbat has been increased from 2 to 4.


http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7922982350
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awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
February 13 2013 23:32 GMT
#2
Hellbat
-The cargo space required to transport a Hellbat has been increased from 2 to 4.


Well, it can't hurt.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
February 13 2013 23:33 GMT
#3
I don't understand so, your supply will go up and down whenever hellions change from hellions to hellbats?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 13 2013 23:34 GMT
#4
We had fun while it lasted ;D
MarineKing as well.
DeathSquire36
Profile Joined June 2011
United States167 Posts
February 13 2013 23:35 GMT
#5
On February 14 2013 08:33 GGzerG wrote:
I don't understand so, your supply will go up and down whenever hellions change from hellions to hellbats?

No, it means you can only fit 2 hellbats in a medivac.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 23:37:17
February 13 2013 23:35 GMT
#6
Nvm saw post above me glad it can only hold 2 now.
When I think of something else, something will go here
norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
February 13 2013 23:35 GMT
#7
On February 14 2013 08:33 GGzerG wrote:
I don't understand so, your supply will go up and down whenever hellions change from hellions to hellbats?


cargo space is how much room a unit takes up on a medivac. It has nothing to do with supply.
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 13 2013 23:35 GMT
#8
On February 14 2013 08:33 GGzerG wrote:
I don't understand so, your supply will go up and down whenever hellions change from hellions to hellbats?


Supply won't change.
Terran & Potato Salad.
D4V3Z02
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany693 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 23:38:00
February 13 2013 23:36 GMT
#9
On February 14 2013 08:33 GGzerG wrote:
I don't understand so, your supply will go up and down whenever hellions change from hellions to hellbats?


With cargo space is the transport size of the unit meant. You can now only transport 2 Hellbats in a medivac.
http://www.twitch.tv/d4v3z02 all your base are belong to overlord
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
February 13 2013 23:38 GMT
#10
Well that was fast.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
February 13 2013 23:38 GMT
#11
There was already precedent in SC2 for a unit taking up more cargo space than supply--Colossi take up an entire warp prism but just 6 supply.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
ManicMarine
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia409 Posts
February 13 2013 23:38 GMT
#12
Thank god, this was a while coming. Props to blizz.
Manic by name, Manic by nature.
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
February 13 2013 23:39 GMT
#13
Think of it like this - a thor and an ultra both fill 8 slots in an overlord/a medivac, but are only 6 supply. Same with a tank - medivac can hold 2 tanks, even though tanks are only 3 supply.

Anyway, I think this is a good change.
Vinand
Profile Joined September 2012
Netherlands159 Posts
February 13 2013 23:39 GMT
#14
This only is not enough... right at this moment, hellbats are waaayyy too powerful for the 100 minerals that they cost...
TheLunatic
Profile Joined February 2011
309 Posts
February 13 2013 23:39 GMT
#15
I liked to see gas open phoenix catch the drop boom your 500/100 ahead, so much for that sequence of events.....
ZerGGling
Profile Joined November 2012
26 Posts
February 13 2013 23:41 GMT
#16
but u still can transport 4 hellions and morph them into hellbats?
Who the hell do you think I am?!; Go beyond the impossible and kick reason to the curb! (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann)
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 13 2013 23:42 GMT
#17
Well it's a start I guess. At least they reacted fast and I like they don't want to nerf it until it becomes another useless unit.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
February 13 2013 23:42 GMT
#18
So 4 hellions can still fit into the medivac? So there could still technically be 4 hellbats from one medivac, but it will take time to transform. Also it won't be as easy to pick up all the hellbats.

Is this correct?
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 23:43:43
February 13 2013 23:42 GMT
#19
On February 14 2013 08:41 ZerGGling wrote:
but u still can transport 4 hellions and morph them into hellbats?


Yes. So you have a lot more time to react.


So 4 hellions can still fit into the medivac? So there could still technically be 4 hellbats from one medivac, but it will take time to transform. Also it won't be as easy to pick up all the hellbats.

Is this correct?


Yes.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 13 2013 23:43 GMT
#20
On February 14 2013 08:41 ZerGGling wrote:
but u still can transport 4 hellions and morph them into hellbats?

i think so
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