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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 00:04:15
October 29 2012 00:01 GMT
#1
Looking at TLPD, the active roster is at 5, with (T)BaBy (Z)Jaedong (P)Jaehoon (Z)Ryul2 (Z)Sang (Terminator), B-teamers not included. (P)Tyson (Bridge), (Z)by.hero and (P)Movie have all retired and were streaming BW on Afreeca recently. Obviously (T)Sea has joined Liquid. No word of a sponsor after the end of hybrid Proleague, either. I believe Kespa said they won't go with 7 teams for the 2012-2013 Proleague (November?) since Air Force ACE is no longer accepting new players...I can't see them going down to 6 either.

Anyone with an ear to the ground in Korea know what's up? This also extends to all of Proleague. Some have speculated LG-IM will join due to their good sponsors and star power.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
October 29 2012 00:05 GMT
#2
with GSTL losing quite a few teams ( TL,oGs a while ago, SlayerS and Zenex they were in GSTL before becoming startale right) it would be awesome to see the Kaspa team playing against the eSF teams.

It may be hard due to Kespa and eSF relationship :/
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Dakure
Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
October 29 2012 00:09 GMT
#3
I can definitely see IM joining and it still being an even playing field. Due to the PL style (not being a king of the hill format), Seed and Mvp won't be able to carry their team to victory every time IM is up to play. IM does have a deep roster, but we've seen that Flash and Roro can beat Seed convincingly, and while these two are among the best Kespa players, I think this hints at weaker Kespa pros being able to take down weaker IM members such as Losira, Yonghwa, and Nestea.
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
October 29 2012 00:09 GMT
#4
Starcraft 2 in Korea is struggling cause of LoL, so they don't get any sponsors. They also lost 1st place in PL in last round and ended up as 3rd (had been 2nd if Jaehoon didn't stay too long in game after gg -.- lol.) which was a really huge demotivation for them. I guess this is one of the main thing for not getting a sponsor after the PL, if they had been in final someone would had sponsored them imo.
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Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
October 29 2012 00:11 GMT
#5
On October 29 2012 09:09 Dakure wrote:
I can definitely see IM joining and it still being an even playing field. Due to the PL style (not being a king of the hill format), Seed and Mvp won't be able to carry their team to victory every time IM is up to play. IM does have a deep roster, but we've seen that Flash and Roro can beat Seed convincingly, and while these two are among the best Kespa players, I think this hints at weaker Kespa pros being able to take down weaker IM members such as Losira, Yonghwa, and Nestea.


Even field? Any of the Top 4 GSTL teams have a very strong chance at wining the PL. LG-IM or StarTale would have an easy road to victory to be honest.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 29 2012 00:17 GMT
#6
Baby, JD and Terminator are enough to carry a team through any team League without getting completely destroyed (especially JD has experience with that) to give Jaehoon and the B teamers time to catch up.

Should Kespa and ESF come to a fair agreement both sides will profit massively and team 8 might have a future and find a sponsor. A team League broadcasted Koreawide via OGN and internationally via GOM is certainly still worth a lot for a sponsor. Chances are not bad because with the Slayer's disaster on ESF side and the problems Kespa has both sides can't dick around too much anymore. Though they obviously fight behind the curtains atm because they fucking hate each other or we would have heard from them already. Like I explained here both sides would profit massively from the other.

So all we can do is wait and see if the self destruction of ESF and Kespa will continue or if they can man up and come to an agreement. Overall I think it looks bad for Team 8 but not hopeless.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 00:30:52
October 29 2012 00:17 GMT
#7
Is there more solid confirmation on the B-teamers retiring other than streaming BW on Afreeca? iirc, Sang mentioned in his GSL Code A Ro48 interviews that his team was on break, so maybe the BW streaming happened during then, though I do not know how much they ended up streaming. His Ro32 interview didn't really have much juicy information, however.
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Ornithorynquez
Profile Joined August 2009
430 Posts
October 29 2012 00:23 GMT
#8
I was asking myself the same question, even if i didn't knew that Tyson, hero and Movie retired. For obvious reasons i can not see them starting the proleague with only 5 players (just imagine how other teams will snipe them), so i guess they'll have to recruit some people, but do they have enought money ?

Correct me if I'm wrong but, i think they can't buy players from ESF teams, so best case scenario they'll get one or two cheap motivated B-Teamer from another KeSPA team, whom will be guaranteed to play some televised games.

I believe Kespa said they won't go with 7 teams for the 2012-2013 Proleague

By the way where did you saw that ? Any sources ?

I'd really love some new about the next proleague, i really cant see them running it with only 6 or 7 teams.. I hope ESF and KeSPA will manage to set up a proper team league together, even if i don't see GomTV giving up the GSTL.
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Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
October 29 2012 00:30 GMT
#9
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8189 Posts
October 29 2012 00:35 GMT
#10
Esf v Kespa team league would be VERY exciting for me. Team play is esports at it's finest imo.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 00:37:52
October 29 2012 00:37 GMT
#11
Really hope the two league combine like the NFL,would be a huge boost to sc2 in Korea with the drama and potential rivalries.
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
October 29 2012 00:38 GMT
#12
On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol.

I don't know, I really can't see any kespa team beating a lineup of Life, Parting, Squirtle, and Curious.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 29 2012 00:39 GMT
#13
On October 29 2012 09:38 Walnuts wrote:
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On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol.

I don't know, I really can't see any kespa team beating a lineup of Life, Parting, Squirtle, and Curious.

Does STX have enough Soul to beat Parting?

My apologies to whoever I stole this joke from.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 29 2012 00:40 GMT
#14
On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol.


Eh, KeSPA didn't do so hot in Code A and especially Up/Downs, which was a Bo1. I think teams with four solid players like ST, TSL, LG-IM, Prime, FXO, and MVP could do well.
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ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-29 01:17:58
October 29 2012 01:17 GMT
#15
No worry. Team 8 is going to win next proleague.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 29 2012 01:22 GMT
#16
when is the next proleague?
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
October 29 2012 01:23 GMT
#17
Why would big team like IM and ST join KeSPA? I totally dont understand. It's just like give up your own right and position to the KeSPA and you will get ... more restriction in return? That didnt make any sense. If you were a free contractor with good and sustainable income, why would you care to join a company who have their own financial trouble and letting someone be you boss so you can work for him? Just for a decent title like I worked in Nokia? LOL.
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
October 29 2012 01:24 GMT
#18
Id say eSF teams should be allowed to join pro league to fill in for the closed teams. Like what would be the harm?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 29 2012 01:24 GMT
#19
On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol.

There's probably a maximum of 1-2 KeSPA players in each KeSPA team right now who could reliably take sets from the top ESF pros, but isn't enough to win for PL format.
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Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
October 29 2012 01:32 GMT
#20
On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol.


Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving.
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