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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
What I think is gonna happne is probably Stars is going to absorb Team 8 or the other way around, and we're left with 6 KeSPA teams. Dunno about who's gonna sponsor Stars/8, probably KeSPA again if they can't find a sponsor. On October 29 2012 09:09 mjuuy wrote: Starcraft 2 in Korea is struggling cause of LoL, so they don't get any sponsors. They also lost 1st place in PL in last round and ended up as 3rd (had been 2nd if Jaehoon didn't stay too long in game after gg -.- lol.) which was a really huge demotivation for them. I guess this is one of the main thing for not getting a sponsor after the PL, if they had been in final someone would had sponsored them imo. SC2 would be struggling regardless of LoL | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
 The problem with getting ESF teams to join Proleague is that if you only take a select few of them there is going to be jealousy, playing in PL brings air time on TV and that brings sponsors to your team. Sure IM and Startale could probably join but would that be fair to the other ESF teams? we'll see what happens. | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote: Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. Although I don't believe that Kespa teams would dominate, to say that they can't catch up even with current eSF players improving is wrong. Kespa players are pros too and I expect an EVEN playing field within the next year. What I'm saying is Kespa pros have the talent to catch-up and already have good mechanics, in the first place, to boot. I think Kespa and eSF would do well to work out some sort of merger. With the popularity of MOBA games, in order for SC2 to thrive, Kespa and eSF would benefit from joint advertising and marketing as well as tournament scheduling for their individual tourneys and an even sicker team league season. Yes, the hype is indeed over but remember that once skill reaches higher levels, improvement slows down, if Kespa maintains their practice regimen they can still catch up with the generally better eSF teams. Right now, Kespa isn't there yet but they CAN get there. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On October 29 2012 10:24 FlukyS wrote: Id say eSF teams should be allowed to join pro league to fill in for the closed teams. Like what would be the harm? because 1, possibly 2 teams would be going against eSF, which I dont think any of them would ever do. Maybe Fnatic would join PL, but they dont have any high profile players. None of the eSF teams would leave eSF and go to PL. | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On October 29 2012 11:02 silent_owl wrote: I think Kespa and eSF would do well to work out some sort of merger. lol. that'd be the day. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On October 29 2012 11:12 TommyP wrote: because 1, possibly 2 teams would be going against eSF, which I dont think any of them would ever do. Maybe Fnatic would join PL, but they dont have any high profile players. None of the eSF teams would leave eSF and go to PL. PL is organised by KeSPA, but do you have to be part of KeSPA to play in PL? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 29 2012 11:12 TommyP wrote: because 1, possibly 2 teams would be going against eSF, which I dont think any of them would ever do. Maybe Fnatic would join PL, but they dont have any high profile players. None of the eSF teams would leave eSF and go to PL. I think given the chance some of them might, if it brings them big sponsors and their players significant salaries. I think a lot of ESF players will end up retiring if they can't make it big in the next months since they are getting paid jack shit to do the same thing as kespa players. Kespa salaries are also going to go down across the board compared to 2010 BW I'm sure, decreased interest compared to LoL and all. | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
That'd be the day indeed, it isn't wrong to hope. Lol. | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
It'd be awesome to have Proleague with all the eSF/Kespa teams and GOM in charge of broadcasting it internationally but I'm pretty sure such thing will never happen. | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
On October 29 2012 11:16 Dodgin wrote: I think given the chance some of them might, if it brings them big sponsors and their players significant salaries. I think a lot of ESF players will end up retiring if they can't make it big in the next months since they are getting paid jack shit to do the same thing as kespa players. Kespa salaries are also going to go down across the board compared to 2010 BW I'm sure, decreased interest compared to LoL and all. Sadly, I think this is true as well. I think SC2 will become somewhat like WC3 in terms of its status as an e-sport. It will be nowhere near as lucrative as BW was in Korea but will continue to have a niche globally. In Korea, enough players will continue to pursue SC2 but I wouldn't expect any of them to make as much money as they used to in BW. Still, SC2 will survive there as well and, if Moon was any indication back in WC3's heyday, Koreans will still "own white dudes", just not as hard as before. Foreigners can still catch up though if they're willing to make structured practice environments with dedicated coaching staff. Anyway, going back to topic, with the financial future of SC2 not looking bright (to most people) I think Kespa and eSF have to learn to share the ball not just among themselves but with the rest of the global community. Kespa is doing well to partner with MLG, but partnerships with DH and others would be great for the Korean SC2 community. As is, Korean SC2 is the holy grail of skill but it doesn't seem like it's the holy grail for the players' pockets. Kespa and eSF have to go where the money is and they're gonna have to work together as well. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
It'd be like sc:bw all over again when there was 12 teams.. KT, SKT, T8/Stars, STX, CJ + LG-IM, Startale/Zenex, MVP, Prime, TSL, and something like EG/TL | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
How many teams did BW have during its peak compared to how many we have atm. | ||
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Northern_iight
Canada363 Posts
Hopefully kespa will invite other teams into PL. Don't know the possibility of that. Possible that fnatic or EG join PL? Maybe even FXO leaving eSF and heading over to kespa. O.o | ||
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote: Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. lol what about Hyvaa? He recently 4-1ed Rain and he's 4-5 according to TLPD. So that alone counters your "hype" argument. There are probably a lot more top notch Kespa players out there that you just don't know about yet because they haven't been brought to light. In due time, my friend. | ||
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insanet
Peru439 Posts
On October 29 2012 11:44 Laryleprakon wrote: It would be amazing to see every Korean team stay alive and profitable atm I think there are just to many. How many teams did BW have during its peak compared to how many we have atm. In its Peak, 11 teams + 1 team (ACE) sponsored by the military (Airforce). | ||
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silent_owl
Philippines3098 Posts
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Patate
Canada441 Posts
On October 29 2012 11:58 silent_owl wrote: In short, the way things are now, we will see teams disband. It's only a question of who and when. This To tell you what I think will happen, KESPA teams will lose sponsors ( have you seen the last OSL? pathetic), and their A-team players will get not even 10% of their actual salary, so will retire. Kespa will be dead in a few years.. right now the state of SC2 can only allow korean teams that don't really pay their players. | ||
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