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Germany5113 Posts
On October 29 2012 13:06 figq wrote:
Technically, the team has not disbanded yet, and theoretically there could be a bunch of major sponsors around the corner who would jump on it so that Jaedong wears their t-shirt. And if that happens, the team would afford to buy new / other players.
This whole tendency to dig the grave before someone is dead is becoming annoying. If the team disbands, we'll hear about it, don't worry.
Exactly. Amen.
And I'm sure this topic (too few teams, sponsorships) is being addressed at the weekly talks in Korea between Blizzard, KeSPA, OGN, eSF, and GOM. They'll come up with a solution in time. The sky isn't falling yet.
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On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol.
StarTale have Bomber, Curious, Life, Squirtle, Parting
IM has 10 GSL Wins among their players (Counting MC as a GSTL player for IM)
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OMG an ESF vs. Kespa Team League could have home and away games at the GSL and OSL studios respectively <3
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On October 29 2012 13:38 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. StarTale have Bomber, Curious, Life, Squirtle, Parting IM has 10 GSL Wins among their players (Counting MC as a GSTL player for IM)
as well as four gsl silvers
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On October 29 2012 13:45 Chriscras wrote:
OMG an ESF vs. Kespa Team League could have home and away games at the GSL and OSL studios respectively <3
I think this would actually be pretty awesome and potentially give both GOM and OGN a lot of views, which would be quite good for the scene. Wonder if they've thought of that already and can't do it, or are discussing it. Maybe someone can suggest it to them if they haven't had the idea yet (doubtful since both are big companies and probably smart.)
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On October 29 2012 13:45 Chriscras wrote:
OMG an ESF vs. Kespa Team League could have home and away games at the GSL and OSL studios respectively <3
i didn't really think to much of the league really, since i wasn't around in BW but that idea so good, given me hype on how cool that could be. The more i think about it, the more i want the kespa vs esf.
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I predict jaedong retiring BW and joining EG
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On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving.
Yes, hype is over, because it is already confirmed.
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On October 29 2012 14:10 ZerglingTwins wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. Yes, hype is over, because it is already confirmed.
It's confirmed that a small minority of the KESPA players are top tier at SC2, just like with ESF players? You're right, it is.
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Nazgul, if you're listening just buy Team 8 and make their sponsors PokerStrategy or something.
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On October 29 2012 14:10 ZerglingTwins wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. Yes, hype is over, because it is already confirmed.
Confirmed??
I wonder what so called TBLS are doing right now.. hmm.................
Not to even mention that none of the kespa players made it out of up&down matches.
So, how are those "real talents" doing ??
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On October 29 2012 14:28 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 14:10 ZerglingTwins wrote:On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. Yes, hype is over, because it is already confirmed. Confirmed?? I wonder what so called TBLS are doing right now.. hmm................. Not to even mention that none of the kespa players made it out of up&down matches. So, how are those "real talents" doing ??
If GSL gave 16 seeds in code S to KeSPA players last season like OSL did, you will see a KeSPA player take the gold.
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On October 29 2012 14:28 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 14:10 ZerglingTwins wrote:On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. Yes, hype is over, because it is already confirmed. Confirmed?? I wonder what so called TBLS are doing right now.. hmm................. Not to even mention that none of the kespa players made it out of up&down matches. So, how are those "real talents" doing ??
All of the KeSPA players are still improving way faster than basically all of the eSF players. A few KeSPA players have already caught up to or surpassed all the eSF players. In 6 months they will have improved beyond that.
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On October 29 2012 11:13 a176 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 11:02 silent_owl wrote:
I think Kespa and eSF would do well to work out some sort of merger. lol. that'd be the day.
With the dwindling number of teams in the Korean SC2 scene, it will have to happen unless the scene could die or be massively overshadowed by LoL.
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On October 29 2012 14:36 Incanus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 14:28 mongmong wrote:On October 29 2012 14:10 ZerglingTwins wrote:On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. Yes, hype is over, because it is already confirmed. Confirmed?? I wonder what so called TBLS are doing right now.. hmm................. Not to even mention that none of the kespa players made it out of up&down matches. So, how are those "real talents" doing ?? All of the KeSPA players are still improving way faster than basically all of the eSF players. A few KeSPA players have already caught up to or surpassed all the eSF players. In 6 months they will have improved beyond that.
All of the kespa players have improved that much because they had all the vods, replays
and coaches. Also you dont really seem to understand the concept of diminishing returns.
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On October 29 2012 14:43 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 14:36 Incanus wrote:On October 29 2012 14:28 mongmong wrote:On October 29 2012 14:10 ZerglingTwins wrote:On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. Yes, hype is over, because it is already confirmed. Confirmed?? I wonder what so called TBLS are doing right now.. hmm................. Not to even mention that none of the kespa players made it out of up&down matches. So, how are those "real talents" doing ?? All of the KeSPA players are still improving way faster than basically all of the eSF players. A few KeSPA players have already caught up to or surpassed all the eSF players. In 6 months they will have improved beyond that. All of the kespa players have improved that much because they had all the vods, replays and coaches. Also you dont really seem to understand the concept of diminishing returns.
by this logic, grr is the greatest bw player ever
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On October 29 2012 14:28 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 14:10 ZerglingTwins wrote:On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. Yes, hype is over, because it is already confirmed. Confirmed?? I wonder what so called TBLS are doing right now.. hmm................. Not to even mention that none of the kespa players made it out of up&down matches. So, how are those "real talents" doing ??
Yeah, I mean look at how many tournaments these players have had the opportunity to play in recently! Jaedong has only played in MVP recently, where he went overall 50% against Oz, Alicia, Alive, Puma and Crank. He 2-0ed MC, but I believe those were forfeits? Flash went 9-3. Bisu went 5-7. Stork went 50%. So, what exactly are you expecting from these players who've had hardly anything to play in for a while?
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On October 29 2012 14:49 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 14:28 mongmong wrote:On October 29 2012 14:10 ZerglingTwins wrote:On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. Yes, hype is over, because it is already confirmed. Confirmed?? I wonder what so called TBLS are doing right now.. hmm................. Not to even mention that none of the kespa players made it out of up&down matches. So, how are those "real talents" doing ?? Yeah, I mean look at how many tournaments these players have had the opportunity to play in recently! Jaedong has only played in MVP recently, where he went overall 50% against Oz, Alicia, Alive, Puma and Crank. He 2-0ed MC, but I believe those were forfeits? Flash went 9-3. Bisu went 5-7. Stork went 50%. So, what exactly are you expecting from these players who've had hardly anything to play in for a while?
To be fair, oz, alicia, alive, puma and crank are code a players at best (most of them are in code b). i agree that most kespa players seem to be around A-level atm, but we'll see better in more time.
Regardless, this debate is unproductive
On October 29 2012 14:35 ZerglingTwins wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 14:28 mongmong wrote:On October 29 2012 14:10 ZerglingTwins wrote:On October 29 2012 10:32 Kluey wrote:On October 29 2012 09:30 Salazarz wrote:
People saying eSF teams would have 'an easy road to victory' vs KeSPA teams need a reality check, lol. Are you kidding? The hype is over. Rain, Bogus and Roro/Soulkey are the only ones that lived up to the hype. Flash, JD, Stork and Bisu are all Code A level. Flash maybe improving extremely fast but eSF players aren't going to stop improving. Yes, hype is over, because it is already confirmed. Confirmed?? I wonder what so called TBLS are doing right now.. hmm................. Not to even mention that none of the kespa players made it out of up&down matches. So, how are those "real talents" doing ?? If GSL gave 16 seeds in code S to KeSPA players last season like OSL did, you will see a KeSPA player take the gold.
kespa needed those 8 ESF seeds to legitimise their tournament. otherwise it'd be another disaster like hybrid PL
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stop derailing the thread
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EPT
