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On February 22 2011 10:06 iNcontroL wrote:
The voting is a fun way to get involved and support your favorite players. It helps but by no means WHAT SO EVER decides who gets selected.
Please stop looking for ways to make this a bad thing.
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I by no means am trying to make NASL look bad (I'm VERY excited for the NASL, and am sure it'll be a huge success), but my honest (and I think fairly logical) interpretation of how players get into NASL was that it's a popularity contest. I mean, the quotes from NASL.tv say it almost verbatim.
Now I'm just confused, and obvious questions are raised:
Is it basically invite-only with popularity playing a role in the invites? If so, how else are invites determined? How can this avoid becoming purely subjective (thus causing the same problems as a popularity contest, making it extremely hard for new faces)?
If 16 spots came from a big open tourney, and 32 came from invites [and then these 48 competed for the final 16 spots], I don't think anyone would be... nervous, shall I say...
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It's 100% certain that it's not 100% bad, but still, from NASL.tv:
"50 of the world's best players will be featured weekly. Make sure to vote for your favorite player to increase their chances of being chosen for the league!"
"50 players will compete in an online group stage in which 15 players will advance to the Grand Finals, which will be a 16 man LAN event. "
"There will be an Open Tournament where the winner will be awarded a spot at the Grand Finals. "
So only one spot comes from an Open Tournament? You have to be the Grand Champion of a tournament just to QUALIFY for this tournament, unless you win a popularity contest?
:/.
Edit for poll:
Personally, I think all spots should come from an open tourney for the sake of the players. If we're trying to make more appeal for viewers or something, then I think a split between open/popularity might be good.
Poll: Better formatSplit between Open/Invite (175) 51% All spots from open tourney (98) 28% Split between Open/Invite/Popularity (40) 12% Split between Open/Popularity (16) 5% All spots from invites (9) 3% All spots from popularity contest (5) 1% Split between Invite/Popularity (3) 1% 346 total votes Your vote: Better format (Vote): All spots from open tourney
(Vote): All spots from invites
(Vote): All spots from popularity contest
(Vote): Split between Open/Invite
(Vote): Split between Open/Popularity
(Vote): Split between Invite/Popularity
(Vote): Split between Open/Invite/Popularity
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All-Star/Pro Bowl says hi. (Vote for DIMAGA!)
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Implying the most popular Players aren't the players we want to see play.
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On February 22 2011 09:32 Buddhist wrote:
"50 of the world's best players will be featured weekly. Make sure to vote for your favorite player to increase their chances of being chosen for the league!"
:/.
This doesn't have to mean that it's entirely based on voting.
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That's the only way it should be. The good players who have won lots of tournaments are the popular ones and the ones people want to watch the most. I don't want to watch a bunch of people who just managed to cheese their way into a spot.
You gotta work hard for this tournament, the way it should be.
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Australia8532 Posts
It took you less than half an hour to find something to whine about .. Can you just appreciate a $400k tournament in the foreign scene just for a little bit?
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What's the problem of only champions being in the tournament?
You want the biggest league with popular players, that's what you get. Consider that your qualifier; winning a tournament.
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On February 22 2011 09:34 MuteZephyr wrote:
That's the only way it should be. The good players who have won lots of tournaments are the popular ones and the ones people want to watch the most. I don't want to watch a bunch of people who just managed to cheese their way into a spot.
You gotta work hard for this tournament, the way it should be.
Uhm, no? Popularity has nothing to do with success.
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where can i vote oGsMC/IMMVP/Nestea? I can't seem to be able to vote for the best players.
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Well assuming the open tournament is casted, the people in there could get a chance to show themselves. If people like them, they can get on through the voting thing even if they dont win. 
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On February 22 2011 09:35 bkrow wrote:
It took you less than half an hour to find something to whine about .. Can you just appreciate a $400k tournament in the foreign scene just for a little bit?
We've been aware of the NASL for days. I'm very excited about it. It'd be irresponsible to not immediately find the flaws, however.
Imho, the less open the tourney, the worse. It just makes it harder for new players to get anywhere.
Hopefully the format is at least good, ie. BO3 and double elimination from RO16.
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Doesn't explicitly state that those 50 spots will only be filled from votes. Might be 10 votes 40 invites for all we know.
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And you're wrong...top 15 come from the 50 people playing 1v1. It seems the last spot will be from an open tournament. Not a very good thread...at all. Appreciate the work they're doing and what they're doing for esports. Wow.
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On February 22 2011 09:35 Brad wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 09:34 MuteZephyr wrote:
That's the only way it should be. The good players who have won lots of tournaments are the popular ones and the ones people want to watch the most. I don't want to watch a bunch of people who just managed to cheese their way into a spot.
You gotta work hard for this tournament, the way it should be. Uhm, no? Popularity has nothing to do with success.
Well lucky us in StarCraft it does.
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Let's just see what happens, it should be fine.
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i dont mind the system, but the poll is flawed, as the first couple of people who got votes were bumped up to the front page and now nobody is going to go down and look at the later pages...
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Australia8532 Posts
Lol.. i am sorry to bring this up.. but i just thought - what are the chances of them having extended series?
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Popularity =/= success, guys
Look at Idra, he has a bunch of haters, does that mean he isn't very successful? no... He has a bunch of fans too ofc, but so do many other players.
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Why this is a terrible idea:
Players of certain nationalities will have an advantage. Americans and Russians (and with Russians I mean Brat_OK looking at the backing he got in the GOM foreign invitees thread ) specifically.
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On February 22 2011 09:37 Marou wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 09:35 Brad wrote:On February 22 2011 09:34 MuteZephyr wrote:
That's the only way it should be. The good players who have won lots of tournaments are the popular ones and the ones people want to watch the most. I don't want to watch a bunch of people who just managed to cheese their way into a spot.
You gotta work hard for this tournament, the way it should be. Uhm, no? Popularity has nothing to do with success. Well lucky us in StarCraft it does.
YellOw wants to say hello.
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