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On February 22 2011 09:37 Buddhist wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 09:35 bkrow wrote: It took you less than half an hour to find something to whine about .. Can you just appreciate a $400k tournament in the foreign scene just for a little bit? We've been aware of the NASL for days. I'm very excited about it. It'd be irresponsible to not immediately find the flaws, however. Imho, the less open the tourney, the worse. It just makes it harder for new players to get anywhere. Hopefully the format is at least good, ie. BO3 and double elimination from RO16. Thinking your post on TL.net has anything to do with being responsible is a little bit hilarious..
Anyway - it was just all exciting and then saw a forum post with negativity straight away.. was a bit of a downer.. didn't mean to come across malicious 
Glad you are excited about it
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On February 22 2011 09:35 Skillz_Man wrote: What's the problem of only champions being in the tournament?
You want the biggest league with popular players, that's what you get. Consider that your qualifier; winning a tournament. Popular players don't mean the best players in the world which is where his concern comes from. If TLOpen has proven anything is that there are so many players in the scene that are overlooked because they are not TLO's, MorroW or Strelok yet they are just as good or possibly better than them. Which is why the whole popularity contest thing will diminish the chances of good/better players not being able to compete.
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Yeah, like we wanna see BitByBit or Rain play. Id rather we vote for the good players and let 50% of the rest be newcomers to have a chance at starting their own e-sports career.
I think one of the best things about GSL is tastosis. They just make watching the games so fun. And they have an awesome voice put together. Incontrol is also awesome and strelock is good but noone can compete with tastosis.
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Great format, sucks for those too stupid to figure out what "50 players will compete in an online group stage in which 15 players will advance to the Grand Finals, which will be a 16 man LAN event" means though.
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talk about hopes being crushed.
basically every person who submits themselves to be ontthe list will be so behind in votes it wont matter.
what a jokeeeee
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On February 22 2011 09:39 CDRdude wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 09:37 Marou wrote:On February 22 2011 09:35 Brad wrote:On February 22 2011 09:34 MuteZephyr wrote: That's the only way it should be. The good players who have won lots of tournaments are the popular ones and the ones people want to watch the most. I don't want to watch a bunch of people who just managed to cheese their way into a spot.
You gotta work hard for this tournament, the way it should be. Uhm, no? Popularity has nothing to do with success. Well lucky us in StarCraft it does. YellOw wants to say hello.
YellOw was successful.
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I'm pretty sure this is around 60% bad.... should be more spots from open qual. uniden would win a spot for example. easy.
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Thinking your post on TL.net has anything to do with being responsible is a little bit hilarious..
Are you basically saying that TL is a joke and we shouldn't discuss things about eSports here because we have no power?
Also, finding out the flaws =/= posting on TL
This is eSports we're talking about, and it's still in its infancy especially in NA... it should be the best it can be and have the cleanest start possible to ensure a good future.
Edit: Also, what about Koreans? Are none of them on the voting list? Are they saying that Asians will have to compete in that Open Tournament? So basically this is a foreigners' only league?
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Any1 knows that they wont just cast the most popular players, and let them all play for the top spots?
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On February 22 2011 09:42 PhiliBiRD wrote: talk about hopes being crushed.
basically every person who submits themselves to be ontthe list will be so behind in votes it wont matter.
what a jokeeeee :/ I feel really sorry for you honestly
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Are we able to vote for Koreans?
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Incontrol is currently sitting at tenth, obviously actual results have nothing to do with popularity.
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I'm wary of anything with this kind of voting system, but it's not exactly clear to me what the voting is for. I think it's too early to judge anything too definitively, but suffice to say that new leagues for SC2 are obviously positive.
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On February 22 2011 09:39 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Popularity =/= success, guys
Look at Idra, he has a bunch of haters, does that mean he isn't very successful? no... He has a bunch of fans too ofc, but so do many other players.
IdrA is probably in the top 5 most popular (EDIT: SC2) players of all time. And he most certainly deserves a spot.
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I think this idea for a starleague is great. However,i feel that the players in the tournament should have to qualify just like gsl. They are picking and choosing.(basing this off an assumption) very disappointing.
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Im not really surprised this is a big circle jerk tournament, all the tournaments ran by people associated with sc1 bw always host these tournaments, its cant really be a surprise.
Its going to be really sad when destiny gets in, he couldnt even make top8 at MWC, but he has so many fans he will get voted in
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On February 22 2011 09:46 MuteZephyr wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2011 09:39 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: Popularity =/= success, guys
Look at Idra, he has a bunch of haters, does that mean he isn't very successful? no... He has a bunch of fans too ofc, but so do many other players. IdrA is probably in the top 5 most popular players of all time. And he most certainly deserves a spot.
You're missing the point.
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On February 22 2011 09:39 Gigaudas wrote: Why this is a terrible idea:
Players of certain nationalities will have an advantage. Americans and Russians (and with Russians I mean Brat_OK looking at the backing he got in the GOM foreign invitees thread ) specifically.
Brat_OK isn't even on the list of players you can vote for.
I'm disappointed in this setup for the tournament, it's going to be mostly people who aren't at the highest level of the game but just pander to the fans.
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Excuse me, I have missed the announcement and I can't find any reference to this on the nasl.tv website, and I have one question: can you vote for Koreans?
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so cool they give 1 spot to an open tourney... It's pretty much impossible to win even if ur the best player in the world.. as unfortunate as that is. it is sc2, we wont be seeing any dark horses =/
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