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Im wondering if University degree is a must have to be succesful in life.
I dont mean make millions but enough to sustain a comfortable life. I am currently enrolled in 1st year but I have to find a job to support my family due to an unexpected issue. Im not sure what to do, it seems like my world just ended.
Im 19 right now, and currently studing computer science. My goal was to open my own online business in the future, or gain experience in a work place.
Im currently unsure of which specific path i want to take, but i have a strong interest in webpage designining.
P.S - My definition of success would be living a comfortable life with your family where money doesnt interfere.
So I ask you. is University a neccesity to have a succesful life. If not, why?
Poll: Teamliquid, Do you attend university?Yes, Currently (714) 73% Yes, will in the future [Highschool] (156) 16% No, I do not have a degree (77) 8% No, Currently (26) 3% 973 total votes Your vote: Teamliquid, Do you attend university? (Vote): Yes, Currently
(Vote): No, Currently
(Vote): Yes, will in the future [Highschool]
(Vote): No, I do not have a degree
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No (to your questions, yes I attend university). There's a lot of routes you can take to a comfortable life. Trades are a perfectly viable route, and sometimes you can get paid as you learn. Depending on where you live, there might even be a greater demand for tradesmen than university educated people.
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I'm already out and have a degree. Is it necessary? Yes and no. Plenty of people do fine without it, but the way society is structured, I think getting a degree is the norm and the expectation.
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I'm at University because I want a degree to increase the probability of occupational success. Also, there wasn't a reason for me to not attend.
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Well it definitely helps. But is not required.
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There are plenty of ways to succeed, but most of the people I know who had the opportunity to attend university and did not regret it, and even those that did regret not staying for longer (One relative wishes they had another doctorate). In general, I'd say that its probably one of the best things one can do for themselves. I've got financial support to deal with the heavy tuition I have to pay, you should look into it as well, and you can always look into a part time job
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Think of university degree as a passport that allows you to get to where you want in life much easier than normally otherwise.
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Degrees are lowering in value as time goes on. Graduating from high school is now worth less than it was 30 years ago. I believe you need a degree of some kind, but from a university is not needed.
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There are more options then Yes go to a university or no don't go.
Personally Merchant Marine was much MUCH more appealing then me then staying in college just for a piece of paper that will only help me find a job. But I also don't have a family to take care of.
But to be honest it really does depends on a lot of things. Location, how much you want/need to make to live a comfortable life (some need more then others), size family, can you attend and work, etc.
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I go to school and I don't think it's a necessity. Having a degree is nice because if makes you feel accomplished and is a even bigger deal to those who are 1st generation graduate in their family. A lot of people put a big emphasis on going to a big name school, but I don't believe it. Not saying I think it's stupid and I encourage people to try their hardest to get into one, but I think learning is what you make it out to be. It is about going to school, graduating, and applying that knowledge you attained and applying it to the real world. Some schools offer courses that will go more in-depth than others, that is for sure, but there is such a huge misconception towards "lower end universities" or community colleges.
I say it's not a necessity because school isn't for everyone. Some people do just fine having a high school degree only and possibly an AA degree. I can't speak because of my experiences, but I believe it is harder to get a job without having a higher degree. You can always work your way up, but you're gonna have to work hard and show your superiors that you deserve a promotion/raise.
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I go to uni and I wouldn't call it necessary. My dad provided me and my family a great life with very little education (working in construction). In fact, he's largely paying for my education. :O
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The way i wanna see it, it's that a University is quite the intellectual challenge that will define you, like no other endeavor would. Is it necessary for money making? Not, but it's quite helpful. That is if you man-up, and decide to major some scientific university and not some "human resources" type of university, where you practically learn bunch of useless crap.
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I'm currently making about $55k a year at age 25 with no college degree, so no, it's not exactly necessary. It does make it easier on you though. From what I've seen experience > degree. If you have two guys, one with no degree and 4 years experience in a field, and the other with a 4 year degree and no experience, the guy with the experience has the edge.
Obviously this doesn't apply to some careers like doctors/lawyers/etc, though, so it all depends on where you want to end up in life.
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On the other hand though, I would love to have a degree.....it just isn't worth it, because in the time it would take to get a degree, I could have made $210k....I would love a degree in music...but the practical side of me knows that I'll never make good money playing what I love, classical music.
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who else would have the time to spend on teamliquid and play starcraft besides university kids.
On January 05 2011 11:11 Sm3agol wrote:
I'm currently making about $55k a year at age 25 with no college degree, so no, it's not exactly necessary. It does make it easier on you though. From what I've seen experience > degree. If you have two guys, one with no degree and 4 years experience in a field, and the other with a 4 year degree and no experience, the guy with the experience has the edge.
Obviously this doesn't apply to some careers like doctors/lawyers/etc, though, so it all depends on where you want to end up in life.
I say if you know what you want to do with your life you have all you need.
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University is by no means necessary. In fact, I think it would benefit society if fewer people were to attend university and more people would attend community colleges, trade schools, or simply enter the workforce.
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On January 05 2011 11:11 Sm3agol wrote:
I'm currently making about $55k a year at age 25 with no college degree, so no, it's not exactly necessary. It does make it easier on you though. From what I've seen experience > degree. If you have two guys, one with no degree and 4 years experience in a field, and the other with a 4 year degree and no experience, the guy with the experience has the edge.
Obviously this doesn't apply to some careers like doctors/lawyers/etc, though, so it all depends on where you want to end up in life.
True, but 4 years + university > 5 years experience would beb etter 
I agree with Empyrean, but at the current state society is in it is best for the individual to go to universtiy (in general)
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It's not a guarantee of success, but in my country at least, it's the most certain path to it. In some other countries there are other ways to provide a nice life and have decent earnings without a college degrees. In chile this is somewhat rare, unless you have some family business you can rely on. It's actually one of the worst aspects of this country. Basically, if your parents don't have college degrees they'll probably not have the money to pay for decent school, since most public schools suck badly. That means those people probably won't get into college, thus they'll not get good jobs. It's a very bad vicious circle, awfully hard to break.
So yes, here it's almost necessary to get a college degree, unless you got a good alternative planned way ahead.
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as everyone else has said, a degree will help to some extent.
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Universities are too expensive to attend in return for what they teach. Society also negatively views anyone who doesn't attend one. Therefore you fail either way.
Get thousands upon thousands in student loans of which you will be repaying for years after you graduate. You essentially dedicate 2-4yrs of your life to school learning something that might or might not repay you in the long term. Then add in another 2-4yrs for more schooling if necessary. Then spend 2-20+years repaying those debts with or without a job that you went to school for.
Or you can not go to a university, get a job, and work your way up with real life experience. You will go through life though with people having a negative view of you because you didn't go to school. That is until you start earning enough money to make it worth it.
Up to you, both choices are viable. Just decide what you wanna do. Spend 2-8yrs in school, and then the following 2-20yrs+ repaying loans to have a good job in the long run (not guaranteed). Or just get into the workforce now and get a good job in the long run (again not guaranteed).
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On January 05 2011 11:13 Froadac wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 11:11 Sm3agol wrote:
I'm currently making about $55k a year at age 25 with no college degree, so no, it's not exactly necessary. It does make it easier on you though. From what I've seen experience > degree. If you have two guys, one with no degree and 4 years experience in a field, and the other with a 4 year degree and no experience, the guy with the experience has the edge.
Obviously this doesn't apply to some careers like doctors/lawyers/etc, though, so it all depends on where you want to end up in life. True, but 4 years + university > 5 years experience would beb etter
Maybe. Experience is so huge though. Look at job sites, and most of their requirements go something like a degree in X, or Y years of experience. Sure, if it came down to just you vs another guy, and you were exactly equal, then he would win, but this is real life, and humans are humans, so if you had 5 years of experience vs someone with one year + a degree, and you couldn't show you would be better suited for the job than him, then you deserve to lose it.
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