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The eSports Canada Podcast

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Cedstick
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Last Edited: 2011-09-13 06:16:44
September 14 2010 04:37 GMT
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      The Meta-Game is http://esportscanada.net's premiere podcast, a weekly audio show recorded live every Monday that covers both the Canadian and International Starcraft 2 scene, with a focus on our local Vancouver, BC area. Regardless, we get behind current events, strategies and mind-sets in our competitive community. We also have regular guests, who we ambush with inappropriate quick-fire questions, so come listen to us make pros and community figures feel awkward! Yay!

Streamed live at 8 PM PST on Monday evenings! http://twitch.tv/lojiqaen

iTunes and RSS feed info: http://feeds.feedburner.com/esportscanada/meta-game
Twitter updates: http://www.twitter.com/Cedstick

Current Episode(s)


Technical difficulties kind of gets us down, so it's a short one this week (ironically, with our cast,) but the gang piles out of a clown-car and get's some good discuss going about the Code S finals and the state of TvT, the supposed Neural Parasite changes, gosh-blasted Ghosts, and touch on the start of the Collegiate Star League 2011/2012 season! Featuring Cedric "Cedstick" Cook, Sam "FireZerg" Prowse, Adrian "Menkt" Fakstorp, Dan "LojiQaen" Sealey, Scott "Chrome" Rebelo, James "CanucksJC" Choi and our guest calling from Korea, Jungho "tQwannaBe" Hwang. Sorry about the audio quality this week; everyone seemed to be having connection issues, and it doesn't help Jungho was calling from Korea!

We didn't mention on the cast, but LojiQaen and I will be commentating BCIT's matches live each week, so come tune-in for some Masters-level play! This week's match is 1PM PDT on Saturday (September 17th,) and I'll update the Twitter when we go live.

Last, but certainly not least: FireZerg of Baneling.
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http://esportscanada.net/podcast/Meta-Game_ep13.mp3

If you've got any questions for the podcast -- anything at all, we're up for some laughs, but be creative if it isn't serious -- don't hesitate to post in this thread, ask me on Twitter.com/Cedstick or e-mail me at cedriccook1@esportscanada.net
For reference regarding, "creativity": http://youtu.be/rqFrs-j9xJY

Show Notes:
Code S Final VODs can be found at: http://gomtv.net
1.4 discussion regarding Neural Parasite: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=258724
Collegiate Star League: http://cstarleague.com (look-up BCIT or UBC, or any other school!)
Phatnelia, producer of the show theme: http://www.youtube.com/user/frysmaktoff
604starcraft on Facebook and Twitter! (Vancouver area)
http://CyberGaming.ca


Past Episodes

+ Show Spoiler [Episode 12] +
The Foreigners are coming, the Foreigners are com-- wait, that is actually completely out of context. Regardless, we talk about Foreigners in Korea and if we may see more of them move to Korean teams, such as Fenix. Additionally, we look at the up-coming Code A foreigner seeds and Code A's difficulty in the October season, touch on WCG Canada -- rather, I touch on it -- and last, but most certainly not least, we talk to this week's guest, Zac "VPChance" Palmer, about his state in eSports and how he's a Korean at heart. I added that last bit, but fifty games a day sounds close enough!

Oh, and we're the Meta-Game again. Hurr hurr.

http://esportscanada.net/podcast/Meta-Game_ep12.mp3

If you've got any questions for the podcast -- anything at all, we're up for some laughs, but be creative if it isn't serious -- don't hesitate to post in this thread, or e-mail me at cedriccook1@esportscanada.net
For reference regarding, "creativity": http://youtu.be/rqFrs-j9xJY

Show Notes:
Code A General page (Liquipedia es #1!): http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Global_StarCraft_II_League_October/Code_A
Fenix to Incredible Miracle: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=261457
Drewbie to Korea: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255746
The WCG Canada discussion (more relevant information in the last pages): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=217843
604starcraft on Facebook and Twitter! (Vancouver area)

Fuck it, just call us the Team Liquid Canada podcast -_-

+ Show Spoiler [Episode 11] +
      After a myriad of technical difficulties, the podcast is up! Four days late! That's what happens when you have no website to upload it to! Despite adversity on all sides, I manage to upload our discussions on 1.4 (AGAIN, sorry), MLG Raleigh's turn-out, BarCraft, deadly elevator mishaps, and more shenanigans! Tune-in and enjoy! Featuring such talents as Cedric "Cedstick" Cook, Adrian "Menkt" Fakstorp, Scott "Chrome" Rebelo, James "CanucksJC" Choi and Dan "LojiQaen" Sealey.

      On a semi-related note, we've all agreed on the podcast needing more structure, so if you've ever thought we were getting a bit boring dawdling on about stuff, we'll be fixing that in future episodes. Additionally, we now stream our podcast live on Monday nights at 8pm PST thanks to Dan at http://twitch.tv/lojiqaen.

http://esportscanada.net/podcast/Meta-Game_ep11.mp3

      If you've got any questions for the podcast -- anything at all, we're up for some laughs, but be creative if it isn't serious -- don't hesitate to post in this thread, or e-mail me at cedriccook1@esportscanada.net
For reference regarding, "creativity": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqFrs-j9xJY

Show Notes:
MLG Raleigh: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Raleigh
BarCraft Everything (originally from Reddit): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=248963
604starcraft on Facebook and Twitter! (Vancouver area)

+ Show Spoiler [Episode 10 and 10b] +
      WHEREIN we discuss the recently-passed Cyber Gaming Invitational held at Memory Express in Richmond, BC (thanks Memory Express dot com,) the controversial 1/1/1 build, MLG Raleigh and associated BarCrafts, Stealthypoo the dirty stream-cheater and user questions! A five-man team creates chaos this week, but it's a good one. Cedric "Cedstick" Cook, Adrian "Menkt" Fakstorp, James "Hurroh I'm CanucksJC" Choi, Scott "Chrome" Rebelo and Dan "LojiQaen of Al-Queda" Sealey.

http://esportscanada.net/podcast/Meta-Game_ep10.mp3

As a bonus: mini-podcast! Adrian comes back on for a mid-week discussion on the 1.4 PtR preview and we get Sam "FireZerg" Prowse' thoughts on the MLG pools! Also, we say good-bye to Kevin "SCanemone" Kinney, who sadly couldn't make it.

http://esportscanada.net/podcast/Meta-Game_ep10b.mp3

      If you've got any questions for the podcast -- anything at all, we're up for some laughs, but be creative if it isn't serious -- don't hesitate to post in this thread, or e-mail me at cedriccook1@esportscanada.net

Show Notes:
Cyber Gaming and Invitational Info: http://cybergaming.ca/
Terran IMBA!: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257589
MLG Raleigh: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Raleigh
eSportsCanada.net is not the same as Ontario-area esportscanada.org
BarCraft Vancouver: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=256277
BarCraft Everything Else (originally from Reddit): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=248963
604starcraft on Facebook and Twitter! (Vancouver area)

+ Show Spoiler [Episode 9] +
      Oh, hey there. Remember us? We used to do a podcast n' stuff! Welp, here, have another one! We're back on track -- I know, I know, we said that last time -- and ready to pump-out some podcasts and work hard in the Starcraft community, because the new school year is about to start, and what better time, right? Yay, distractions!

      Today I'm down one cSOanemone and one FireZerg, but up one Adrian "Menkt" Fakstorp and one James "CanucksJC" Choi (of Team Liquid fame) to talk about the recent MLG Anaheim tournament and the Canadians in attendance -- dead hookers at Zaby's Motor Lodge coverage included! -- tournaments and community developments the podcast has missed in it's down time, and local tournaments these two are helping organize.

      Next week we plan to have one or both of these fine fellows -- who are great for a discussion -- on again next week to talk about the up-coming cG Invitational taking place, only with a full house hopefully, so stay-tuned for that, too. I've also updated the iTunes feed, too! Yay! Enjoy.

eSportsCanada Podcast: Episode 8: Cheese Edition

Show Notes:
cG Tournament http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255354
GomTV Star League http://www.gomtv.net
MLG Anaheim threads on Team Liquid, because I have no idea what specifically to link! Check-out the Recap Video thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=anaheim&t=t&f=-1&u=&gb=date&d=

+ Show Spoiler [Episode 8] +
      Today's episode is brought to you by Faygo and Insane Clown Posse Chrome-Brand® Blue Razzleberry™! Complexity's Ryze and Grand-Master Gilmish, from Ontario and Manitoba, respectively, join us today to talk a lot about cheese: local tournaments, online tournaments, everywhere. Ok, so it's not all about cheese, but the CombatEX discussion goes on way too long. Mostly because of me. What? He's fun to talk about. Also discussed is the tQ tournament, a touch on the TSL Round-of-8, the Collegiate Star League, Blue Razzleberry soda -- a Baneling Bust on your tastebuds™ -- and, of course, event listings for Canada -- now including the East Coast! Yay! Last, but certainly not least, the Quick-fire segments returns, but we're really bad at it, as usual. Best enjoyed with Blue Razzleberry™ soda!

One last note: I'll be twitter-updating the status of the podcast from now on, since I don't use Twitter for anything else. I might link to some stupid internet crap, too, so start following http://www.twitter.com/Cedstick

eSportsCanada Podcast: Episode 8: Cheese Edition

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Check the eSportsCanada.net post for more info, including show notes and links!

+ Show Spoiler [Episode 7] +
We return from the wild, savages all, vile and uncouth, spreading nothing, but hate.

We heard hating on people got you hits, so we pretty much spun a wheel, picked some people, and hated on them. Also included is a terrible re-cap of all major tournaments world-wide, some random shout-outs -- because I like to do that, apparently -- a few up-coming tournaments in the Vancouver area, and no structure whatsoever. I swear to you, it'll be better next episode. Promise. PROMISE. It was just so damn unorganized and chaotic, I thought I'd preserve the essence.

The Meta-Game: Episode 7: Hate Edition

+ Show Spoiler [Episode 6] +
We're back in the first of a slew of podcasts before the holidays, including mid-week -- see: weekend -- mini-cast on patch 1.2. For now, though, we bring Edwin "kOre" Jung on to discuss his international Starcraft Pro-Gaming merchandiser, Starcraft Mecca (dot net!) We start with a rap-up of the Canadian Cup, go over some of the GomTV Star League Round-of-8 games, get the low-down on Pro Starcraft apparel, and introduce one of a few new segments currently in the works, the Hot Seat! It failed this episode, but hilariously so, so it's not all bad. Last, but certainly not least, we pay a small tribute to a local hero, sadly decided to retire.

The Meta-Game: Episode 6!

+ Show Spoiler [Episodes 5] +
Wooooooooooow is this late. After Finals, three illnesses in four weeks, a website hack and a hard drive crash, I gotta' admit, I kinda wanted a break. Not sayin' editing a podcast is extremely hard stuff, but my head was... kinda' full. It doesn't matter, though, because now it's up and we're getting back on track!

We discuss many things, like our bad-ass new theme, the Canadian West vs East Grudge Match results, kind of the GSL up to, but not spoiling the Semi-Finals, and last, but certainly not least, The Canadian Cup, it's past, present and future with the L2SC.net guys, guesting in this week's episode. Shenanigans abound as well, as you might have guessed by now. That said, click the Male-Order Bride to listen to the podcast!

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+ Show Spoiler [Episodes 4a and 4b] +
Episode 4! Another late podcast, but I was sick and tired, and Sam being sick as well put us on hold for a bit. As compensation for your patience, though, you get a B-side of this podcast, which I'll be putting up in a few days.

This week we take some time discussing the recent tournaments, such as the Round-of-64 of the GomTV Star League Season 2 — if we’re calling them seasons — MLG in DC and Blizzcon. Also discussed are some of the Blizzcon announcements, Patch 1.1.2 and how we’re liking it, and radio voices — something not all of us were born with, apparently. Last, but definitely not least: tree bark. Smoke-able, smoke-able tree bark. Due to lack of time and health this podcast wasn't edited much except for a little audio cleaning -- there was a recording problem -- and the customary musical cuts. Enjoy the rambling Meandercast!

The Meta-Game: Episode 4!
Episode 4 B-side

Check the eSportsCanada.net post for more info, including show notes!

+ Show Spoiler [Episode 3] +
It's the Meta-Game, back from the dead -- or maybe having just missed a week. We totally make-up for the missed time, though, with four eager members ready to talk our hearts out about Starcraft. Heading the podcast today we have the usual Cedric "Cedstick" Cook and Kevin "SCAnemone" Kinney, with our new regular, the one, the only, Sam "FireZerg" Prowse. Joining us half-way through is this week's guest, soon-to-be co-commentator with Kevin, Nick "Carefoot" Carefoot, who ups the podcast rating a notch to PG-16. We take over an hour and fifteen minutes to wrap-up the last two weeks, and man, is there ever a lot to wrap-up!

Today we discuss -- deep breath -- the Patch 1.2 ideas, the Starcraft Against Disease LAN, lame-ass GGs, everything you ever wanted to know about L2SC and the impending popularization of North American eSports (we hope!), the end of GSL Season One, the impending GSL Season Two, including it's qualifiers, colour commentating, Nick's body-parts (oh, dear), and much, much more.

The Meta-Game: Episode 3

+ Show Spoiler [Episode 2] +
Oh my god, it's The Meta-Game for September 28th, posted early the next morning! What's the date? Don't ask me, 'cause apparently I don't know! I digress. We have our first third chair and guest on this episode, none other than MyRevenge's newest team member, FireZerg, AKA Sam Prowse -- who has stated that he'd love to be a regular member, so make sure to let him know you want him back on!

We discuss, par for the course, the GSL, as well as Team Liquid's second TL Open tournament, the impending S.A.D. charity tournament again, Patch 1.2's announcement, the Collegiate Star League and then grill FireZerg about what he's been up to, and his plans for competitive Starcraft in the near future. We close with the most random five to ten minutes ofbanter you will ever hear. Ever wanted to go to school to eat produce and talk to a farmer about Starcraft? You may have your chance! Tune-in for our longest podcast yet at a good fifty-five minutes.

The Meta-Game: Episode 2: The Meta-Game is a Totally Legit Name, Why Haters Gotta Hate?

This episode goes out to our "biggest fan": yes, we will make more, <em>just for you!</em> There ya go.

Check the eSportsCanada.net post for more info, including show notes!

+ Show Spoiler [Episode One - It's Official] +
Episode One: it’s official — we're on iTunes, andwe have intro music! Intro song generously provided by the artist Phatnelia, who you can find more from at his Soundcloud page and his Youtube channel. Artificial Sunlight, the song used at the start, can be found here with an MP3 download available.

The Meta-Game Podcast: Episode 1

With our official debut — none of that pilot stuff — we discuss the imminent Patch 1.1.0, the Starcraft Against Disease charity tournament in Richmond, BC, Canada (which you should totally check-out if you can), the GSL Round-of-32, how to deal with Protoss-versus-Protoss cheese, using your in-game map-hacks as Zerg (el oh el) and what to expect on future episodes of the show. Also, I apologize for the lateness of the episode; I will likely be moving the show to a Monday or Tuesday posting to make sure we can get the best quality out in relation to both our schedules.

Check the eSportsCanada.net post for more info, including show notes!

+ Show Spoiler [Episode Zero - The Pilot Episode] +
Today, September 13th, 2010, we happily debut our pilot podcast, wherein we discuss our website plans, the GOMTV Star League Round-of-64 advancing players (spoilers!), Blizzard's tentative patch notes for the coming 1.1 balance patch, and balancing your larvae production as Zerg.

The Meta-Game: Episode Zero Pilot!

I hope you guys like what you hear, and I encourage you speak-up and provide some feedback! And, yes, I realize he's the game-brain behind the show, and that's why I have him talk more on the strategy segment at the end. I'm more of the community guy. Also, there will be less pauses in the future -- I've been up since yesterday, but we had the free time and wanted to squeeze our first episode in tonight as we've been waiting eagerly for over a week to get it done.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
ExoTau
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada67 Posts
September 14 2010 04:43 GMT
#2
Love podcasts, I'll subscribe.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 05:33:33
September 14 2010 05:24 GMT
#3
Thank you :D I'm hyped it went as smoothly as it did, despite my fatigue pronouncing more than a couple "ums." Still better than Tasteless, though :D lolz. I'll have a good night's rest for the next podcast, so it should flow more smoothly.

*EDIT* Oh, and as we said in the podcast, we'd love for some input from listeners, such as the requested non-expo hatchery play, but also topical feedback -- we'd love to answer a few questions and discuss with you guys out there.

Last but not least, I have a few musicians who have generously let me use their music for my projects, so I'll be using some of their music as intros, outros, and if needed, breaks from here-on. Not just body-less voices! Yay!
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
September 14 2010 05:37 GMT
#4
you're going to get a lot of heat for misusing meta game. but... hope your podcasts go well?
Barett
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada454 Posts
September 14 2010 05:39 GMT
#5
Love podcast's, and have been looking for more too listen to while at work.
Your podcast seemed pretty good, has alot of potential too be a great podcast. One of the best among Weapon of Choice, The Creep, State of the Game, and The Elitist's.
Could you please upload it too iTunes though? Thanks :D
Gym, Video Games, Laundry.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-14 06:21:02
September 14 2010 06:16 GMT
#6
AcrossFiveJulys, I believe I used the term properly The meta-game is the shift in popular strategy and common reactions to such as players disect a match-up and it's subtleties. This is one thing we discuss every episode during the last segment of the show (see: larvae management.) Thank you for the well-wishes!

Barett, I do intend on doing that! Not this very night, as I've never done any o' that RSS stuff, and I'm pretty tired -- I'll figure it out tomorrow. Thank you very much for putting us up as a potential against these other establishments! Really makes me want to bust my ass on these projects.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
Ethic
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada439 Posts
September 14 2010 13:04 GMT
#7
You need a day9'ish personality on your podcast!
SC2 ID: Ethic.791 - 1v1 DIAMOND - SHILOH UPSILON
Tristan
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada566 Posts
September 14 2010 13:36 GMT
#8
Another Canadian podcast about SC2? This warms my heart. I will check it out.
http://Zangano431.tumblr.com/
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 14 2010 13:41 GMT
#9
4/5 responses are from canada lol. Ill give the podcast a try
Meeprawr
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia13 Posts
September 14 2010 15:09 GMT
#10
I think you guys need a script, or to be in tune with each other if you are going for the impromptu route

"this is what you are going to cover"
"have you been following gomtv" "no..."

and prejudice should be left at the door, openly mentioning hatred of a player isnt too professional
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
September 14 2010 15:10 GMT
#11
good luck have batman
Kevmeister @ Dota2
MasterJack
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada215 Posts
September 14 2010 15:12 GMT
#12
giving it a try :D
Rope
Profile Joined April 2010
Ireland45 Posts
September 14 2010 15:25 GMT
#13
I listened to this and I'd definitely listen to more.
Fitzsimmons
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada36 Posts
September 14 2010 15:43 GMT
#14
On September 14 2010 15:16 Cedstick wrote:
AcrossFiveJulys, I believe I used the term properly The meta-game is the shift in popular strategy and common reactions to such as players disect a match-up and it's subtleties. This is one thing we discuss every episode during the last segment of the show (see: larvae management.)


No it isn't. That's why you're enraging people.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
September 14 2010 16:03 GMT
#15
On September 14 2010 15:16 Cedstick wrote:
the shift in popular strategy and common reactions to such as players disect a match-up and it's subtleties.

That's just tracking trends in strategy :o
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
September 14 2010 16:10 GMT
#16
On September 15 2010 01:03 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
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On September 14 2010 15:16 Cedstick wrote:
the shift in popular strategy and common reactions to such as players disect a match-up and it's subtleties.

That's just tracking trends in strategy :o

Lol.

I listened to the cast. it was okey but you guys need a bit more organization
Snowfield
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1289 Posts
September 14 2010 16:24 GMT
#17
Blatant misuse of the word meta, please fix.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
September 14 2010 16:51 GMT
#18
This meta-use of meta-game makes me meta-interested.
Moderator
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
September 14 2010 16:55 GMT
#19
On September 15 2010 01:51 Chill wrote:
This meta-use of meta-game makes me meta-interested.


I knew you'd make an appearance eventually :D seriously, metagame is a term that is so rarely correct to use, the general population would do well to forget it exists.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 14 2010 17:07 GMT
#20
Heh...I've stayed out of the debate around the term "metagame" but the thing is, if the majority of people start using the word to mean something different from what you think the "correct" meaning is, the meaning changes.

Unless you want to go back somehow to some "original" version of English where a large number of the words we use today have meanings that are wildly different from how they were originally used...
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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