The eSports Canada Podcast

Metagaming is a broad term usually used to define any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, or goes beyond the supposed limits or environment set by the game.

Another definition refers to the game universe outside of the game itself.

On October 15 2010 13:18 Bosu wrote:
Would be a better podcast if you didn't quote unit stats that are wrong :x

On September 15 2010 01:51 Chill wrote:
This meta-use of meta-game makes me meta-interested.

On October 20 2010 14:15 Cedstick wrote:
It is a little quiet relative to other computer sounds for me, such as youtube or -- what I'm watching right now -- the GSL, but not by much. I pushed up on my volume button twice to bring it up to where the other sounds were, so I'm not sure what the problem is. Are you getting this from iTunes?

On October 23 2010 09:07 FireZerg wrote:


I'm sure a lot of people would agree with you, but that doesn't make your opinion any more valid. Also, noboy said this was Blizzard's way of dealing with 'terrans abusing reapers', thought it does affect them.
The depot-before-rax change essentially makes zerg's 14hatch, and other more-eonomically focused variants, viable. This makes EVERYTHING zerg can do that much stronger and that much less risky, opening up its early game options, which was generally seen by top players (and Blizzard, apparently) as a problem. If we look at previous trends, Blizzard is clearly trying ot make more economic openers more viable for zergs: 5+ seconds to zealots build time, 5+ seconds to reaper build time. These units casued a lot of trouble for early expanding zers, and now they cause less. Looking at it as 'oh they don't want terrans abusing reapers, lol' is fascile.
It also allows zergs to overlord scout early on, which was widely being prevented by rax-before-depot openers. Finally, yes this patch restricts what you are allowed to do as a terran, but in practice it restricts cheesy bullshit that nobody particularly wanted to see in the first place, so who gives a flying fuck about that?
As a sidenote, though it was an important aspect of BW, tvz cheese operates differently in SC2 due to salvage, building's blocking mechanics and mules. Again, this is dealing with too much early pressre potential from terran at too low risk, not just 'reapers'. I don't have to tell you that though; I already said the the podcast. In turn, this change also opens up a whole matchup which was previously fairly narrowly defined.
If Blizzard and top players reached a concensus that 6 pools were skewing the cpmpetetive-level game in a direction they didn't like, and patched it so that you had to have 8 drones before you could pool, for example, the people complaining would be who..? The thousands of kids whose play revolved around getting out those zerglings ASAP for teh lols. We don't give a shit about them.
Maybe my reasons for liking that aspect of the patch aren't mainstream, but they aren't absurd; maybe you should do your homework. The game is balanced for the top 0.1% of players, not the bottom 99.9%.

On October 23 2010 10:38 FireZerg wrote:


I stopped reading after this (and I don't think you're close-minded). I could probably find you people in the top 0.1% who think that the moon is made out of cheese, but it wouldn't make my point any stronger. This is just about you listening to me (speaking from hundreds of replays/VOD's watched and hundreds of ladder matches played since the patch), or not, doesn't matter what you do on ladder, and I wasn't trying to imply that you were QQing cause your BBs doesn't work anymore.
Anyways, I only want the best for people who are concerned about the way the game will turn out, and the game from a spectators point of view is very important also, but I hope you'll see that I'm right, in the upcoming GSL, or in Dallas (or maybe you should watch the VOD's and download the replays from DC), or wherever else, that the game doesn't look or feel restricted in any way, and that this change is a net gain for tvz as a matchup, however easy it is to argue that 'blizzard is lazy, rofl, effortful thought proccess behind balanced changes plz!! PLZ!'

anyways at the end of the day, nobody gains or loses anything from being right or wrong on a forum or arguing until you win/lose whatever. all that matters is if you can snap necks on ladder and do well in tourneys =P.

On October 23 2010 12:55 Martyandborg wrote:
how come when i advertised my podcast here i got banned? I like your cast too but it's just unfair that I got banned. can any admins tell me why i got banned and this user didn't? I don't want him to get banned, i just don't think i should get banned for doing the same thing...

On November 05 2010 08:34 Cedstick wrote:
2v2 we-get-fucked match, gogogogo! lolz.

Tonight we'll will be recording our post-game analysis for the WEST vs EAST Canadian Grudge Match, podcast-style! We’ll have the regulars on, two of which, SCanemone and FireZerg, were competitors in the match, and a special guest, L2SC.net’s very own Joshua “Ic3d” Valouche, who casted and commentated the Show Matches. We will, of course, talk about the Show Matches, then cover the second “season” of the GomTV Star League and the results ’til now — we’re up to the semi-finals, guys, and getting close to another epic $87 500 set! We’ll touch on some hopeful future plans resulting from the show match, which will lead in to some lengthy discussion with Ic3d on the Canadian Starcraft scene and the Canada Cup.

We have some more awesome guests lined-up for the podcast — we’re starting to have to schedule guests almost a month in advance — so keep your eyes and ears open. Also, we still owe Edwin “k0re” Jung a podcast, as last week’s recorded file of our talks with him was, unfortunately, corrupted. We’ll have him on soon as a bonus podcast, though, to find out more about him and his awesome Starcraft online merchandise retailer, http://StarcraftMecca.net!

Last, but definitely not least: we’d like to hear from you! Let us know what you think of the podcast, let us know what you think of our coverage, let us know what you want to see on the site; just let us know! We’re slowly but surely expanding, and want to deliver some great content for everyone, Canadian and International, so don’t hesitate to drop us a line. You can contact myself, Cedstick, at cedriccook1@esportscanada.net, leave a comment on one of our news posts, or throw me a PM on Team Liquid.

On December 11 2010 01:27 Cedstick wrote:

I wouldn't D: They'd humiliate us -- literally, they'd go out of their way to pull the lamest shit on us just to laugh like they were wearing monocles.

... they probably are wearing monocles! BASTARDS.

On December 15 2010 15:48 Cedstick wrote:
Ok, after the new site is complete and rolling, we'll do a showmatch, DyEnasTy.

Ksyper, I'm workin' on it. I got the noise cleared-up this last podcast at least. Skype is fuckin' weird with Audio levels, though.

Going to be opening-up an e-mails section sometime soon, since after two weeks of life a podcast usually has five-hundred listens. I'll probably wait 'til after the website is done.

On September 17 2011 10:58 Cedstick wrote:
Thanks We're starting the pre-show a lot earlier to make sure things will work in the future so people don't have to wait after 8 in case we have problems.

We're hoping to do a live podcast after and from Barcraft Vancouver, with some neat ideas in store Also, as usual the show will resume this Monday at 8pm, of course! If you haven't already checked, the episode that "failed" last week DID get recorded and uploaded, although it is a tad short at just over 20 minutes. Still, we get some good discussion going on the Neural and other possible changes. We'll be revisiting the NEW neural changes this coming podcast, too, amongst other topics.