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ArtZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
49 Posts
October 02 2010 23:24 GMT
#1
My firend doesn't have account here but he would like to share his finding:

I've noticed a strange thing today. Looking at player Wiktor.199 (EU) match history I noticed that for about 5 hours (or even more) player played only vs one specific another player PoC (dont know id), and they got very fast much number of winning games and got random 1000 achi. It isn't possible to get a only one specific oponnet for hours! i've scanned for the match history and found 2 another players: BeeHive, Nerxedion. I will continue searching match history to find if there are some other players using this bug/exploit.


What you think? How do this players get matched only with each other for so long?
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
October 02 2010 23:25 GMT
#2
hacks maybe. ethier way its cheating and should be reported
Mutaahh
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands859 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 23:30:08
October 02 2010 23:29 GMT
#3
really, who gives a crap about people abusing the ladder.

It's way worse when you play vs someone that is cheating.... (maphack or something like that)

if players want to have a high rating just for the kicks, let them have their fun, it doesnt affect you anyway.
So ignore them please.

Hacks, that have an impact on your games, that are the ones you should post about
I want to fly
Amadi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland139 Posts
October 02 2010 23:29 GMT
#4
Are you certain they played ladder, and not custom games?

If so, they were cheating and will have to be punished. *readies his cheater whacking stick*
krecik88
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 23:32:26
October 02 2010 23:31 GMT
#5
I'm that player who had found this exploit, just registered while ago and i couldn't post a topic friend did that for me.

They were playing ladder games, for custom games there are no achivments for quick combat like this 1000 random
ChickenLips
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2912 Posts
October 02 2010 23:36 GMT
#6
who cares?

seriously. who cares if people use hacks to increase a number on a data server somewhere? they could just as well shit all over their living room carpet with a big banana grin on their face.
❤Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ✿
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#7
Like others have said, who cares about your ladder rank? it's all about tournaments. Personnally I don't mind players who cheat and exploit the game as long as I don't see them play in a tournament.
o choro é livre
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
October 02 2010 23:41 GMT
#8
On October 03 2010 08:36 ChickenLips wrote:
who cares?

seriously. who cares if people use hacks to increase a number on a data server somewhere? they could just as well shit all over their living room carpet with a big banana grin on their face.

It wouldn't matter at all, it's just ladder after all. Problem is Blizzard thinks ladder means something, as they're inviting people to Blizzcon based on it.
Tyler918273
Profile Joined September 2010
115 Posts
October 02 2010 23:43 GMT
#9
I remember a thread offering $2k to the first person to get 1k wins with t,p,z, and r. If this is abused for that, then it is of concern. That would be bs if someones (can't remember the poster) kind offer is taken advantage of in such a way. I have to find that thread and warn the op.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
October 02 2010 23:46 GMT
#10
He currently has 0 points in the copper league, so it doesn't seem like a big deal for me. If he were like 3000 in diamond then yea that'd be a big deal.

His accomplice is poc.176, who currently has 3 points in copper league. Basically their mmr is so low that's why they keep getting matched against each other.

http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/288079/Wiktor
http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/253101/PoC
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 02 2010 23:47 GMT
#11
abusing ladder is still cheating you know? even tho bronze or diamond
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
krecik88
Profile Joined October 2010
Poland2 Posts
October 02 2010 23:48 GMT
#12
Ya, this mean nothing for pr0 players and global fun of game, but this is still a exploit anyway. And blizzard should be aware that somekind shit of making fast achivments exsit.
I've found another person just a while ago.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
October 02 2010 23:48 GMT
#13
The only effects I could think of would be rankings like the "Blizzard Top 200", and other such things.

The only negative impact besides vanity listings would be for things that are based off of ladder rankings/points, like certain tournaments, or the invitations to Blizzcon.
you gotta dance
gun.slinger
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada258 Posts
October 02 2010 23:49 GMT
#14
You guys do realise that the kind of guy who abuse ladder is the same kind of player who will use maphack?

Ban the fuck out of 'em
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 23:50:02
October 02 2010 23:49 GMT
#15
When Blizzard is doing things like inviting people to Blizzcon due to ladder rankings and presumably using them to run their tourneys in the future, exploiting the ladder IS a big deal.
Dionyseus
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States2068 Posts
October 02 2010 23:50 GMT
#16
On October 03 2010 08:48 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
The only effects I could think of would be rankings like the "Blizzard Top 200", and other such things.

The only negative impact besides vanity listings would be for things that are based off of ladder rankings/points, like certain tournaments, or the invitations to Blizzcon.


That wouldn't be possible with this exploit as they have almost 0 points in the copper league.
9/5/10 P acct: NA D 10,683 651pts 69w56L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/290365/LetoAtreides T acct: NA D 16,137 553pts 70w67L http://sc2ranks.com/char/us/1560008/Khrone Z: NA G 16,058 465pts 28w26L http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1997354/Omnius
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
October 02 2010 23:50 GMT
#17
You can't mess up rankings if you are intentionally losing games so that you are 0 rated in bronze.
Biochemist
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1008 Posts
October 02 2010 23:53 GMT
#18
So basically they lost hundreds of games until their ladder ranking was far, far below anyone else's, and then win traded with each other for 5 hours until both had 1000 random wins?

Seems pretty harmless to me, since they're still at the bottom of the ladder and aren't getting invited to blizzcon anytime soon.
Uriel_SVK
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovakia427 Posts
October 03 2010 00:02 GMT
#19
On October 03 2010 08:53 Biochemist wrote:
So basically they lost hundreds of games until their ladder ranking was far, far below anyone else's, and then win traded with each other for 5 hours until both had 1000 random wins?

Seems pretty harmless to me, since they're still at the bottom of the ladder and aren't getting invited to blizzcon anytime soon.


This

After seeing Wiktors achievements, I assume he is just an achievement whore and he would like to get all the achievement, and get it as fast as possible. If he foud a hole in ladder system that allows him to get games with his friend and Win trade at the last place in bronze league, good for him...

TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 03 2010 00:04 GMT
#20
On October 03 2010 08:43 Tyler918273 wrote:
I remember a thread offering $2k to the first person to get 1k wins with t,p,z, and r. If this is abused for that, then it is of concern. That would be bs if someones (can't remember the poster) kind offer is taken advantage of in such a way. I have to find that thread and warn the op.

Except the challenge already has a requirement to provide all the replays and an arbitrary requirement for a majority of games being "standard". This wouldn't meet the conditions of that thread to begin with.
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