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Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
January 22 2012 16:22 GMT
#41
So many bad posts in this thread already.

RIP joepa, you were a great man that had his rep. ruined by the Sandusky scandal.
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iamonaboat
Profile Joined September 2010
United States25 Posts
January 22 2012 16:23 GMT
#42
Just to give an idea about how popular "college" football is in the US, it makes billions of dollars a year, there are multiple stadiums that seat 80,000+ people and each of those are filled up every Saturday. It makes more money than any other sport except pro football (in the US though i would venture to say it makes more money than any professional soccer league as well)

Either way his death is a big deal considering his involvement in the Penn State disaster, and whatever his role and no matter what he could or could not have done differently his death is sad.
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Vegalive
Profile Joined November 2010
United States96 Posts
January 22 2012 16:23 GMT
#43
On January 23 2012 01:17 KalWarkov wrote:
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On January 23 2012 00:56 shizna wrote:
never heard of him, so i looked on google.

didn't recognise him by looks, so i read about him...

coach of 'penn state', never heard of it.


presumably some kind of obscure sports coach died of natural causes at the ripe age of 85.

at the risk of sounding insensitive, is this 'news' ? because it certainly doesn't make interesting discussion.


i somehow agree to this.


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On January 23 2012 01:02 Kiyo. wrote:

at the risk of sounding insensitive, is this 'news' ? because it certainly doesn't make interesting discussion.


Was probably one of the top 5 most famous college football coaches ever. He coached the same team for 46 years and was consistently near the top.



is college football any popular besides colleges in the US? this confuses me somehow, why is something popular when its not "pro"?


€: and as i read here he supported childrape somewhat. my sadness level fell from 0 to -1[/QUOTE]


So someone who you don't know died and that makes it unimportant? He is very well known in America and college football is probably equally as popular as the NFL, MLB, and NBA and more popular than the NHL. You have no clue what you are talking about. Joe Pa was one of the most famous and respected college football coaches of all time. Just because someone who is not known internationally dies doesn't mean you come and here and say "SO WHAT WHO CARES". Just shutup if you don't know him.

RIP Joe Pa
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
January 22 2012 16:23 GMT
#44
On January 23 2012 01:21 don_kyuhote wrote:
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On January 23 2012 01:17 KalWarkov wrote:


is college football any popular besides colleges in the US? this confuses me somehow, why is something popular when its not "pro"?

College football is the 2nd religion in some parts of US.
It's big deal.
Some college have over 100,000 people in the stadium during game day.
Now thats more than what Real Madrid vs. Barcelona would bring.

source? i know college football is big but bigger then Madrid vs Barcelona ? i have my doubts.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
January 22 2012 16:24 GMT
#45
RIP, great guy.
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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 22 2012 16:24 GMT
#46
"nil nisi bonum"

The man lived a long life and contributed much to a community, a university and the lives of thousands of student.

His role in a scandal has not been determined. Have some class.

Detrimentally
Profile Joined June 2011
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:25:36
January 22 2012 16:24 GMT
#47
On January 23 2012 01:22 Steelavocado wrote:
So many bad posts in this thread already.

RIP joepa, you were a great man that had his rep. ruined by the Sandusky scandal.


A great man that condoned and allowed child molestation to go on in his program.


In fact, anyone who says he is anything short of an awful human being condones child molestation. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 22 2012 16:25 GMT
#48
RIP men make mistakes but this is still tragic. I can't help thinking the stress of another man's disgusting actions and the unfair amount of stress he put on those close to him did nothing but to hasten Joe Pa's death. RIP Joe Pa.

Jerry Sandusky I hate you even more now.

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llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
January 22 2012 16:25 GMT
#49
On January 23 2012 01:16 l00l wrote:
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On January 23 2012 01:12 Nizaris wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:57 Lebzetu wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:48 big_boat wrote:
Extremely glad he's gone. Call him a legend all you want, but he was a horrible person.

Wtf

He wasn't the one who molested kids, was he?
That was Sandusky.

but he was the one who let it continue for years. He was equally guilty.

last time i checked, none of the victims were murdered and easily could've told people about said abuse but none of them did, does this make them guilty of causing harm to others?

Yeah, like they would embarass themselves like that
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:29:07
January 22 2012 16:25 GMT
#50
Joe Paterno did everything he needed to and reported the incident if nothing was done to the coach why would he think different? I don't understand the logic of some people he did what he was required and told to do nothing more and it'd be handled. He was a great coach and great man making college football what it is today RIP he deserves that at least.


On January 23 2012 01:23 Nizaris wrote:

source? i know college football is big but bigger then Madrid vs Barcelona ? i have my doubts.


Louisiana State University regularly accommodates 91k-99k depending on game and colleges like Ohio State fits 102k. The national championship this year for the NCAA had 90k+ in stadium and millions on TV. Google is your friend.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 22 2012 16:27 GMT
#51
On January 23 2012 01:16 -stOpSKY- wrote:
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On January 23 2012 01:12 PassiveAce wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:04 -stOpSKY- wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:53 PassiveAce wrote:
RIP
dont talk shit about the dead please.


Im not defending talking shit about him but lets just say someone was a prick before they died... does that make them less of a prick after they are dead? I dont understand this whole "dont talk shit about people who have died."

Btw RIP joepa.

Im not saying that it is not ok to call and evil person evil just because hes dead (I am not talking about Paterno here). Im just saying this guy died like a couple hours ago and I dont want this thread to be shitted up with people angry over the scandal before his death, its off topic, not to mention exceptionally rude to discuss something like that so shortly after his death.


Ok so now its not a discussion of whether or not is ok to call someone evil after they are dead but a discussion of how long to wait? That just seems ridiculous.

Let people speak their mind and if they disliked him as a person allow them to express that in what I hope would be a tasteful manner. I dont see what is so wrong about that.

Is it really so much to ask to not post negativity in a obituary thread? Really?
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Detrimentally
Profile Joined June 2011
United States78 Posts
January 22 2012 16:28 GMT
#52
On January 23 2012 01:27 PassiveAce wrote:
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On January 23 2012 01:16 -stOpSKY- wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:12 PassiveAce wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:04 -stOpSKY- wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:53 PassiveAce wrote:
RIP
dont talk shit about the dead please.


Im not defending talking shit about him but lets just say someone was a prick before they died... does that make them less of a prick after they are dead? I dont understand this whole "dont talk shit about people who have died."

Btw RIP joepa.

Im not saying that it is not ok to call and evil person evil just because hes dead (I am not talking about Paterno here). Im just saying this guy died like a couple hours ago and I dont want this thread to be shitted up with people angry over the scandal before his death, its off topic, not to mention exceptionally rude to discuss something like that so shortly after his death.


Ok so now its not a discussion of whether or not is ok to call someone evil after they are dead but a discussion of how long to wait? That just seems ridiculous.

Let people speak their mind and if they disliked him as a person allow them to express that in what I hope would be a tasteful manner. I dont see what is so wrong about that.

Is it really so much to ask to not post negativity in a obituary thread? Really?

He was a scumbag and doesn't even deserve this thread.

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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:30:08
January 22 2012 16:28 GMT
#53
It really is amazing how things can change. Decades of deep respect and admiration, then in his last 3 months it all fell apart. Pretty crazy story.
iamonaboat
Profile Joined September 2010
United States25 Posts
January 22 2012 16:29 GMT
#54
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2009/07/how-much-revenue-did-your-favorite-fbs-school-take-in-in-200708-this-chart-will-tell-you.html

Here is a link to some numbers for revenue for 2007-2008 to give you an idea on how much money this sport makes. With that i will conclude my posting in this thread.

I never did like Penn State but it is always sad to see somebody whom shaped an entire university die, it will be the close to the very sad chapter in college football history.
plat noob
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
January 22 2012 16:30 GMT
#55
On January 23 2012 01:28 DannyJ wrote:
It really is amazing how things can change. 85 years of deep respect and admiration, then in his last 3 months it all fell apart. Pretty crazy story.

Write a book.
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
Dispersion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Korea (South)504 Posts
January 22 2012 16:30 GMT
#56
On January 23 2012 01:23 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:21 don_kyuhote wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:17 KalWarkov wrote:


is college football any popular besides colleges in the US? this confuses me somehow, why is something popular when its not "pro"?

College football is the 2nd religion in some parts of US.
It's big deal.
Some college have over 100,000 people in the stadium during game day.
Now thats more than what Real Madrid vs. Barcelona would bring.

source? i know college football is big but bigger then Madrid vs Barcelona ? i have my doubts.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_Bernabéu_Stadium

Capacity - 85,454

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Stadium

Capacity - 109,901

Record attendance - 114k+
Don't worry. Taht's just Halo
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:32:54
January 22 2012 16:30 GMT
#57
On January 23 2012 01:16 Omsomsoms wrote:
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On January 23 2012 01:11 Hawk wrote:
Such a shame. I wanted him to go to Sandusky's trial and be shown for the sorry little rape agologist/enabler he is.

"Paterno’s portrait of himself is of an old-world man profoundly confused by what McQueary told him, and who was hesitant to make follow-up calls because he did not want to be seen as trying to exert any influence for or against Sandusky. “I didn’t know which way to go,” he said. “And rather than get in there and make a mistake . . .”

He reiterated that McQueary was unclear with him about the nature of what he saw — and added that even if McQueary had been more graphic, he’s not sure he would have comprehended it.

“You know, he didn’t want to get specific,” Paterno said. “And to be frank with you I don’t know that it would have done any good, because I never heard of, of, rape and a man."


Yeah, fuck him and fuck those horseshit quotes. His legacy is gonna be remembered for what he didn't do in this situation, as it should.


Wow. I haven't really read much about the whole Penn State molestation, but Paterno sounds like he deserved absolutely whatever he got, facilitating and enabling the things he did, and I don't know what to say toward the people who support him based solely upon his football reputation.


Just the tip of the iceberg. If you read up on deadspin, they pulled together all of the stories from the outlets that show just how deep this rabbit hole goes. Like, he had known since 2002 for sure (more like 1999 though when Sandusky retired after being investigated) and still attended charity events for CHILDREN on behalf of Sandusky, didnt say anything when Sandusky was on campus with kids, etc etc

The whole thing is sick and shows just how much we as society value FOOBAW WINS over anything else.

It really can't be said enough: Short of actually raping the kids like Sandusky did, Paterno is the #1 person who enabled this by not doing more, even if he legally wasn't responsible. THat's something you expect out of the dude who fashionedh imself as the most morally upright man in sports.

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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 16:38:39
January 22 2012 16:35 GMT
#58
On January 23 2012 01:19 Dispersion wrote:
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On January 23 2012 00:48 big_boat wrote:
Extremely glad he's gone. Call him a legend all you want, but he was a horrible person.


Get out. This man made Penn State what it is. RIP

Because college football is more important that getting justice for rape victims? Disgusting....

Rip Joe, but there is no sadnes in my heart for you
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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
January 22 2012 16:35 GMT
#59
On January 23 2012 01:23 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:21 don_kyuhote wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:17 KalWarkov wrote:


is college football any popular besides colleges in the US? this confuses me somehow, why is something popular when its not "pro"?

College football is the 2nd religion in some parts of US.
It's big deal.
Some college have over 100,000 people in the stadium during game day.
Now thats more than what Real Madrid vs. Barcelona would bring.

source? i know college football is big but bigger then Madrid vs Barcelona ? i have my doubts.

Just to give a perspective.
Madrid and Barcelona are professional clubs and they have stadiums size of 85,000 and 99,000ish seats.
There are 9 US colleges with 80,000+, 5 colleges with 90,000+, and 6 colleges with stadiums of 100,000+ and they do regularly fill out in important games.
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Dispersion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Korea (South)504 Posts
January 22 2012 16:37 GMT
#60
On January 23 2012 01:35 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 01:19 Dispersion wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:48 big_boat wrote:
Extremely glad he's gone. Call him a legend all you want, but he was a horrible person.


Get out. This man made Penn State what it is. RIP

Because college football is more important that getting justice fortape victims? Disturbing....

Rip Joe, but there is no sadnes in my heart for you


Men make mistakes. This isn't his legacy. His decades at Penn State are his legacy. He won the most college football games in history. The victims will get justice, but let the people who knew of him before the Sandusky scandal have their time. Seriously...this shouldn't even have to be said.
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