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yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
September 01 2010 09:16 GMT
#21
Live stream ticket is $20 / season. VODs $30 / season. Each season is a month right?
Footymd
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada105 Posts
September 01 2010 09:17 GMT
#22
Too the people that don't understand how marketing works or how to run a business, If they are unable to get Sponsors to cover any fee's, they have to get the money from somewhere. So of course the first few streams may have a fee but once they can show that it will be popular and companies can gain quite a bit from sponsoring the events. then There is a possibility that there wont be a fee any more.

Give Sc2 some time to grow, GOMTV is taking the right steps, we just need to support them so that Sc2 can grow and really, you wouldn't pay a couple bucks to watch the top players play?

blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 01 2010 09:18 GMT
#23
On September 01 2010 18:17 Footymd wrote:
Too the people that don't understand how marketing works or how to run a business, If they are unable to get Sponsors to cover any fee's, they have to get the money from somewhere. So of course the first few streams may have a fee but once they can show that it will be popular and companies can gain quite a bit from sponsoring the events. then There is a possibility that there wont be a fee any more.

Give Sc2 some time to grow, GOMTV is taking the right steps, we just need to support them so that Sc2 can grow and really, you wouldn't pay a couple bucks to watch the top players play?


oh of course because the TG-Intel Starcraft II Open CLEARLY has no sponsor. They just added the TG-Intel on there just for kicks.
blabberrrrr
Footymd
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada105 Posts
September 01 2010 09:19 GMT
#24
On September 01 2010 18:18 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 18:17 Footymd wrote:
Too the people that don't understand how marketing works or how to run a business, If they are unable to get Sponsors to cover any fee's, they have to get the money from somewhere. So of course the first few streams may have a fee but once they can show that it will be popular and companies can gain quite a bit from sponsoring the events. then There is a possibility that there wont be a fee any more.

Give Sc2 some time to grow, GOMTV is taking the right steps, we just need to support them so that Sc2 can grow and really, you wouldn't pay a couple bucks to watch the top players play?


oh of course because the TG-Intel Starcraft II Open CLEARLY has no sponsor. They just added the TG-Intel on there just for kicks.



Clearly not enough to cover all the cost. The reason why stuff like the MSL/OSL are free, is because the are a ton of sponsors or a one major sponsor.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 09:21:28
September 01 2010 09:19 GMT
#25
Limiting your userbase to only the hardcore fans who will be paying for the stream will be detrimental in the long run. A large part of the first tournaments audience consisted of people who hadn't even heard of Brood War progaming before the tournament, the streams spread around the internet and people become aware of StarCraft and thus the community grew as did the amount of spectators you got.

Ah well, I am sure you're aware of all the pros and cons of the road you took and made a well calculated choice.
On September 01 2010 18:16 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
Live stream ticket is $20 / season. VODs $30 / season. Each season is a month right?

Seriously? No GSL for me then. =(
GOMTV
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)84 Posts
September 01 2010 09:20 GMT
#26
I appreciate your fast feedbacks, but like I said, complaining here will not help.
There is a Forum at www.gomtv.net if you press league on the menu
GSL - gomtv.net
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
September 01 2010 09:21 GMT
#27
Am very disappointed after reading this. Was really looking forward to watching the matches. But oh well.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Fen-X
Profile Joined April 2010
France18 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 09:22:25
September 01 2010 09:21 GMT
#28
If you buy a $20 live season ticket, you have to buy a $30 vod season ticket if you want to see a game again (or if you missed one)? That's a bit expensive in my opinion. Shouldn't you create a "all services" ticket, including both live and VOD, for a better price than $50?
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 01 2010 09:21 GMT
#29
On September 01 2010 18:19 Footymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 18:18 blabber wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:17 Footymd wrote:
Too the people that don't understand how marketing works or how to run a business, If they are unable to get Sponsors to cover any fee's, they have to get the money from somewhere. So of course the first few streams may have a fee but once they can show that it will be popular and companies can gain quite a bit from sponsoring the events. then There is a possibility that there wont be a fee any more.

Give Sc2 some time to grow, GOMTV is taking the right steps, we just need to support them so that Sc2 can grow and really, you wouldn't pay a couple bucks to watch the top players play?


oh of course because the TG-Intel Starcraft II Open CLEARLY has no sponsor. They just added the TG-Intel on there just for kicks.



Clearly not enough to cover all the cost. The reason why stuff like the MSL/OSL are free, is because the are a ton of sponsors or a one major sponsor.

you're probably too new to have seen the Gomtv Classics... which had 3 full seasons... with FREE streams...
blabberrrrr
IdontcareaboutGSL
Profile Joined September 2010
1 Post
September 01 2010 09:21 GMT
#30
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Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
September 01 2010 09:22 GMT
#31
On September 01 2010 18:19 Puosu wrote:
Limiting your userbase to only the hardcore fans who will be paying for the stream will be detrimental in the long run. A large part of the first tournaments audience consisted of people who hadn't even heard of Brood War progaming before the tournament, the streams spread around the internet and people become aware of StarCraft and thus the community grew as did the amount of spectators you got.

Ah well, I am sure you're aware of all the pros and cons of the road you took and made a well calculated choice.



Exactly, sigh...
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hoopaholik91
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30 Posts
September 01 2010 09:22 GMT
#32
On September 01 2010 18:17 Footymd wrote:
Too the people that don't understand how marketing works or how to run a business, If they are unable to get Sponsors to cover any fee's, they have to get the money from somewhere. So of course the first few streams may have a fee but once they can show that it will be popular and companies can gain quite a bit from sponsoring the events. then There is a possibility that there wont be a fee any more.

Give Sc2 some time to grow, GOMTV is taking the right steps, we just need to support them so that Sc2 can grow and really, you wouldn't pay a couple bucks to watch the top players play?



Maybe if something like this was done before, but the fact is a lot of people will not want to pay 20 bucks to watch live videos at 4 in the morning or 30 to watch games that have already happened. MLG was free, IEM was free, and those got huge audiences. I think it would have been much better if they reduced the prize pool by $40,000 and made the stream free, it would still generate as much buzz about Starcraft. But maybe they think they can make a lot of money by charging in Korea or something like that.
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
September 01 2010 09:23 GMT
#33
Yeah, Gom, I mean I like to think we'll stay close after this, but I don't think this will work out.
(-_(-_(-_(^_(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-) CJ Fighting! "Beer -> soju -> whisky is a terrible build"~~ Scrarecrow.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
September 01 2010 09:23 GMT
#34
Is it okay to blame Activision?
blabberrrrr
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 01 2010 09:24 GMT
#35
If games are being played in korea, its pretty useless to offer westerners a live ticket as most of them won't even be awake to view the matches. They'd need to buy the more expensive VOD ticket and thus have zero hopes of ever catching a live series.
starleague forever
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
September 01 2010 09:24 GMT
#36
what a shame... i just lost all the interest in GSL after reading this..
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Footymd
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada105 Posts
September 01 2010 09:24 GMT
#37
On September 01 2010 18:21 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 18:19 Footymd wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:18 blabber wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:17 Footymd wrote:
Too the people that don't understand how marketing works or how to run a business, If they are unable to get Sponsors to cover any fee's, they have to get the money from somewhere. So of course the first few streams may have a fee but once they can show that it will be popular and companies can gain quite a bit from sponsoring the events. then There is a possibility that there wont be a fee any more.

Give Sc2 some time to grow, GOMTV is taking the right steps, we just need to support them so that Sc2 can grow and really, you wouldn't pay a couple bucks to watch the top players play?


oh of course because the TG-Intel Starcraft II Open CLEARLY has no sponsor. They just added the TG-Intel on there just for kicks.



Clearly not enough to cover all the cost. The reason why stuff like the MSL/OSL are free, is because the are a ton of sponsors or a one major sponsor.

you're probably too new to have seen the Gomtv Classics... which had 3 full seasons... with FREE streams...


Clearly you're to dumb to relize that they when bankrupt after those FREE seasons.
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 09:27:18
September 01 2010 09:26 GMT
#38
On September 01 2010 18:24 Footymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 18:21 blabber wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:19 Footymd wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:18 blabber wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:17 Footymd wrote:
Too the people that don't understand how marketing works or how to run a business, If they are unable to get Sponsors to cover any fee's, they have to get the money from somewhere. So of course the first few streams may have a fee but once they can show that it will be popular and companies can gain quite a bit from sponsoring the events. then There is a possibility that there wont be a fee any more.

Give Sc2 some time to grow, GOMTV is taking the right steps, we just need to support them so that Sc2 can grow and really, you wouldn't pay a couple bucks to watch the top players play?


oh of course because the TG-Intel Starcraft II Open CLEARLY has no sponsor. They just added the TG-Intel on there just for kicks.



Clearly not enough to cover all the cost. The reason why stuff like the MSL/OSL are free, is because the are a ton of sponsors or a one major sponsor.

you're probably too new to have seen the Gomtv Classics... which had 3 full seasons... with FREE streams...


Clearly you're to dumb to relize that they when bankrupt after those FREE seasons.


Where are you pulling all this data from, except from assumptions and insults? All the replies sofar have been facts that have happened in the previous seasons.
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
September 01 2010 09:26 GMT
#39
On September 01 2010 18:24 Footymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 18:21 blabber wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:19 Footymd wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:18 blabber wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:17 Footymd wrote:
Too the people that don't understand how marketing works or how to run a business, If they are unable to get Sponsors to cover any fee's, they have to get the money from somewhere. So of course the first few streams may have a fee but once they can show that it will be popular and companies can gain quite a bit from sponsoring the events. then There is a possibility that there wont be a fee any more.

Give Sc2 some time to grow, GOMTV is taking the right steps, we just need to support them so that Sc2 can grow and really, you wouldn't pay a couple bucks to watch the top players play?


oh of course because the TG-Intel Starcraft II Open CLEARLY has no sponsor. They just added the TG-Intel on there just for kicks.



Clearly not enough to cover all the cost. The reason why stuff like the MSL/OSL are free, is because the are a ton of sponsors or a one major sponsor.

you're probably too new to have seen the Gomtv Classics... which had 3 full seasons... with FREE streams...


Clearly you're to dumb to relize that they when bankrupt after those FREE seasons.


They didn't go bankrupt, KeSPA forced all progamers to quit and then noone played. So, there was no point to the league afterwards.
hohoho
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
September 01 2010 09:26 GMT
#40
On September 01 2010 18:20 GOMTV wrote:
I appreciate your fast feedbacks, but like I said, complaining here will not help.
There is a Forum at www.gomtv.net if you press league on the menu


Maybe he is right, we should all complain on their forums instead of here. Need to register though.

I can't tell if GOMTV is the guy in charge making the decisions (in which case complaining on their forums is useless), or the middleman (in which case he can then show all our complaints to whoever is in charge).
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