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CebusFinest
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines210 Posts
September 01 2010 09:27 GMT
#41
ahwww... this is horrible... what a sad news... =(
10 years since...
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 09:29:05
September 01 2010 09:28 GMT
#42
Will this stream be better then the GOMTV SCBW stream? Not only in quality but also in stability. If i remember correctly that stream was quite unstable and sometimes it just did not even work. If i pay for a stream, i atleast want to watch it all the time...

And for poor university students just chill, there probably be one thousand youtube vods of the games and streamers at ustream and livestream will probably stream it live as well so it dont think it will be too difficult to get GSL matches for free...
Gör om, gör rätt
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 09:29:47
September 01 2010 09:29 GMT
#43
On September 01 2010 18:28 JoxxOr wrote:
Will this stream be better then the GOMTV SCBW stream? Not only in quality but also in stability. If i remember correctly that stream was quite unstable and sometimes it just did not even work. If i pay for a stream, i atleast want to watch it all the time...

And for poor university students just chill, there probably be one thousand youtube vods of the games and streamers at ustream and livestream will probably stream it live as well...

yes IIRC even the paid stream had problems during the BW tourneys...

but this time I around, I expect little to no problems because they're sure as hell not going to have to deal with too many people watching!
blabberrrrr
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
September 01 2010 09:29 GMT
#44
So, we are paying to see semi-profesional gaming, because its not a Flash vs JaeDong or similar, just a bunch of known guys (Idra, Artosis, Iron, Focus) with tons of newcoming players we dont know if we will enjoy their games

So sad..
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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 01 2010 09:30 GMT
#45
your terms of services are quite opaque, just a few examples:

Effect of and changes to the Terms of Service
5. Gretech reserves the right, at our sole discretion, to change, modify, add, or delete portions of these Terms of Service at any time without further notice. It will be regarded that the user has agreed to the revised Terms of Service if he or she continues to use the services after the applied date of the revised Terms of Service.

I'm not familiar with korean law, but this should enable you to change the contract "after" it has been concluded, even without further notice; "highly" illegal under european law, violates basic law of contract which says that consensus is needed BEFOR the contract; no party has the right to amend the contract afterwards at its own discretion - never; I highly doubt this would be possible in korea

Billing and Refund
"4. Season VOD ticket may be effective during 'Season' and holdback period. Holdback period may be subject to change."

effecitvely you try to stipulate that you can determine the availability of VODs at your own discretion; in europe that's illegal because it lacks transparancy; the user must know beforehand the service which will be provided; the amount of time is extremely important here

[...]

"14. If there are special circumstances where Gretech determines it is appropriate (e.g., GOMtv VOD and/or Live service is unavailable for few days due to technical difficulties), we may provide credits to affected members.
15. The amount and form of such credits, and the decision to provide them, are at Gretech's sole discretion, and the provision of credits in one instance does not entitle anyone to credits in the future under similar or different circumstances."

so this is saying if your stream doesn't work the user has no "right" to claim a refund; again, would be illegal under european law
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Faranth
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
933 Posts
September 01 2010 09:31 GMT
#46
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cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
September 01 2010 09:31 GMT
#47
wait... i have to buy 2 tickets... 1 for live and 1 for VOD? why not offer a ticket for both which is a bit cheaper :/?
Tyxiquale
Profile Joined September 2008
Australia424 Posts
September 01 2010 09:31 GMT
#48
Er.. fail... MASSIVE fail..

if you go and watch the 2nd vod - opening ceremony trailer, 7 seconds in, the screen says, "Total Prize money is $17,000"

nice well done GomTV.. that's a massive prize pool
Dumb people don't know that they're dumb.
Footymd
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada105 Posts
September 01 2010 09:31 GMT
#49
On September 01 2010 18:26 banana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 18:24 Footymd wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:21 blabber wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:19 Footymd wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:18 blabber wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:17 Footymd wrote:
Too the people that don't understand how marketing works or how to run a business, If they are unable to get Sponsors to cover any fee's, they have to get the money from somewhere. So of course the first few streams may have a fee but once they can show that it will be popular and companies can gain quite a bit from sponsoring the events. then There is a possibility that there wont be a fee any more.

Give Sc2 some time to grow, GOMTV is taking the right steps, we just need to support them so that Sc2 can grow and really, you wouldn't pay a couple bucks to watch the top players play?


oh of course because the TG-Intel Starcraft II Open CLEARLY has no sponsor. They just added the TG-Intel on there just for kicks.



Clearly not enough to cover all the cost. The reason why stuff like the MSL/OSL are free, is because the are a ton of sponsors or a one major sponsor.

you're probably too new to have seen the Gomtv Classics... which had 3 full seasons... with FREE streams...


Clearly you're to dumb to relize that they when bankrupt after those FREE seasons.


Where are you pulling all this data from, except from assumptions and insults? All the replies sofar have been facts that have happened in the previous seasons.


This is a reply to you and the poster below you. Yes they did go bankrupt because of Kespa pulling their players. This isn't something i am making up feel free to go look it up. regardless i think its stupid that every one is shitting dicks about having to spend money to watch starcraft 2 games. Like GomTV said if you don't like it that much go post on their feedback section of their website, bitching on TL wont do any thing.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
September 01 2010 09:32 GMT
#50
Way to go Starcraft 2, if GSL won't have free streams in the future it'll be really bad for the community and the development of SC2 -,-

I hope they change their minds lol.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Juxx
Profile Joined April 2010
325 Posts
September 01 2010 09:33 GMT
#51
Will they at least release the replays for download?
Grubby Fighting!
BumsenDK
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark137 Posts
September 01 2010 09:33 GMT
#52
im disappointed in gom, was so happy at first when they announced gom as partners but now i see evil has a twin ..
anyways, im not gonna pay to watch it. and certainly not gonna pay to see vod after.
disappointment hurts
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
September 01 2010 09:35 GMT
#53
Isn't OGN going to be showing the GSL? We can just watch that. It's not Tasteless and Artosis, but still
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51644 Posts
September 01 2010 09:35 GMT
#54
going to just watch on ogn. i can live without tasteless and artosis.
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CebusFinest
Profile Joined August 2010
Philippines210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 09:39:03
September 01 2010 09:38 GMT
#55
Its gonna be the BIGGEST SC2 tournament of the year!... biggest fail that is...
10 years since...
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
September 01 2010 09:40 GMT
#56
as far as we know isn't this broadcasted on OGN like GTR says ?
And we all know there are some streams from users on OGN so there is no problem since you can still indirectly watch the games although without english commentary and with korean commentary.
Basically we're watching like scbw streams of OSL/MSL games which I never see anyone having a problem with.

Then people shouldn't complain about gomtv demanding tickets/fees for their streams so you can watch english commentated games. It's their business and they payed blizzard a summ amount and they have a large prize pool which does mean you'll need to cover your expenses with sponsors and other things (in this case other things is paid streams among others).
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Nu11
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada167 Posts
September 01 2010 09:41 GMT
#57
I knew GomTV would mess this up somehow. Oh well. Lots of other tournaments to watch.
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
September 01 2010 09:41 GMT
#58
On September 01 2010 18:35 GTR wrote:
going to just watch on ogn. i can live without tasteless and artosis.

Yeah, it'd be nice, but I don't care enough.
(-_(-_(-_(^_(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-) CJ Fighting! "Beer -> soju -> whisky is a terrible build"~~ Scrarecrow.
Ashworth
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom185 Posts
September 01 2010 09:42 GMT
#59
This is a big blow for starcraft 2. I will watch if someone restreams for free.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51644 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 09:43:52
September 01 2010 09:42 GMT
#60
On September 01 2010 18:31 Footymd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 18:26 banana wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:24 Footymd wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:21 blabber wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:19 Footymd wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:18 blabber wrote:
On September 01 2010 18:17 Footymd wrote:
Too the people that don't understand how marketing works or how to run a business, If they are unable to get Sponsors to cover any fee's, they have to get the money from somewhere. So of course the first few streams may have a fee but once they can show that it will be popular and companies can gain quite a bit from sponsoring the events. then There is a possibility that there wont be a fee any more.

Give Sc2 some time to grow, GOMTV is taking the right steps, we just need to support them so that Sc2 can grow and really, you wouldn't pay a couple bucks to watch the top players play?


oh of course because the TG-Intel Starcraft II Open CLEARLY has no sponsor. They just added the TG-Intel on there just for kicks.



Clearly not enough to cover all the cost. The reason why stuff like the MSL/OSL are free, is because the are a ton of sponsors or a one major sponsor.

you're probably too new to have seen the Gomtv Classics... which had 3 full seasons... with FREE streams...


Clearly you're to dumb to relize that they when bankrupt after those FREE seasons.


Where are you pulling all this data from, except from assumptions and insults? All the replies sofar have been facts that have happened in the previous seasons.


This is a reply to you and the poster below you. Yes they did go bankrupt because of Kespa pulling their players. This isn't something i am making up feel free to go look it up. regardless i think its stupid that every one is shitting dicks about having to spend money to watch starcraft 2 games. Like GomTV said if you don't like it that much go post on their feedback section of their website, bitching on TL wont do any thing.


Gretech have been running billions of non-Starcraft tournaments after the Classic. Don't pull random terms out of your ass.
Unfortunately the Korean's will get the stream for free, and those with OGN on their TV will be able to catch it, so in my opinion, it's just a way to monopolize on a vulnerable audience who feel a necessity for English content.
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