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On September 13 2012 03:29 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 03:28 kollin wrote:
What was the general gist of lyerbeth's post? Unless the ban reason got edited, it's summed up in there.
Iyerbeth was just temp banned for 2 days by KwarK.
That account was created on 2010-10-30 00:03:35 and had 1849 posts.
Reason: I like you but going "multikill!" at a ban streak for people being ridiculously insensitive after multiple killings, are you kidding me? Context matters.
i find it hilarious but yeah it's a bit innapropriate.
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Fairly sure he didn't do that purposely, though I could be wrong. After all he did ask for it to be edited.
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On September 13 2012 03:18 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 03:12 nonsequitur wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Not sure if this is the place to discuss it, but I really don't feel Belial88 deserved to get banned. Although he has a rather blunt approach, I've found him to be quite a valuable poster. He has written a few guides like his zvp and zvt ones that have helped me immensely.
He also contributes quite a lot to the discussions in the "zerg help me thread" with his many questions and replay critiques. Speaking of critiques, he is one of the few who makes the effort to watch the replays people post and give really detailed analysis. Anyone who is making such a big effort to help others improve should not be punished for it I think. Those who find him to be too abrasive can always choose to ignore his advice.
If I were to be the one posting replays asking for help, I would much rather read his harsh criticsm and have clear ideas of what I need to be doing to improive, than to read half a page of replies from people who haven't watch the replay and gives really generic answers like "make more zerglings and try to flank".
I honestly believe Belial88 is valuable poster who has a net positive influence on the strategy forum and should not be banned for trying to be helpful.
Just my two cents if any mods decides to read this. That belongs in feedback, FYI. For perspective... His HistoryAnd some real gems... + Show Spoiler +On June 06 2012 05:35 Belial88 wrote:
Not every processor is heat limited. You should test out overclocking before buying a new heatsink, as the overwhelming majority of motherboard blow-ups occur because people change from stock heatsinks to tower heatsinks. Motherboards are rated for stock, radial heatsinks that apply cooling to not just the CPU, but the whole board, while tower heatsinks ONLY cool the CPU, so you will get a rise (often deadly rise) in the CPU NB, RAM, and most importantly, the VRM.
I have a GTX 460, 4GB RAM, and Athlon II X3 3.2ghz (overclocked/unlocked to x4 3.4 ghz). I'm able to stream medium graphics SC2 just fine (check my recordings at justin.tv/belial88), and I could probably stream ultra but just haven't tested that yet. I can play on Ultra settings just fine as well. My resolution is 1280x768.
sc2 is cpu dependent, but the graphics are gpu dependent. As in, it's mostly your GPU that determines if your system that can play on medium, can play on Ultra. But CPU allows an increase in fps no matter what graphics setting you are at, as sc2 is extremely cpu dependent. Put simply, SC2 is very cpu dependent and always appreciates more processing, but things like shaders, lighting, texturing... that's all done by the GPU.
User was warned for BAD ADVICE On March 31 2011 02:43 Belial88 wrote:^ he hasn't made any comments indicating he could appreciate it, and given this is a SC2 forum, in the tech support section of that very forum, I'm makin a completely out the ass guess this is for Starcraft 2, in which case going over 4GB is goofy. dont make me hold up a bunch of sad pictures of japan and tell you to donate now. too late ![[image loading]](http://www.antiquated.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Donate-to-japan1.jpg) User was temp banned for this post.
he's had 37 mod notes from 15 different moderators, certainly a record. See if you can find them all!
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United Kingdom3482 Posts
I believe you got double ninja'd there.
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On September 13 2012 03:24 Dodgin wrote:
I think that's the first time I've seen someone get banned in the ABL that wasn't a request or a pbu suiciding onto the thread to bash the mods.
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On August 27 2012 11:37 TheToast wrote:
mod edit
User was temp banned for this post.
Page 1376 near the bottom
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On September 13 2012 03:09 KwarK wrote:I'm tired and irritable because I spent half the night talking to a girl who couldn't stop crying. She knew one of the victims pretty well. He left behind a wife and children. My tolerance for the deaths being used to justify the same tired old argument about religion is not especially high right now.
Why not just close the thread? it is difficult to discuss the issue without mentioning religion, so most people who post are just going to break the rule.
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On September 13 2012 03:53 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 03:24 Dodgin wrote:
I think that's the first time I've seen someone get banned in the ABL that wasn't a request or a pbu suiciding onto the thread to bash the mods. ? Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 11:37 TheToast wrote:
mod edit
User was temp banned for this post. Page 1376 near the bottom
I guess that's the other time, forgot about toast's rant on Shady Sands or whatever that was.
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On September 13 2012 03:42 Cutlery wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2012 23:03 paralleluniverse wrote:On September 12 2012 23:00 Souma wrote:On September 12 2012 22:50 paralleluniverse wrote:On September 12 2012 22:31 Mephy wrote:On September 12 2012 22:27 paralleluniverse wrote:On September 12 2012 22:15 Mephy wrote:
Some posts in here that call Islam a "violent religion" are really fucking depressing. And I'm not even Muslim, I'm Christian. I sincerely hope people are able to make the distinction between a violent religion and fanatical extremists.
Islam at its roots is no more violent than any other religion in the world. I ask those who claim that Islam preaches violence - where exactly in the Quran does it call out for Muslims to actively murder and kill other non-Muslims? I can assure you that there are much, much more passages committed to spreading the message of peace and forgiveness. And please, please don't take messages out of context like the idiot on the previous page.
Some of the Muslims may have acted out of anger that someone insulted their religion, and you can argue that their killing was motivated by their interpretation of Islam. But in that case, why aren't the rest of the 1.6 billion Muslims picking up their rocket launchers and going to war? You're looking at a very small group of fanatics (relatively) with their own warped interpretation of Islam, not the vast majority of the Muslim population, and then suddenly you decide its alright to label the entire Islamic religion as violent?
Want to stop the senseless killings and promote peace? Well you guys sure aren't helping with your uneducated comments. How about you start by understanding other religions and stop perpetuating these stereotypes? [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust. [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. [5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, [8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. [8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do. [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. [9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement. Now that you've found those, why don't you compile a list of passages that talk about peace and equality? Then we can find some sort of ratio and determine if Islam is violent. You act as if there is some sort of mental tug of war in the minds of these murderers and terrorists. But if you've actually watched any of their propaganda you'd know there is no such conflict, they are absolutely clear-headed that Islam and the Quran justifies suicide bombings and murders. The ratio of good-to-bad is not part of their mental calculus. Why do these people keep talking about Allah, Islam, and slaughtering infidels? Could it be because religion has everything to do with their reasoning? And it is these types of hateful and intolerant teachings that allows them to justify to themselves why it is acceptable to kill someone else for blasphemy. If you deny that Islam is the primary source of their murderous outrage, then what is it? You say that these murderers have a warped view of Islam. Then why aren't there similarly warped views of Christianity that leads to suicide bombings? Could it be that Islam is more forcefully intolerant and hateful than Christianity? And in the face of these atrocities, what do you do? Nothing. No condemnation. You write as if we should just open our arms to accept these primitives who believe in a religion that calls for the murder of nonbelievers and blasphemers. Let's welcome these people who are from the most theocratic and intolerant places on planet Earth, pretending that there is absolutely nothing wrong with what they believe, despite that the fact that this religion has bred suicide bombers, religious fanatics, and murderous mobs like nowhere else in the modern world. What could possibly go wrong? Remember Madrid? London? You know very well that it is not just religion that causes these people to go out murdering others. I would put my money on Christians going out chopping off heads if they were oppressed as a lot of these Muslim nations have been. U.S.-backed dictators who slaughter innocent civilians? Yeah, that's totally okay. I will never justify suicide bombing; I will always deem it barbaric and tragic. But if you think America does not have its fair share of blame, you are sorely mistaken. Anyone who imagines that terrestrial concerns account for Muslim terrorism must answer questions of the following sort: Where are the Tibetan Buddhist suicide bombers? The Tibetans have suffered an occupation far more brutal, and far more cynical, than any that Britain, the United States, or Israel have ever imposed upon the Muslim world. Where are the throngs of Tibetans ready to perpetrate suicidal atrocities against Chinese noncombatants? They do not exist. What is the difference that makes the difference? The difference lies in the specific tenets of Islam. This is not to say that Buddhism could not help inspire suicidal violence. It can, and it has (Japan, World War II). But this concedes absolutely nothing to the apologists for Islam. As a Buddhist, one has to work extremely hard to justify such barbarism. One need not work nearly so hard as a Muslim. The truth that we must finally confront is that Islam contains specific notions of martyrdom and jihad that fully explain the character of Muslim violence. Unless the world’s Muslims can find some way of expunging the metaphysics that is fast turning their religion into a cult of death, we will ultimately face the same perversely destructive behavior throughout much of the world. We are now mired in a religious war in Iraq and elsewhere. Our enemies--as witnessed by their astonishing willingness to slaughter themselves--are not principally motivated by political or economic grievances. How many more architects and electrical engineers must fly planes into buildings before we realize that the problem of Muslim extremism is not merely a matter of education? How many more middle-class British citizens must blow themselves up along with scores of noncombatants before we acknowledge that Muslim terrorism is not matter of poverty or political oppression? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/bombing-our-illusions_b_8615.html I can say that I'm not muslim, but I'm pretty sure I would fight back, if I could. I'm not buddhist either, but history shows that you do not need religion to justify defending your loved ones and your country. Attacks against freedom of speech (and other freedoms) I do not tolerate what-so-ever. But I do not agree with your logic. It isn't complete. User was temp banned for this post.
Cutlery was just temp banned for 2 days by KwarK.
That account was created on 2010-12-19 02:21:18 and had 370 posts.
Reason: Don't reply to a banned poster on a banned subject. It just forces me to do this.
I am not entirely sure that Cutlery knew that the poster was banned, he quoted a different post.
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United States42638 Posts
On September 13 2012 03:33 kollin wrote:
Fairly sure he didn't do that purposely, though I could be wrong. After all he did ask for it to be edited.
Yeah, he PMed me and apologised and asked the post to be edited. Downgrading it to a warning.
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On September 13 2012 03:59 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 03:33 kollin wrote:
Fairly sure he didn't do that purposely, though I could be wrong. After all he did ask for it to be edited. Yeah, he PMed me and apologised and asked the post to be edited. Downgrading it to a warning.
props to both of you for handling things nicely 
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I'm really sorry for that post everyone, I hadn't for a moment considered the context of the bans I was commenting on. I felt really terrible when I realised what I had said and just immediately wanted to edit the post out (thanks for doing that for me). I really didn't intend any disrespect to any victims or their families and friends and certainly not to make light of the situation. I really should have considered my words and the context significantly better. Sorry. 
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On September 13 2012 03:56 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 03:42 Cutlery wrote:On September 12 2012 23:03 paralleluniverse wrote:On September 12 2012 23:00 Souma wrote:On September 12 2012 22:50 paralleluniverse wrote:On September 12 2012 22:31 Mephy wrote:On September 12 2012 22:27 paralleluniverse wrote:On September 12 2012 22:15 Mephy wrote:
Some posts in here that call Islam a "violent religion" are really fucking depressing. And I'm not even Muslim, I'm Christian. I sincerely hope people are able to make the distinction between a violent religion and fanatical extremists.
Islam at its roots is no more violent than any other religion in the world. I ask those who claim that Islam preaches violence - where exactly in the Quran does it call out for Muslims to actively murder and kill other non-Muslims? I can assure you that there are much, much more passages committed to spreading the message of peace and forgiveness. And please, please don't take messages out of context like the idiot on the previous page.
Some of the Muslims may have acted out of anger that someone insulted their religion, and you can argue that their killing was motivated by their interpretation of Islam. But in that case, why aren't the rest of the 1.6 billion Muslims picking up their rocket launchers and going to war? You're looking at a very small group of fanatics (relatively) with their own warped interpretation of Islam, not the vast majority of the Muslim population, and then suddenly you decide its alright to label the entire Islamic religion as violent?
Want to stop the senseless killings and promote peace? Well you guys sure aren't helping with your uneducated comments. How about you start by understanding other religions and stop perpetuating these stereotypes? [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust. [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. [5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, [8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. [8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do. [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. [9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement. Now that you've found those, why don't you compile a list of passages that talk about peace and equality? Then we can find some sort of ratio and determine if Islam is violent. You act as if there is some sort of mental tug of war in the minds of these murderers and terrorists. But if you've actually watched any of their propaganda you'd know there is no such conflict, they are absolutely clear-headed that Islam and the Quran justifies suicide bombings and murders. The ratio of good-to-bad is not part of their mental calculus. Why do these people keep talking about Allah, Islam, and slaughtering infidels? Could it be because religion has everything to do with their reasoning? And it is these types of hateful and intolerant teachings that allows them to justify to themselves why it is acceptable to kill someone else for blasphemy. If you deny that Islam is the primary source of their murderous outrage, then what is it? You say that these murderers have a warped view of Islam. Then why aren't there similarly warped views of Christianity that leads to suicide bombings? Could it be that Islam is more forcefully intolerant and hateful than Christianity? And in the face of these atrocities, what do you do? Nothing. No condemnation. You write as if we should just open our arms to accept these primitives who believe in a religion that calls for the murder of nonbelievers and blasphemers. Let's welcome these people who are from the most theocratic and intolerant places on planet Earth, pretending that there is absolutely nothing wrong with what they believe, despite that the fact that this religion has bred suicide bombers, religious fanatics, and murderous mobs like nowhere else in the modern world. What could possibly go wrong? Remember Madrid? London? You know very well that it is not just religion that causes these people to go out murdering others. I would put my money on Christians going out chopping off heads if they were oppressed as a lot of these Muslim nations have been. U.S.-backed dictators who slaughter innocent civilians? Yeah, that's totally okay. I will never justify suicide bombing; I will always deem it barbaric and tragic. But if you think America does not have its fair share of blame, you are sorely mistaken. Anyone who imagines that terrestrial concerns account for Muslim terrorism must answer questions of the following sort: Where are the Tibetan Buddhist suicide bombers? The Tibetans have suffered an occupation far more brutal, and far more cynical, than any that Britain, the United States, or Israel have ever imposed upon the Muslim world. Where are the throngs of Tibetans ready to perpetrate suicidal atrocities against Chinese noncombatants? They do not exist. What is the difference that makes the difference? The difference lies in the specific tenets of Islam. This is not to say that Buddhism could not help inspire suicidal violence. It can, and it has (Japan, World War II). But this concedes absolutely nothing to the apologists for Islam. As a Buddhist, one has to work extremely hard to justify such barbarism. One need not work nearly so hard as a Muslim. The truth that we must finally confront is that Islam contains specific notions of martyrdom and jihad that fully explain the character of Muslim violence. Unless the world’s Muslims can find some way of expunging the metaphysics that is fast turning their religion into a cult of death, we will ultimately face the same perversely destructive behavior throughout much of the world. We are now mired in a religious war in Iraq and elsewhere. Our enemies--as witnessed by their astonishing willingness to slaughter themselves--are not principally motivated by political or economic grievances. How many more architects and electrical engineers must fly planes into buildings before we realize that the problem of Muslim extremism is not merely a matter of education? How many more middle-class British citizens must blow themselves up along with scores of noncombatants before we acknowledge that Muslim terrorism is not matter of poverty or political oppression? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/bombing-our-illusions_b_8615.html I can say that I'm not muslim, but I'm pretty sure I would fight back, if I could. I'm not buddhist either, but history shows that you do not need religion to justify defending your loved ones and your country. Attacks against freedom of speech (and other freedoms) I do not tolerate what-so-ever. But I do not agree with your logic. It isn't complete. User was temp banned for this post. Show nested quote +
Cutlery was just temp banned for 2 days by KwarK.
That account was created on 2010-12-19 02:21:18 and had 370 posts.
Reason: Don't reply to a banned poster on a banned subject. It just forces me to do this.
I am not entirely sure that Cutlery knew that the poster was banned, he quoted a different post.
PU was banned at 1:53. Cutlery posted at 3:42. He had time to see this. PU wasn't banned for that post, sure; but the subject was a bannable offense, as KwarK and semioldguy specified in the note. He shoulda known better. -_-'
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your Country52797 Posts
On September 13 2012 04:08 cLAN.Anax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 03:56 The_Templar wrote:On September 13 2012 03:42 Cutlery wrote:On September 12 2012 23:03 paralleluniverse wrote:On September 12 2012 23:00 Souma wrote:On September 12 2012 22:50 paralleluniverse wrote:On September 12 2012 22:31 Mephy wrote:On September 12 2012 22:27 paralleluniverse wrote:On September 12 2012 22:15 Mephy wrote:
Some posts in here that call Islam a "violent religion" are really fucking depressing. And I'm not even Muslim, I'm Christian. I sincerely hope people are able to make the distinction between a violent religion and fanatical extremists.
Islam at its roots is no more violent than any other religion in the world. I ask those who claim that Islam preaches violence - where exactly in the Quran does it call out for Muslims to actively murder and kill other non-Muslims? I can assure you that there are much, much more passages committed to spreading the message of peace and forgiveness. And please, please don't take messages out of context like the idiot on the previous page.
Some of the Muslims may have acted out of anger that someone insulted their religion, and you can argue that their killing was motivated by their interpretation of Islam. But in that case, why aren't the rest of the 1.6 billion Muslims picking up their rocket launchers and going to war? You're looking at a very small group of fanatics (relatively) with their own warped interpretation of Islam, not the vast majority of the Muslim population, and then suddenly you decide its alright to label the entire Islamic religion as violent?
Want to stop the senseless killings and promote peace? Well you guys sure aren't helping with your uneducated comments. How about you start by understanding other religions and stop perpetuating these stereotypes? [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust. [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. [5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement, [8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. [8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do. [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection. [9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement. Now that you've found those, why don't you compile a list of passages that talk about peace and equality? Then we can find some sort of ratio and determine if Islam is violent. You act as if there is some sort of mental tug of war in the minds of these murderers and terrorists. But if you've actually watched any of their propaganda you'd know there is no such conflict, they are absolutely clear-headed that Islam and the Quran justifies suicide bombings and murders. The ratio of good-to-bad is not part of their mental calculus. Why do these people keep talking about Allah, Islam, and slaughtering infidels? Could it be because religion has everything to do with their reasoning? And it is these types of hateful and intolerant teachings that allows them to justify to themselves why it is acceptable to kill someone else for blasphemy. If you deny that Islam is the primary source of their murderous outrage, then what is it? You say that these murderers have a warped view of Islam. Then why aren't there similarly warped views of Christianity that leads to suicide bombings? Could it be that Islam is more forcefully intolerant and hateful than Christianity? And in the face of these atrocities, what do you do? Nothing. No condemnation. You write as if we should just open our arms to accept these primitives who believe in a religion that calls for the murder of nonbelievers and blasphemers. Let's welcome these people who are from the most theocratic and intolerant places on planet Earth, pretending that there is absolutely nothing wrong with what they believe, despite that the fact that this religion has bred suicide bombers, religious fanatics, and murderous mobs like nowhere else in the modern world. What could possibly go wrong? Remember Madrid? London? You know very well that it is not just religion that causes these people to go out murdering others. I would put my money on Christians going out chopping off heads if they were oppressed as a lot of these Muslim nations have been. U.S.-backed dictators who slaughter innocent civilians? Yeah, that's totally okay. I will never justify suicide bombing; I will always deem it barbaric and tragic. But if you think America does not have its fair share of blame, you are sorely mistaken. Anyone who imagines that terrestrial concerns account for Muslim terrorism must answer questions of the following sort: Where are the Tibetan Buddhist suicide bombers? The Tibetans have suffered an occupation far more brutal, and far more cynical, than any that Britain, the United States, or Israel have ever imposed upon the Muslim world. Where are the throngs of Tibetans ready to perpetrate suicidal atrocities against Chinese noncombatants? They do not exist. What is the difference that makes the difference? The difference lies in the specific tenets of Islam. This is not to say that Buddhism could not help inspire suicidal violence. It can, and it has (Japan, World War II). But this concedes absolutely nothing to the apologists for Islam. As a Buddhist, one has to work extremely hard to justify such barbarism. One need not work nearly so hard as a Muslim. The truth that we must finally confront is that Islam contains specific notions of martyrdom and jihad that fully explain the character of Muslim violence. Unless the world’s Muslims can find some way of expunging the metaphysics that is fast turning their religion into a cult of death, we will ultimately face the same perversely destructive behavior throughout much of the world. We are now mired in a religious war in Iraq and elsewhere. Our enemies--as witnessed by their astonishing willingness to slaughter themselves--are not principally motivated by political or economic grievances. How many more architects and electrical engineers must fly planes into buildings before we realize that the problem of Muslim extremism is not merely a matter of education? How many more middle-class British citizens must blow themselves up along with scores of noncombatants before we acknowledge that Muslim terrorism is not matter of poverty or political oppression? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sam-harris/bombing-our-illusions_b_8615.html I can say that I'm not muslim, but I'm pretty sure I would fight back, if I could. I'm not buddhist either, but history shows that you do not need religion to justify defending your loved ones and your country. Attacks against freedom of speech (and other freedoms) I do not tolerate what-so-ever. But I do not agree with your logic. It isn't complete. User was temp banned for this post.
Cutlery was just temp banned for 2 days by KwarK.
That account was created on 2010-12-19 02:21:18 and had 370 posts.
Reason: Don't reply to a banned poster on a banned subject. It just forces me to do this.
I am not entirely sure that Cutlery knew that the poster was banned, he quoted a different post. PU was banned at 1:53. Cutlery posted at 3:42. He had time to see this. PU wasn't banned for that post, sure; but the subject was a bannable offense, as KwarK and semioldguy specified in the note. He shoulda known better. -_-'
My bad, I didn't clarify myself. Maybe he didn't know what the lockdown icon was and didn't see the post. I do agree he should have at least seen the mod note.
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I just want to echo the statements on the U.S. Ambassador thread, that's the most bans I have seen in such a short period of time.
Also, I would have thought paralleluniverse would have known better about getting involved in a thread of this nature.
On September 13 2012 01:35 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 01:23 semioldguy wrote:
Please don't use this thread as a platform to argue about religion Then this thread has no point. User was temp banned for this post.
On September 13 2012 03:07 scFoX wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 02:50 cLAN.Anax wrote:paralleluniverse was just temp banned for 2 days by KwarK.
That account was created on 2010-07-12 23:20:50 and had 1942 posts.
Reason: People died and you're complaining about being unable to use their death to score meaningless points about religion in an online argument? Go have a think about your life. Y'know, I could see what he was trying to do here. There's a time and a place to discuss those things and the causes and correlations that may be involved. Guess that thread wasn't the place.... KwarK and semioldguy even warned against arguing, but I suppose he didn't listen. I see exactly what he was trying to do, and it wasn't pretty. Honestly, though, the thread has long stopped having anything to do with Lybia or the people killed, sadly. This despite the warnings. There are so many off-topic posts my head is hurting. At the time of writing this post, the thread has already claimed more than 15 individual bans. O_O Reminds me of this comic: http://xkcd.com/386/Some people just can't leave well enough alone.
That xkcd comic is so pertinent.
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teaCher was just banned by vGl-CoW.
That account was created on 2010-05-03 08:09:32 and had 520 posts.
Reason: not sure i've ever seen anybody with three 30-day bans before... a unique snowflake perishes today
D'awwwww.
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On September 13 2012 05:54 Cokefreak wrote:Show nested quote +teaCher was just banned by vGl-CoW.
That account was created on 2010-05-03 08:09:32 and had 520 posts.
Reason: not sure i've ever seen anybody with three 30-day bans before... a unique snowflake perishes today D'awwwww.
Well played cow, well played. The MOW thread seems to be turning into a desitiney thread. Thats how bad it is in terms of crappy posts.
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On September 13 2012 06:00 Jaaaaasper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 05:54 Cokefreak wrote:teaCher was just banned by vGl-CoW.
That account was created on 2010-05-03 08:09:32 and had 520 posts.
Reason: not sure i've ever seen anybody with three 30-day bans before... a unique snowflake perishes today D'awwwww. Well played cow, well played. The MOW thread seems to be turning into a desitiney thread. Thats how bad it is in terms of crappy posts.
I was reading that thread and kept seeing the nuke icon on his posts but I couldn't find what he was actually banned for. Had to find out in the ABL and thought that was a really awesome reason!
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On September 13 2012 06:03 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 06:00 Jaaaaasper wrote:On September 13 2012 05:54 Cokefreak wrote:teaCher was just banned by vGl-CoW.
That account was created on 2010-05-03 08:09:32 and had 520 posts.
Reason: not sure i've ever seen anybody with three 30-day bans before... a unique snowflake perishes today D'awwwww. Well played cow, well played. The MOW thread seems to be turning into a desitiney thread. Thats how bad it is in terms of crappy posts. I was reading that thread and kept seeing the nuke icon on his posts but I couldn't find what he was actually banned for. Had to find out in the ABL and thought that was a really awesome reason!
The post he got banned for:
+ Show Spoiler +On September 13 2012 04:07 teaCher wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 04:05 pallad wrote:On September 13 2012 04:03 S_SienZ wrote:On September 13 2012 04:00 pallad wrote:One side... everyone says that House is superb and everyone love it ... And at othger side one players say shit like this.. , who to belive ? Perfectly possible for the house (as in the building) to be amazing but the boss behind it to be an unreasonable unprofessional douche. And from where you know that ? You met him ? , or you just read one post here..? One post here is all we need to see the true colors of Boss. Why not treat everyplayer paying him 600 EUro to stay there, with the same respect? Instead they rip of Fuzer, don't feed him and try to take advantage of him. I always knew eastern Europeans were shady User was banned for this post (racism, final offense in a long history of mod actions).
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On September 13 2012 06:09 Roman666 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 06:03 garbanzo wrote:On September 13 2012 06:00 Jaaaaasper wrote:On September 13 2012 05:54 Cokefreak wrote:teaCher was just banned by vGl-CoW.
That account was created on 2010-05-03 08:09:32 and had 520 posts.
Reason: not sure i've ever seen anybody with three 30-day bans before... a unique snowflake perishes today D'awwwww. Well played cow, well played. The MOW thread seems to be turning into a desitiney thread. Thats how bad it is in terms of crappy posts. I was reading that thread and kept seeing the nuke icon on his posts but I couldn't find what he was actually banned for. Had to find out in the ABL and thought that was a really awesome reason! The post he got banned for: + Show Spoiler +On September 13 2012 04:07 teaCher wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 04:05 pallad wrote:On September 13 2012 04:03 S_SienZ wrote:Perfectly possible for the house (as in the building) to be amazing but the boss behind it to be an unreasonable unprofessional douche. And from where you know that ? You met him ? , or you just read one post here..? One post here is all we need to see the true colors of Boss. Why not treat everyplayer paying him 600 EUro to stay there, with the same respect? Instead they rip of Fuzer, don't feed him and try to take advantage of him. I always knew eastern Europeans were shady User was banned for this post (racism, final offense in a long history of mod actions).
I see. Thanks! I think I must have already skimmed through that post pre-mod action.
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