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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
July 11 2016 01:38 GMT
#541
Portugal finally won and we did it without Ronaldo on the field for the final.

They had a gameplan and stuck to it. For once the team didn't look like a lot of individuals playing but like a real team this year. Say what you will about it being boring or highly defensive, I think Portugal saw what had to be done and did it well. There was no way we could have gone all out offense all game against France, we would never win that way.

The handball free kick call was probably the only real bad call the referee made. It was overall a really clean game considering how high the tensions were and the cards only started rolling when tired legs and strained minds started to make mistakes with their challenges on both sides.

Somehow eder scored and all you need is one moment of brilliance to win offensively. Though i will say Rui Patricio put the team on his back today, he made a ton of very very good saves.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
July 11 2016 02:33 GMT
#542
heartbroken right now, Patricio played like a champion though. much respect to Portugal for doing it when in all reality they shouldn't have, what a way to win your first title.
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lethal111
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada460 Posts
July 11 2016 02:33 GMT
#543
honestly thought France would win it against Portugal...
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
July 11 2016 03:21 GMT
#544
people keep complaining about "ugly" games. guess what, that happens in sports, not every game ur gonna get 30 yard missiles and bicycle kicks. i think if u asked anybody before the finals, they would all agree that this is what portugal had to do to win.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 11 2016 04:26 GMT
#545
On July 11 2016 12:21 zev318 wrote:
people keep complaining about "ugly" games. guess what, that happens in sports, not every game ur gonna get 30 yard missiles and bicycle kicks. i think if u asked anybody before the finals, they would all agree that this is what portugal had to do to win.


I think the problem is that people see this as a growing trend.

You see far, far fewer boring/ugly games like this in other sports like basketball, hockey, American football, rugby, etc. Unfortunately, the trend for our sport is for this to happen increasingly often.
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WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
July 11 2016 05:28 GMT
#546
On July 11 2016 13:26 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2016 12:21 zev318 wrote:
people keep complaining about "ugly" games. guess what, that happens in sports, not every game ur gonna get 30 yard missiles and bicycle kicks. i think if u asked anybody before the finals, they would all agree that this is what portugal had to do to win.


I think the problem is that people see this as a growing trend.

You see far, far fewer boring/ugly games like this in other sports like basketball, hockey, American football, rugby, etc. Unfortunately, the trend for our sport is for this to happen increasingly often.

I've seen enough rugby to tell you that it's sometimes super boring. The physical impacts are cool, but after a while you don't care as much about it. I wouldn't know how to judge American sports since I barely watch them, but I'd say teams are encouraged to attack a lot to entertain the spectators. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't NBA notorious for having bad defenses, or at least teams that lack balance and go all out offensive?

Football needs more teams that take the initiative. For national teams right now, you can probably count offensive teams on one hand. Brazil is full muscle now, Argentina is more counter-attack, so there's only Spain and Germany left? England's trying a bit, France isn't, Italy isn't, etc... A game between 2 defensive oriented teams will often be boring. Barcelona vs Atletico is fun, but Atletico vs a smaller team wouldn't be very exciting. Like a game between two Spanish players in tennis would be utterly boring because of their playstyle. Thankfully, some very talented players like Federer can raise the entertainment level.

There should be defensive teams for sure, but I think FIFA should think about ways to promote offensive plays. Building an offensive team is more difficult because technical players usually cost more; and making that team play well is even more difficult because technical players usually aren't very disciplined. So a lot of teams just give up and play the easy way. Barcelona, Spain and Germany set trends that some teams follow, but trends usually come from successes. This year we've seen a lot of solid teams go far in tournaments, and I'm afraid that trend is going to go the other way. That's where maybe you start thinking about changing some rules...

Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
July 11 2016 06:42 GMT
#547
GGWP portugal. I think the portuguese win is fitting the tournament.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-11 07:15:44
July 11 2016 07:01 GMT
#548
who won "player of the tournament" award?

edit: wow how come that this match had not many viewers from Germany? 17,68m watched it yesterday. France vs Iceland (18,93m) and Portugal vs Wales (17,78m) had more viewers.
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 11 2016 07:22 GMT
#549
So the game was shit right? :D I'm glad I watched some tv series instead lol

MVP of this Euro was Pandemona with his badass opening posts. Mad props dude!
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-11 07:32:17
July 11 2016 07:22 GMT
#550
On July 11 2016 10:38 ZeromuS wrote:
Portugal finally won and we did it without Ronaldo on the field for the final.

They had a gameplan and stuck to it. For once the team didn't look like a lot of individuals playing but like a real team this year. Say what you will about it being boring or highly defensive, I think Portugal saw what had to be done and did it well. There was no way we could have gone all out offense all game against France, we would never win that way.

The handball free kick call was probably the only real bad call the referee made. It was overall a really clean game considering how high the tensions were and the cards only started rolling when tired legs and strained minds started to make mistakes with their challenges on both sides.

Somehow eder scored and all you need is one moment of brilliance to win offensively. Though i will say Rui Patricio put the team on his back today, he made a ton of very very good saves.


The ref was far from being great imo.
Did not give a foul against Ronaldo (must have been a card imo). Same with Pepe where pushed someone with both hands right before a corner kick.
It was not game changing though, which is good, but it was not really a good performance. Especially bad for Ronaldo.
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lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
July 11 2016 07:30 GMT
#551
On July 11 2016 16:22 gTank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2016 10:38 ZeromuS wrote:
Portugal finally won and we did it without Ronaldo on the field for the final.

They had a gameplan and stuck to it. For once the team didn't look like a lot of individuals playing but like a real team this year. Say what you will about it being boring or highly defensive, I think Portugal saw what had to be done and did it well. There was no way we could have gone all out offense all game against France, we would never win that way.

The handball free kick call was probably the only real bad call the referee made. It was overall a really clean game considering how high the tensions were and the cards only started rolling when tired legs and strained minds started to make mistakes with their challenges on both sides.

Somehow eder scored and all you need is one moment of brilliance to win offensively. Though i will say Rui Patricio put the team on his back today, he made a ton of very very good saves.


The ref was far from being great imo.
Did not give a foul against Ronaldo (must have been a card imo). Same with Pepe where pushed someone with both hands right before a corner kick.
It was not game changing though, which is good, but it was not realy good. Especially bad for Ronaldo.

Yellow for Koscielny when Eder handballed was kinda game deciding error as 10/10 times he would try to tackle in the situation leading to goal of he weren't on yellow.
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-11 07:32:06
July 11 2016 07:30 GMT
#552
Double post
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
July 11 2016 07:31 GMT
#553
On July 11 2016 16:01 Dingodile wrote:
who won "player of the tournament" award?

edit: wow how come that this match had not many viewers from Germany? 17,68m watched it yesterday. France vs Iceland (18,93m) and Portugal vs Wales (17,78m) had more viewers.

Payet. They tried a new ranking system, game by game. Since he was good during groupstage and reached the final, he won basically xD Fun thing is he passed Griezmann with the final...
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2016/players/index.html
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2656 Posts
July 11 2016 07:39 GMT
#554
On July 11 2016 16:30 lprk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2016 16:22 gTank wrote:
On July 11 2016 10:38 ZeromuS wrote:
Portugal finally won and we did it without Ronaldo on the field for the final.

They had a gameplan and stuck to it. For once the team didn't look like a lot of individuals playing but like a real team this year. Say what you will about it being boring or highly defensive, I think Portugal saw what had to be done and did it well. There was no way we could have gone all out offense all game against France, we would never win that way.

The handball free kick call was probably the only real bad call the referee made. It was overall a really clean game considering how high the tensions were and the cards only started rolling when tired legs and strained minds started to make mistakes with their challenges on both sides.

Somehow eder scored and all you need is one moment of brilliance to win offensively. Though i will say Rui Patricio put the team on his back today, he made a ton of very very good saves.


The ref was far from being great imo.
Did not give a foul against Ronaldo (must have been a card imo). Same with Pepe where pushed someone with both hands right before a corner kick.
It was not game changing though, which is good, but it was not realy good. Especially bad for Ronaldo.

Yellow for Koscielny when Eder handballed was kinda game deciding error as 10/10 times he would try to tackle in the situation leading to goal of he weren't on yellow.


Hm, I didn't think about that tbh. It makes sense actually.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 11 2016 08:07 GMT
#555
Ok then, Eder becomes a european legend, the guy who scores once every 12 months as a striker what a legend! Guess every Portuguese fan gives no .. about that when he turns up to score the winner in a European championship final to win his country a title. Props!

Now we have just over 4 weeks to go until the new domestic seasons oh boy
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7320 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-11 08:35:38
July 11 2016 08:30 GMT
#556
On July 11 2016 16:01 Dingodile wrote:
who won "player of the tournament" award?

edit: wow how come that this match had not many viewers from Germany? 17,68m watched it yesterday. France vs Iceland (18,93m) and Portugal vs Wales (17,78m) had more viewers.


Because it was obvious that it would be a boring, shitty game? I would even go so far to say that while a lot of TV's were on, few actually watched
Pretty scared actually for international football in general. Worst tournament ever. Zero entertaiment value from a football perspective.
Obviously the storys of Iceland, Northern Ireland, .. are highly entertaining

Maybe change the size of goals or sth. cause it'll get worse and worse
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-11 09:00:48
July 11 2016 08:59 GMT
#557
On July 11 2016 10:28 WillyWanker wrote:
I'm not even mad Portugal won, they've lost titles in the past, I think it's deserved. Such a small nation but still tons of talent for generations now. The funny part is that they didn't win when they had the most talent and played good football, they played ugly and won this time, kind of reminiscent to Chelsea winning past their peak.

For me the best players of that team were Pepe, the perfect wall (well except for that opportunity Gignac had), Joao Mario (just 23 and played like Vidal) and Guerreiro. Ronaldo was important but I don't think he delivered a single 70-80% performance this tournament. Nonetheless, when he plays bad, his team wins (RM 2014 and 2016, now the Euro), quite a funny coincidence.

For France, how can we judge their performance? 2 real opponents, one undeserved win, one loss. Yet we continue with the same coach for at least 2 more years. If France had a coach with football ideas that don't only rely on fielding muscle, we could actually play really well with the talent at hand. But ambition isn't really French and we'll say that he reached the final so he's a winner... Never forget HOW you accomplished that. Same could be said about Portugal but at least they won.

Yep. I wish people would remember Domenech and realize that reaching the finals doesn't always mean that the coach is good (per Arsène Wenger after the 2014 finals : "the greatest quality a coach can have is to have great players"). And I'd say reaching the finals with opponents being Romania, Albania, Switzerland, Ireland, Iceland and a diminished Germany is the minimum result you'd have expected.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13006 Posts
July 11 2016 09:21 GMT
#558
Not taking Benzema and the likes was very good tho.
WriterMaru
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 11 2016 09:56 GMT
#559
Well that's something we'll never know, I guess d: I don't know about Benzema/Sakho/Valbuena, but I don't understand why no Ben Arfa.
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warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2396 Posts
July 11 2016 10:09 GMT
#560
The World Cup 2014 tied the record for most goals scored in a World Cup. It was a very entertaining event.

The format of this tournament is questionable, but those arguing to go back to 16 teams tend to be the ones on the Wales + Iceland bandwagon. Can't have it both ways people.
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