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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 06 2010 16:55 GMT
#3361
Thanks guys
It honestly felt like I'd never reach this point, and I feel great...however, I have to catch up with decaf, so if you'll excuse me, I have a protein shake to devour.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 18:20:30
November 06 2010 18:16 GMT
#3362
I've been training for 3 months now. Squat at 100kg (recently lowered it around 10kg to get deeper squats ), bench at 70kg, press at 47,5kg, deadlift at 95kg. I'm using Rippetoe's Wichita Falls novice program so the workset weight on deadlift is kind of meh as it's done only once every other week. It's hard to figure out how much to increase the weight from workout to workout.

Big thanks to this thread for letting me know about Rippetoe. I had been going to gym for few weeks with somewhat random program before I found out about it. After that I went through the wiki like crazy, improving my technique of the barbell workouts a lot!
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 06 2010 19:15 GMT
#3363
Being "slightly" hung over I decided to use the day to recover and work on my squat since my knees have been f*cked since my operation. Also did some prehab work and loosened up my back with foam rolling.

BB Squat: 5 sets of 60kg x 8
Stiff Leg Deads: 2 sets of 40kg x 8
Dragonflags

Then it was off to the hot tubs and sauna - gotta love Iceland and our endless supply of hot water

Just passed 90kg (~200 lbs) bodyweight for the first time ever

"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 19:47:30
November 06 2010 19:47 GMT
#3364
On November 06 2010 22:54 funkie wrote:
I'm like.

Squat 3x5 220lbs
Deadlift 3x5 220lbs
Bench 3x5 154lbs.

Reaching..(almost) 600.

If it makes you feel better you're comparing 3x5 vs max 1 rep so it would be a lot higher for you if you did your true max.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
November 07 2010 00:03 GMT
#3365
how do I find out my 1rm?

:O?

i always want to go for more than 1 rep at a time XD
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UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
November 07 2010 00:49 GMT
#3366
Step 1: put on the max weight you think you can do on whatever workout your doing.
Step 2: If you're squatting put the bar on your back, then do your rep.
Step 3: Place the bar back on the rack
Step 4: Post on teamliquid

Waiting for you to upload vids of you squatting and deadlifthing those weights =].
i be that pretty motherfucker
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 07 2010 01:01 GMT
#3367
On November 07 2010 09:03 funkie wrote:
how do I find out my 1rm?

:O?

i always want to go for more than 1 rep at a time XD


You dont need to do 1 RM yet........ it's a waste of a workout for you right now since your 1 RM changse every workout because you increase the weights every workout.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
November 07 2010 01:10 GMT
#3368
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/1rm.htm
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Kalpman
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden406 Posts
November 07 2010 02:14 GMT
#3369
I've always heard that if you can bench your own weight, you're pretty strong. Is this a rule you can go by?
I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than you!
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 02:45:55
November 07 2010 02:45 GMT
#3370
If you can bench your own weight, you're probably ahead of people who dont work out, as far as the muscles used in the bench press go. But "rules" like that are a lot like "rules" we hear about in sc2 where "x amount of thors beats x amount of mutas" - there's really a lot more to it than that. There are other muscles to consider, there's WHAT your actual bodyweight is (obviously someone at 200 pounds benching their weight is stronger than someone at 130 benching their bodyweight) etc. etc.

So for the last three or so weeks, I've been on 5,000 IU of vitamin D, as well as fish oil, and a multi-vitamin supplement. I've also, for every day of those weeks been fighting what felt like a very persistant cold. I thought, whatever it's a cold. I'll sleep a bit more, but I can still hit the gym, go to class, party, function like a normal college student.

Ran out of fish oil a week ago, and ran out of vitamin D two days ago. As of this morning, I'm now sneezing blood, with a fever, sleeping all day, blah blah blah, fighting what was apparently a severe sinus infection. I'll be going to purchase more Supplements as soon as the stores open tomorrow morning T_T.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
November 07 2010 02:57 GMT
#3371
On November 07 2010 11 Kalpman wrote:
I've always heard that if you can bench your own weight, you're pretty strong. Is this a rule you can go by?


It depends on how you define "strong."

Most people can't bench their own body weight. By that standard, being able to means that you're fairly strong... at least in terms of the bench press.

Given, there are people out there benching three times their body weight raw. These are obviously elite athletes who were born strong, raised strong, and spent about a decade training themselves intensely. But, it's pretty humbling for your average athlete, even one who bench presses 1.5 - 2x their body weight.

On the other hand, the bench press just kind of settled itself as the gold standard for strength in America for mysteries unknown to me. I am much more impressed with a guy clean and jerking 150% of his body weight than I am with a guy who has short arms and enormous stomach putting out a 10" range of motion on a heavy bench press.

Also, there are some charts flying around about strength standards that you can probably Google.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 07 2010 03:26 GMT
#3372
On November 07 2010 11:45 phyre112 wrote:
If you can bench your own weight, you're probably ahead of people who dont work out, as far as the muscles used in the bench press go. But "rules" like that are a lot like "rules" we hear about in sc2 where "x amount of thors beats x amount of mutas" - there's really a lot more to it than that. There are other muscles to consider, there's WHAT your actual bodyweight is (obviously someone at 200 pounds benching their weight is stronger than someone at 130 benching their bodyweight) etc. etc.

So for the last three or so weeks, I've been on 5,000 IU of vitamin D, as well as fish oil, and a multi-vitamin supplement. I've also, for every day of those weeks been fighting what felt like a very persistant cold. I thought, whatever it's a cold. I'll sleep a bit more, but I can still hit the gym, go to class, party, function like a normal college student.

Ran out of fish oil a week ago, and ran out of vitamin D two days ago. As of this morning, I'm now sneezing blood, with a fever, sleeping all day, blah blah blah, fighting what was apparently a severe sinus infection. I'll be going to purchase more Supplements as soon as the stores open tomorrow morning T_T.


Take 20-30k of vitamin D per day during illness....

oh yeah, and STOp WORKING OUT when you feel like you;re getting sick. Work out diverts immune system to clean up muscles away from cleanin up the infections in your body.......
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
November 07 2010 03:32 GMT
#3373
indeed, you may find said charts at http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html

(at least these ones were the ones i used to set my goals. heh )
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20023 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 07:32:04
November 07 2010 07:29 GMT
#3374
On November 07 2010 11:14 Kalpman wrote:
I've always heard that if you can bench your own weight, you're pretty strong. Is this a rule you can go by?


fuck that. STRIVE TO BE AWESOME

rep your bodyweight for warm ups ez

While i'm slammered, i congratulate us on being awesome seeing as it appears the majority of people can squat or deadlift 100kg or more which is fucking awesome. A lot of the people here that got on the starting strength train have made huge gains in strength and weight which is really, again, awesome.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 07 2010 07:54 GMT
#3375
I would like to add to decaf's statement. I am \fucked on cold meds right now, but the ability to (on any normal night of my week) front squat an attractive girl, and keep her there for the next half hour or so without any visible effort can NEVER be over estimated. The repeated "Oh my gawd, you're SO STRONG" is definitely a bonus as well. And these are wordsw being given to a guy who is 6'4 (193 cm) 165 lbs (75 kg). I'm a STICK compared to most of this thread!

ordering up some more vitamin D online tomorrow morning. Anyone have suggestions on where to get it? Also, anything I should probably be taking besides what I'm on already? (fish oil, vit. D and a multi?)
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 08:10:50
November 07 2010 08:02 GMT
#3376
On November 07 2010 11:14 Kalpman wrote:
I've always heard that if you can bench your own weight, you're pretty strong. Is this a rule you can go by?

no lol

I can def 1 rep bench my body weight yet I'm really weak. I could barely press a 45 lb bar. Can't even power clean it. The problem with bench press is that it doesn't use a lot of muscles in your body as much. If you're good at bench pressing you're good at bench pressing. Nothing more nothing less. It doesn't transfer over imo as much to other things. In your life how much actually do you put your back on something and push it? Its not really a normal position for body motion. But lets say like squats or deadlifts. If you know someone who can max 1 rep 2x their bodyweight with squats/deadlifts you can be pretty sure that they are strong as hell because both these lifts are compound lifts which uses a ton of muscles. And its a really natural body motion. You squat and deadlift things naturally all the time in your life. You try to pick something off the floor. You're deadlifting it. You squat to pick it up. Its actually why I have a problem with this whole emphasis on bench pressing and curling that society has. I was one of these people until I had my first ss day lol. Really changes your perspective the next day after you first squatted. Benching or curling can not make you feel the way you do after a squat/deadlift workout.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 07 2010 14:46 GMT
#3377
On November 07 2010 12:32 JeeJee wrote:
indeed, you may find said charts at http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html

(at least these ones were the ones i used to set my goals. heh )


We've posted some strength and progression charts for barbell lifts... as well as a bunch of other skills. Those are teh standard ones though!

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/12/skill-guidelines-for-building-strong-useful-adaptable-athletes/

On November 07 2010 16:54 phyre112 wrote:
I would like to add to decaf's statement. I am \fucked on cold meds right now, but the ability to (on any normal night of my week) front squat an attractive girl, and keep her there for the next half hour or so without any visible effort can NEVER be over estimated. The repeated "Oh my gawd, you're SO STRONG" is definitely a bonus as well. And these are wordsw being given to a guy who is 6'4 (193 cm) 165 lbs (75 kg). I'm a STICK compared to most of this thread!

ordering up some more vitamin D online tomorrow morning. Anyone have suggestions on where to get it? Also, anything I should probably be taking besides what I'm on already? (fish oil, vit. D and a multi?)


Erg, the one I usually recommend people is out of stock right now. It's this one:

http://www.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Vitamin-D3-10-000-IU-360-Softgels/21298?at=0

Though this one is in stock and should keep you for at least 4 months (as compared tot he other which is a year or more supply).

http://www.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Vitamin-D3-10-000-IU-120-Softgels/21314?at=0

If you've never ordered from iherb before you can use a discount code for $5 off. Mine is LOW052 ... and I get like 4% back from your purchase which is nice.

I don't recommend anything other than fish oil, and vitamin D (but only if you're not in the sun at least 1 hour everyday). If you don't get enough calcium, mag or zinc it may be a good idea to possibly get some of that... but otherwise you're fine if you're eating good foods.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 18:15:47
November 07 2010 15:00 GMT
#3378
I've always thought that 1,5x/2x/2,5x was a good estimate on your lifts if you are strong or not. Order being Bench, Squat and Deadlift.

But what matters is that you are making progress.

EDIT:

Another day, another PR.

BB Bench Press: 3 sets of 70kg x 8 (+5 kg)
Inc. DB BP: 20kg x 10, 25kg x 8 and 30kg x 7 (+2 reps)
Decline BB BP: 75kg x 8 and 80kg x 8 (+5 and +2 reps)

Pretty good, shoulders fried.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
November 07 2010 21:06 GMT
#3379
every1 seems to have ignored the 2nd half of my post a couple pages back lol :/

Press has been giving me a bit of trouble though, I believe this is also due to bad form. Ive watched vids/read tutorials on it, and im pretty sure Im not locking out the weight far enough back behind my head. Im actually physically unable to do so, specially not with a heavy weight in my hands. I guess im just really inflexible or weak in the shoulders/back or whatever it is that needs to be flexed there. Can anyone recommend me good stretches or techniques to overcome this problem? Thanks in advance


anyone have experience with that? Like when i lift my arms up above my head, i cant get them straight up or behind, theyre stuck at a slightly forward angle which is obviously bad for pressing..something tells me it has to do with spending too much time at my computer :p
aka DragOn[NaS]
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20023 Posts
November 07 2010 21:13 GMT
#3380
Maybe try german hangs?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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