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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
November 07 2010 21:21 GMT
#3381
On November 08 2010 06:06 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
every1 seems to have ignored the 2nd half of my post a couple pages back lol :/

Show nested quote +
Press has been giving me a bit of trouble though, I believe this is also due to bad form. Ive watched vids/read tutorials on it, and im pretty sure Im not locking out the weight far enough back behind my head. Im actually physically unable to do so, specially not with a heavy weight in my hands. I guess im just really inflexible or weak in the shoulders/back or whatever it is that needs to be flexed there. Can anyone recommend me good stretches or techniques to overcome this problem? Thanks in advance


anyone have experience with that? Like when i lift my arms up above my head, i cant get them straight up or behind, theyre stuck at a slightly forward angle which is obviously bad for pressing..something tells me it has to do with spending too much time at my computer :p


Do shoulder dislocates with a pvc pipe or a broomstick. Foam roll your T-spine with your hands above your head preworkout. Can you do an overhead squat? That'll teach you to get your arms locked behind your head pretty easily. If you can't do one with the bar at first, put 5lb plates under your heels and work with smaller bars (curl bar, womens bar if you have one).
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
November 07 2010 23:21 GMT
#3382
thanks for the suggestions guys. Ive never done an overhead squat, i doubt i could maintain a lockout properly atm. Ill try doing the german hangs/shoulder dislocates/foam rolling today.
aka DragOn[NaS]
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 07 2010 23:27 GMT
#3383
this mlg event is hurting my mental health and fitness
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
November 08 2010 00:16 GMT
#3384
I was really doing well on my fitness, back to basics with lifting and feeling fabulous on a diet based around intermittent fasting and a Paleo-inspired macro breakdown.

I'm still not sure what happened, but in the early morning hours of Friday, November 5th I was sitting at my desk pokering when I suddenly discovered I had significant loss of dorsiflexion--the ability to flex the foot upwards--on the left side. Apparently the common term for this is "foot drop" because your foot drops when you lift it up.

Nothing like this has ever happened to me before and I can tell you it's extremely frightening to be in no pain but to attempt to move and have almost nothing happen. I went to the ER and they were of little help, basically telling me to get an outpatient EMG/NCS to analyze the neurological status of the leg. They did say they believe it to be a peripheral issue rather a central nervous system one, which I suppose is of some consolation.

I'm hoping it was just because I tweaked something strangely during my leg day on 11/3, but I don't really recall any pain and it seems strange that it was a delayed onset. At this point I'm legitimately concerned I may not walk normally again since I'm going on 64 hours with no discernible improvement. It's strange but one never really considers that every step you take begins with a subtle upward flexion of the foot at the ankle, and now that I can't do this the effects are wide-reaching.

I'm hoping to get a better picture of what's going on soon and am trying to stay optimistic about a full recovery, but any failings of the nervous system are pretty alarming. Wish me luck.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 08 2010 00:48 GMT
#3385
Yeah, for arms overhead you need to:

Stretch out/foam roll thoracic spine... make sure your chest is out and proud during the lift (and all the time... good posture)

Stretch out lats and pecs especially... serratus. Shoulder or band dislocates are good. Door stretches, corner stretches, german hangs, etc. Lots of good stuff.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 08 2010 00:50 GMT
#3386
On November 08 2010 09:16 Ingenol wrote:
I was really doing well on my fitness, back to basics with lifting and feeling fabulous on a diet based around intermittent fasting and a Paleo-inspired macro breakdown.

I'm still not sure what happened, but in the early morning hours of Friday, November 5th I was sitting at my desk pokering when I suddenly discovered I had significant loss of dorsiflexion--the ability to flex the foot upwards--on the left side. Apparently the common term for this is "foot drop" because your foot drops when you lift it up.

Nothing like this has ever happened to me before and I can tell you it's extremely frightening to be in no pain but to attempt to move and have almost nothing happen. I went to the ER and they were of little help, basically telling me to get an outpatient EMG/NCS to analyze the neurological status of the leg. They did say they believe it to be a peripheral issue rather a central nervous system one, which I suppose is of some consolation.

I'm hoping it was just because I tweaked something strangely during my leg day on 11/3, but I don't really recall any pain and it seems strange that it was a delayed onset. At this point I'm legitimately concerned I may not walk normally again since I'm going on 64 hours with no discernible improvement. It's strange but one never really considers that every step you take begins with a subtle upward flexion of the foot at the ankle, and now that I can't do this the effects are wide-reaching.

I'm hoping to get a better picture of what's going on soon and am trying to stay optimistic about a full recovery, but any failings of the nervous system are pretty alarming. Wish me luck.


Hmmm foot drop.... have you had any loss of sensation anywhere?

I would suggest aggressivel rolling out your plantar fascia, stretching your calves, hammies, glutes, quads, etc. Pretty much everything int he lower leg and see if you can work out tight spots too.

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/11/shoes-sitting-and-lower-body-dysfunctions/

Lots of good soft tissue work and stretches in the link above..... page 4.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 08 2010 00:55 GMT
#3387
Man, I really hope you get a speedy recovery.

It just strikes me as very strange that nothing at all happened to cause the loss of dorsiflexion. Usually (from what I've read) there is a specific cause to the injury
Foot drop can be associated with a variety of conditions such as dorsiflexor injuries, peripheral nerve injuries, stroke, neuropathies, drug toxicities, or diabetes.


But then, this could apply aswell:
A common behavioral cause of foot drop is habitual crossing of the legs.5 These cases typically resolve with discontinuation of the habit.


Just a note...
A spontaneous unilateral foot drop in a previously healthy patient requires further investigation into metabolic causes, including diabetes, alcohol abuse, and exposure to toxins. The following tests would be helpful:

* Fasting blood sugar
* Hemoglobin A1c
* Erythrocyte sedimentation rate
* C-reactive protein
* Serum protein electrophoresis/immunoelectro-osmophoresis
* BUN
* Creatinine
* Vitamin B-12 levels

ER's in general suck so my best bet would to talk to an specialist on the matter (an orthopaedic).

Best regards,

1st year med stutent

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1234607-overview <- article my quotations are from.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
November 08 2010 01:23 GMT
#3388
Hi guys, thanks for the input. I'm sure something happened, the question is if it was from the gym (weird that it would be delayed by nearly 48 hours and without serious pain that I can recall), sitting on my shitty office chair or some other cause. I did have some weird shingles-like rash on my head a month ago that caused some strange referred pain in my jaw/tooth region (teeth were flawless according to my dentist and x-rays), so it could even be some sort of zoster-type virus.

They did take blood in the ER and I'm scheduling a EMG/NCS ASAP and will see a neurologist or neurosurgeon. In the meantime I'm trying to lie in bed as much as possible, sit as little as possible, and have ordered a saddle-type chair which is supposed to promote better posture by making the angle between your spine and femur less acute when you're sitting. I'm also planning on getting a motorized desk (www.geekdesk.com) which will allow me to alternate sitting and standing while I use the computer.

I'll check into doing some more stretches but I haven't had any real loss of sensation, which is odd. At first things felt really weird but I think it was because I no longer had those stabilizing muscles activated on my foot so it felt strangely heavy and detached (but not numb). Now I've adapted a little more but walking gives me back and ankle pain because, again, I'm straining to keep my foot stabilized since the intended musculature is not doing its job.

Right now I think it's either some weird viral thing (I guess herpes viruses travel through your nervous system?) or I did something to my nerves doing lunges or donkey calf raises at the gym. I much prefer standing calf raises but my gym doesn't have a machine. If/when this gets resolved I'll be sure to just do seated calves and use a Smith Machine for standing calves rather than be lazy and use the shitty donkey calf/sled-type machine at my gym.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
November 08 2010 02:14 GMT
#3389
i was planning on buying some fish oil.

would this be a decent brand?

http://www.cenovis.com.ph/products/heart-health/fish-oil-forte.aspx
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 08 2010 04:45 GMT
#3390
http://www.iherb.com/Natural-Factors-RxOmega-3-Factors-Pharmaceutical-Grade-120-Softgels/2717?at=0

Those are what I use. The pills you've posted have a couple things I personally don't like;

1) Very low levels of EPA/DHA. 175/75 mg vs. 400/200 in the capsules I posted. You would need two and a half pills to equal one of the other ones.

2) it comes in a bottle of 60 capsules? Combined with the first point, you're going to go through these pretty quickly.

3) it doesn't list a cost, but I have yet to find capsules equivalent to the ones I linked for NEARLY so cheap. They stock them at my local health store, but they're about double the cost. Glad I found this site =)
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 08 2010 05:15 GMT
#3391
I use liquid fish oil:

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Answer-Liquid-Omega-3-Deep-Sea-Fish-Oil-EPA-DHA-Natural-Orange-Flavor-16-fl-oz-480-ml/7908?at=0
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-08 12:07:17
November 08 2010 12:05 GMT
#3392
thanks guys for the prompt responses. i'll see if i can get either of those around here.

if not i'll try to post info about the brands that are available.
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
ApolloSC2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom804 Posts
November 08 2010 14:34 GMT
#3393
argh I did bicep and back workout 2days ago, today should be another training day but my arms are locked up, should I do some light tricep work to loosen them?
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 08 2010 16:30 GMT
#3394
You sure it won't loosen up when you warm up?
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
November 08 2010 21:40 GMT
#3395
On November 08 2010 23:34 d.Apollo wrote:
argh I did bicep and back workout 2days ago, today should be another training day but my arms are locked up, should I do some light tricep work to loosen them?


personally, I find that when you really push yourself, anything less than 4 days of recovery is too little for me. perhaps it's time to move on to a new program?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
November 08 2010 21:50 GMT
#3396
On November 08 2010 14:15 eshlow wrote:
I use liquid fish oil:

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Answer-Liquid-Omega-3-Deep-Sea-Fish-Oil-EPA-DHA-Natural-Orange-Flavor-16-fl-oz-480-ml/7908?at=0


How long does that usually last you?

Being random on my DL's today, did 5x 225 315 345 380. Cant wait till next week when i can start deadlifting real heavy and not worry about being ready for games on the weekend
Restarted my chart thing for bench @ a max of 275 and did 10x135 150 170 190 200
Finished up with weighted chins and pathetic attempt at dips(chest/tris were shot from bench)

My buddy got yelled at for doing powercleans because apparantly they are a distraction and too loud...But another guy said he would talk to that manager. Hope i can still do them Might have to find somewhere else.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 08 2010 22:05 GMT
#3397
On November 09 2010 06:50 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 14:15 eshlow wrote:
I use liquid fish oil:

http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Answer-Liquid-Omega-3-Deep-Sea-Fish-Oil-EPA-DHA-Natural-Orange-Flavor-16-fl-oz-480-ml/7908?at=0


How long does that usually last you?


Depends on how much you take per day....

Fortunately, someone has done the math

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmbiSG9xZH4adDFRU2txaTE5Nmxad25DR3FlMGxYMFE&hl=en#gid=0

The liquid fish oil above is not listed on the chart but it comes out to
96 servings *1.3 g EPA+DHA per serving / 1500 cents = .0832 cents per 1 g EPA/DHA

So cost wise its as good as any of the cheapest capsuled fish oil.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
November 08 2010 22:17 GMT
#3398
If you are dropping regular plates after doing PC's I'm not surprised the gym manager gets pissed off. Rubber plates or returning the bar slowly shouldn't be a problem though...

Today's workout:

Pullups: BW+7,5kg x 5 x 5 (+2,5kg)
BB Row: 70kg x 10 and 82,5kg x 5 x 5 (strict form, +2,5kg)
Pulldowns: 13pl x 8 and 16pl x 10 (+2 reps)
DB Rows: 47,5kg x 8 (+2,5kg)

Pretty happy, 30th training session in row I set a PR in.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
November 08 2010 23:51 GMT
#3399
A rubber 45 with the smaller weights being metal so yeah it's pretty dumb.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-09 01:27:14
November 09 2010 01:15 GMT
#3400
today, was possibly my top3 worst gym days, and I don't even know the other two days .

I went and did my warmup sets, feeling some "annoyance" on my leg, I was fine, when I loaded my 100kg total, I got down, and stayed there, couldn't bring the bar up. I think it's due to not resting enough, fuck my fucking life.

my arm/shoulder, is also in pain, Imma rest it a bit, and well, see how it goes.

I think I need to rest it a bit, are there some "recovery" workouts I could use for this week and see how my pain progresses or some shit ?

did Squat 3x5 (80kg)
benchpress with 30kg (rofl)
deadlift...none

damn this pain.

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