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Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
August 14 2010 01:59 GMT
#2061
On August 14 2010 02:09 decafchicken wrote:
Anything I should do for my wrist besides tape the fuck out of it?


Can of concrete! Drink it, harden the fuck up!

Go get 'em!!
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 02:47:51
August 14 2010 02:47 GMT
#2062
my deadlifts up to 120 kg, but im doing it 3x10 with 12 rep warmup set of 80 kg

squat is up to 110 kg, also 3x 10 w/ warmup

bench staying behind, only 70 kg 3x10, think this is cuz of my hassle with the shoulder injury

wonder how my numbers would stack up if i was doin ss or 5x5, maybe it's time
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Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 04:50:38
August 14 2010 04:49 GMT
#2063
That's a pretty psycho warm up. Although I am doing ss. For squats I warm up with like 6-7 reps on the empty bar, add 20kg, 3-4 reps, add 20kg, 3-4 reps, add 40kg, 2-3 reps, add enough weight for my 5x5 weight, wait a few minutes and then 5 x 5 with 3-4 min rest in between.


By the way ret, you've turned into a beast! Great job!
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 09:50:33
August 14 2010 09:36 GMT
#2064
hehe I do some playing around with the empty bar as well and recently I have been doing more than just one warmup set for just deadlift and squat, i just dont start counting till i do the 12 rep one

When I do multiple warmup sets for bench it actually wears me out to the point where I feel my muscles cant recover fully for the actual weight :/
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ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
August 14 2010 11:29 GMT
#2065
On August 12 2010 10:26 decafchicken wrote:
Last day before deadlift max, did 10x225 8x345 6x375 4x400 2x430 1x455 + Show Spoiler [VIDZ OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN] +

Did the last rep with a belt and it felt pretty easy. well not easy but i feel like i should own 485 and possibly go for 5 plates...if i dare :-O
Managed to do shoulder presses up to 95 pounds for the first time since like june, it doesnt hurt too bad if i dont wrap my thumb around the bar.

Those are awesome numbers, but I was wondering: Isn't it dangerous to do 1 rep max sets?
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
August 14 2010 11:38 GMT
#2066
On August 14 2010 20:29 ShAsTa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2010 10:26 decafchicken wrote:
Last day before deadlift max, did 10x225 8x345 6x375 4x400 2x430 1x455 + Show Spoiler [VIDZ OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aj9CG-KNvE

Did the last rep with a belt and it felt pretty easy. well not easy but i feel like i should own 485 and possibly go for 5 plates...if i dare :-O
Managed to do shoulder presses up to 95 pounds for the first time since like june, it doesnt hurt too bad if i dont wrap my thumb around the bar.

Those are awesome numbers, but I was wondering: Isn't it dangerous to do 1 rep max sets?


Why would it be, especially for deadlifts. If the weight is too heavy, nothing happens, the bar just doesn't move.

Squats or Bench could be more dangerous, but only if you are totally off with your numbers. If you think "yesterday I did 300, let's try 350 today", then yes, it is probably dangerous. If you just try 310 and it is too heavy, there is always ways to get rid of the weight before you get toasted.

Besides that, if you challenge yourself with a 1RM or 5RM is basically the same. The fifth rep on a 5RM should be as hard as it gets, you should have to give it your all like in a 1RM. Some people even think higher rep maxes are more dangerous, because there is much more that could go wrong during a long and heavy set.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 14 2010 13:56 GMT
#2067
There is a 5RM formula that you can calculate your 1RM. It's about 99% accurate.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
August 14 2010 14:38 GMT
#2068
On August 14 2010 11:47 ret wrote:
my deadlifts up to 120 kg, but im doing it 3x10 with 12 rep warmup set of 80 kg

squat is up to 110 kg, also 3x 10 w/ warmup

bench staying behind, only 70 kg 3x10, think this is cuz of my hassle with the shoulder injury

wonder how my numbers would stack up if i was doin ss or 5x5, maybe it's time


How long have you been lifting? IIRC, you just recently started. It seems that you may be gifted in terms of strength if your squat is already at 110kg.

Deloading sucks. I started this deload on Wednesday when I went to the gym and had absolutely zero motivation for what I was doing after my set of squats, and now it's Saturday. My gym re-opens next Friday, so next week is going to be pretty rough. I might as well brush up on my SC2 while I have the time.

eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 14 2010 15:19 GMT
#2069
There's nothing wrong with working 1 RM stuff... but in general you shouldn't do it all the time. It's not enough volume for progress, and if your form deteriorates it's a slightly increased risk for injury. I usually try to get up in 1-3 RM every couple weeks.. let's me know where I'm at regarding progress.


SS would be good for you ret IF your form is pretty good so far. Looks like some pretty good numbers overall. Also, if warmup is tiring you out then cut down on the reps. THey don't have to be higher than your work sets.

If you were working up to say 120kg for a set of 3x10 like you were I might start with something like 60kg 1x8; 100 kg 1x3; then hit up 120kg for your 3x10.

The point of warmups isn't to tire you out.. it's to get your body warmed up to work with heavier weight. If it's fatiguing you then either drop weight or cut some reps.. and focus on accelerating the bar to get thebody warm
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 14 2010 16:18 GMT
#2070
I'll post the 1RM/5RM formula for anyone who doesn't read MF already later.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
August 15 2010 04:25 GMT
#2071
On August 15 2010 01:18 JunZ wrote:
I'll post the 1RM/5RM formula for anyone who doesn't read MF already later.


I'd like to see that formula. I often calculate my 1RM with an Excel file I have, but I'd like a formula I could work through too.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 15 2010 05:16 GMT
#2072
eh... your 1rm is what you did in the gym. I wouldnt use a formula or some paper to say what your 1rm "should" be.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
August 15 2010 05:27 GMT
#2073
True. Man up and try it out
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 06:00:01
August 15 2010 05:58 GMT
#2074
your official 1RM would be the one you did in the gym. the computed 1RM should only serve as a ballpark figure since they seem pretty accurate (tried one with weighted pull ups and it was very close to my actual).

computed 1RM -> http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

went jogging again after like a year of no jogging. goal initially was to run 3km but after about 300m my left foot started to burn/fatigue. i tried my best to land midfoot but it was just too tiring for my feet so i ended up going heel-toe instead.

managed to go 1km but that was way short of my original goal. interesting though to note that had i not been lifting weights, i definitely wouldn't have been able to complete the 1km at the pace i was running.

"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Energies
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Australia3225 Posts
August 15 2010 07:03 GMT
#2075
I'm going through that initial stage of low carb diet, cravings. The only carbs I am getting is from milk and some dry fruit/nuts.

I just ate a pound of beef stir fry and 1/2 glass of milk and I'm still getting that itch...
"Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder but dont nobody wanna lift no heavy ass weight" - Ronnie Coleman.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
August 15 2010 19:12 GMT
#2076
On August 15 2010 14:58 unknown.sam wrote:
your official 1RM would be the one you did in the gym. the computed 1RM should only serve as a ballpark figure since they seem pretty accurate (tried one with weighted pull ups and it was very close to my actual).

computed 1RM -> http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

went jogging again after like a year of no jogging. goal initially was to run 3km but after about 300m my left foot started to burn/fatigue. i tried my best to land midfoot but it was just too tiring for my feet so i ended up going heel-toe instead.

managed to go 1km but that was way short of my original goal. interesting though to note that had i not been lifting weights, i definitely wouldn't have been able to complete the 1km at the pace i was running.


Try lifting barefoot, since I started doing thqt I haven't had foot pain while running or standing
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 22:09:35
August 15 2010 21:29 GMT
#2077
We went undefeated in my rugby tourney this weekend, 3-0 including beating the team that killed us last year. Managed to score twice and had a ton of good runs (need to work on my finishing speed god dammit, did break some kids ankles in open field though ^_^) as well as the greatest hit of my life. Shoulder into stomach, lift, turn, and smash into the ground. It felt amazing.
+ Show Spoiler [Pretty much exactly like @ 2:40] +

Could feel my strength and conditioning affecting my ability to run through tackles and make them all day.
I feel like i got ran over by a train though, everything is fucking sore T_T Time to recover so i can max out deads wheee

On August 15 2010 16:03 Energies wrote:
I'm going through that initial stage of low carb diet, cravings. The only carbs I am getting is from milk and some dry fruit/nuts.

I just ate a pound of beef stir fry and 1/2 glass of milk and I'm still getting that itch...


I never get cravings for carbs lol. Meat just tastes sooo much better. Guess i'm not really cutting out carbs a lot though, they are still like 30% of my diet
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
JivyC
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada7 Posts
August 16 2010 00:11 GMT
#2078
Hey everybody, I'm currently a second year university student working security when I'm not in school. (For those with experience as a student or security, you can imagine how hard it is to stay healthy =])

Name: Jivy Chen
Age: 18 || Height: ~5'5" || Weight: 145 lbs
Starting Date: xx/xx/xx || Goal Date: lifetime
Weight goals -- [140-150 lbs]
Training goals -- [lower body fat percentage, explosive muscles, excellent cardio]
Nutrition goals -- [QUITTING JUNK FOOD]
Misc goals -- [wants to be light on my feet, fix posture]

I'm already currently pretty active. During school, I go to the gym in between classes or after classes usually to do strength training. I recently took up muay thai classes to help work on my cardio/endurance/explosiveness as well as getting more tough.

Recently, I decided to quit eating junk food in order to save money as well as reduce my unhealthy fat intake. I don't think I am fat, I am considered skinny by most people however, my issue is that when i sit down and slouch (bad habit that i'm working on) I notice all my belly fat and it seems quite large to me. When I'm standing or sitting upright my body seems to have good composition, it's jsut when I bend over and slouch I notice this.

Does anybody else have similar experiences? Is this because I have too much belly fat even though I seem normal when I'm upright? Any insight would make me thankful ~
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SweetNJoshSauce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States468 Posts
August 16 2010 00:26 GMT
#2079
On August 16 2010 09:11 JivyC wrote:
Hey everybody, I'm currently a second year university student working security when I'm not in school. (For those with experience as a student or security, you can imagine how hard it is to stay healthy =])

Name: Jivy Chen
Age: 18 || Height: ~5'5" || Weight: 145 lbs
Starting Date: xx/xx/xx || Goal Date: lifetime
Weight goals -- [140-150 lbs]
Training goals -- [lower body fat percentage, explosive muscles, excellent cardio]
Nutrition goals -- [QUITTING JUNK FOOD]
Misc goals -- [wants to be light on my feet, fix posture]

I'm already currently pretty active. During school, I go to the gym in between classes or after classes usually to do strength training. I recently took up muay thai classes to help work on my cardio/endurance/explosiveness as well as getting more tough.

Recently, I decided to quit eating junk food in order to save money as well as reduce my unhealthy fat intake. I don't think I am fat, I am considered skinny by most people however, my issue is that when i sit down and slouch (bad habit that i'm working on) I notice all my belly fat and it seems quite large to me. When I'm standing or sitting upright my body seems to have good composition, it's jsut when I bend over and slouch I notice this.

Does anybody else have similar experiences? Is this because I have too much belly fat even though I seem normal when I'm upright? Any insight would make me thankful ~


I know exactly what you mean. Theres not a whole lot you can do about it though. When I slouch and see by stomach puff out I can reassure myself that I'm ok by tightening my stomach and my abs bust through all that skin.

Also, even when I wear a tighter shirt I notice that when standing up my stomach does not stick unlike most people(well I live America hahaha) so hopefully you have a similardeal. Good luck!
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
August 16 2010 01:31 GMT
#2080
On August 16 2010 09:11 JivyC wrote:
Hey everybody, I'm currently a second year university student working security when I'm not in school. (For those with experience as a student or security, you can imagine how hard it is to stay healthy =])

Name: Jivy Chen
Age: 18 || Height: ~5'5" || Weight: 145 lbs
Starting Date: xx/xx/xx || Goal Date: lifetime
Weight goals -- [140-150 lbs]
Training goals -- [lower body fat percentage, explosive muscles, excellent cardio]
Nutrition goals -- [QUITTING JUNK FOOD]
Misc goals -- [wants to be light on my feet, fix posture]

I'm already currently pretty active. During school, I go to the gym in between classes or after classes usually to do strength training. I recently took up muay thai classes to help work on my cardio/endurance/explosiveness as well as getting more tough.

Recently, I decided to quit eating junk food in order to save money as well as reduce my unhealthy fat intake. I don't think I am fat, I am considered skinny by most people however, my issue is that when i sit down and slouch (bad habit that i'm working on) I notice all my belly fat and it seems quite large to me. When I'm standing or sitting upright my body seems to have good composition, it's jsut when I bend over and slouch I notice this.

Does anybody else have similar experiences? Is this because I have too much belly fat even though I seem normal when I'm upright? Any insight would make me thankful ~


Mine used to get flabby when bending and figured it was normal but now since i'm probably ~9-10% bf now i dont really have it at all and is mostly ab muscle lol.

And its not hard to put on wait as a student...just eat a ton of good food and hit the gym (starting strength, nutrition info in OP)
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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