In-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 240

On November 18 2015 08:47 Buckyman wrote:
My current starting items on Medusa: Salve/RoP/Mango/1xTangos/Branch/(slot reserved for boots)

I think this is a significant improvement over the current RoP/2xTangos/2xBranch/(2 empty slots) that floats 100 leftover gold.

Also, I would complete the starting items in the order Basi->Treads->Aquila, because it means the sustainable snake spam comes online earlier.

On November 19 2015 14:40 Buckyman wrote:

This isn't indicated at all in the guide's items. And since the guide gives no hint on the matter, it should use a different set of starting items.


In my practice games with the Mango start, it's usually eaten in the level 3-6 range to restart the snake spam after a miss.

On November 16 2015 12:42 Torte de Lini wrote:


Heyo,

I am looking at the following:

On November 17 2015 09:02 Belisarius wrote:
I would personally consider radi oct mid and some kind of fighting build safelane, like blink medallion. You could also do radi oct for both. I don't think you can ignore that build at this point, even though it's not the only way to play him.

As always, I'm against dual builds. I think you should pick one or the other and do it properly.

Dusa is just really awkward this meta, but I don't know that the answer is to try and shoehorn the antithesis of a fighting carry into a fighting build. That said, I'm not opposed to switching yasha for drums.

Weaver is also just really weak. Deso is great if they can't kill you, but he gets exploded way too easily right now to beeline it every game. Something like roa>urn>(bkb)>deso is probably okay. He's always gonna be weaver though.

I like linkens more than most but the buildup is so awkward. 75% of newbies doing Linkens weaver probably end up with a perseverance, a recipe and no ancient.

Doom is way too strong in lane to put him in jungle. I'm opposed to jungle cores in general, but jungle doom is a straight-up travesty when he basically gets to farm heroes if he goes to a lane.

If you want to switch tusk to 4pos you're looking at all the usual greaves/blink/solar/force/glimmer stuff. He's relatively item-independent if he's not planning to solokill people.

On November 21 2015 14:39 Thetwinmasters wrote:
please remove manta from extension on medusa its so terribly bad

On November 21 2015 14:47 Thetwinmasters wrote:

bad at sieging cause illusions melt instantly cause they don't get mana shield have terrible damage in fights is negative ehp if you use the active and if they have extremely annoying debuffs you just get bkb instead.

On November 24 2015 02:07 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't think kunkka mid is a mango hero since he's a bottle hero i'm pretty sure like every other mid hero.
dunno about lane i'm a mango non-believer on most heroes tbh .

I'm also seriously not sold on the "first point in tidebringer at 10" idea
tidebringer is your best farming skill, and the "static a lane" stage of the game is done loooooooong before you reach level 10. Torrent doesn't improve THAT much level over level (60 dmg, 1s slow, thats it) and tidebringer adds a lot to your hero combo damage too.

Level 2 ult is situationally quite skippable. 100 dmg is nice true but the cd reduction is quite irrelevant and the mana cost increase is non-negligible. Plus depending on your build i'd rather be 2-4-4-1 at 11 than taking a point out of x or tidebringer (tidebringer 4 is a notable value point).

Thing is, u max torrent if you have a teammate to set it up but then you don't need x very much, and if need to dump points into x for self setup then u can't max torrent in the first place (and really after 2-0-3-1 at 6 to combo people, your solo kill potential goes up more from w/e than q). Rarely do you need to max both (in lane).

Not sure how much sense that all made but tldr is torrent scales like ass and 4-0-4-1 is a very hard support build that i'm skeptical of.

On November 24 2015 03:02 Buckyman wrote:
Kunkka (Lane) - "Blink Dagger is more effective and cannot be encountered by any consumable"