EPTIn-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 230
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TheYango
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QEQW just doesn't really make any sense because Aftershock only accomplishes anything with Enchant or Ulti. | ||
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which is pretty often | ||
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 back on the "unsure" list. Off-hand, I want to move S&Y to Core and Aghs to Extension.That or re-introduce a split build between Caster and Auto-Attacker. Have to double-check skill build too On a different note Windranger (Middle) has also gained a lot of recent popularity. She's being rated up to the top right now. | ||
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BluemoonSC
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satanic should probably be situational for after carries get their mkbs. i also might switch blink and maelstrom in the core items, perhaps adding a value point booster in there somewhere. in addition, lothar should definitely be in situational as well. | ||
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TheYango
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If you already have something like Mobility item + Agha + 1 damage item + BKB, and feel like you're super justified in needing a SECOND survivability item rather than a 2nd damage item or a utility item, then Satanic's probably fine, but I think ending up in that kind of scenario is pretty rare because it's not like WR actually wants to be in a situation where she only has 1 damage item and is just facetanking things. | ||
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But I do think Lothar should be in there along with the shuffle of maelstrom and blink dagger if you're gonna include maelstrom in her build. I remember specifically talking with yango about how it has to pretty much be first item or its not worth it. | ||
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 TimbersawNew Skill Build: E Q W W W R W Q Q Q R E E E R (1. Timber Chain 2. Whirling Death 3. Reactive Armor) Added Enchanted Mango to Starting Items Removed Clarity x2  PugnaAdded Magic wand to Core Items Added Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items Moved Force Staff to Extension Items Moved Veil of Discord to Extension Items  EarthshakerNew Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q E E E R W W W R (1. Fissue 2. Aftershock 2. Enchant Totem) Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity Moved Force Staff to Extension Items  MiranaMoved Mjollnir to Extension Items  Tiny (Lane) Tiny (Middle)Removed Shiva's Guard Windranger (Middle) Added Orchid of Malevolence to Situational Items Moved Force Staff to Core Items Moved Blink Dagger to Situational Items Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items Removed Mjollnir Windranger (Lane) Moved Black King Bar to Extension Items Removed Mjollnir To watch for
Hero Texts Updated:   (Lane/Middle)(Lane/Middle)  (Jungle/Lane)  (Lane/Middle)  (Lane/Middle)   (Jungle/Lane)    (Jungle/Lane)     (Middle/Lane) I think players will enjoy the "combo" cheat-sheet I added in some of the ability descriptions. I am overhauling all text to include these cheat-sheets, better nuances of some of the heroes and a one-phrase "flaw" of their's in the general description. It's a slow process, but we have until 6.86 (1 1/2 months). | ||
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43 guide texts updated. Will push for two more tomorrow. stats tomorrow, where will celebrate 100 million subscriptions Article detailing it all probably in end of two weeks. I feel a lot of guides are severely behind in their builds; but time is really lacking for me right now. | ||
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Buckyman
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On October 14 2015 15:40 Torte de Lini wrote: I feel a lot of guides are severely behind in their builds; but time is really lacking for me right now. Is there anything I can help with? | ||
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It's just a verification process: To watch for
as I update each guide with new text, I also double-check the build. I haven't been keeping up with the latest matches, so I'm not in tune with what is currently being played. | ||
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Publishing Changes | ||
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Stancel
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I'd suggest a mango as a starting item instead of the soulring recipe, the burst mana could be an extra ion shell+surge if necessary and vacuum's manacost and cd are high enough that it isn't worth using it for flash farming, just use a second or even a third ion shell instead if you need early regen, ferry out tangos/clarities or buy a RoR from the sideshop to use it for a headdress later, you can also use the tangos to farm the radiant small+medium camp at the same time after pushing out bot lane (as dire off) | ||
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On October 15 2015 01:26 Stancel wrote: I don't think soulring is core on DS anymore - optional maybe, but definitely not a must. Arcanes would be your first item since it's part of Greaves anyway, and you don't need both Arcanes+Soulring when that 800 (from SR) could have been an earlier Energy Booster or even a casual cloak/buckler I'd suggest a mango as a starting item instead of the soulring recipe, the burst mana could be an extra ion shell+surge if necessary and vacuum's manacost and cd are high enough that it isn't worth using it for flash farming, just use a second or even a third ion shell instead if you need early regen, ferry out tangos/clarities or buy a RoR from the sideshop to use it for a headdress later, you can also use the tangos to farm the radiant small+medium camp at the same time after pushing out bot lane (as dire off) You typically get the Arcane Boots second and the Meka first I believe. So Soul Ring still has value and Guardian Greaves comes later. I'll fix the build to remark the order. | ||
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TheYango
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There are games where SR won't impact your lane, but most of the time in pubs the lane stayability and farming sustainability pays off. In general as a sidelaner you don't want to fall back on ferrying regen as a plan because courier time disruption heavily impacts mid lane. While I'm a huge proponent of later game clarity usage, early game sidelane courier usage bears a far heavier cost than just the gold value of the items you're sending. | ||
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itemization needs to be redone, wait for patch to play out
skill order 
redo Lane/Middle build for Kunkka again
double-check item build
double-check item build
