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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 21:05:43
October 14 2015 21:03 GMT
#4601
After ~15 days (September 29th to October 14th), we have risen from 99,400,275 to 101,613,471 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,213,196
Average Growth of subscribers is 700,782.56
Growth Percentage is 2.23%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Brewmaster (Middle) (45,167)
  2. Windranger (Middle) (38,641)
  3. Shadow Shaman (Middle) (1,457)
  4. Warlock (Middle) (1,374)
  5. Alchemist (Middle) (1,353)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Lifestealer (Jungle)
  2. Sven
  3. Phantom Lancer
  4. Juggernaut
  5. Necrophos


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Timbersaw (992,595 -> 1,012,205)
  • Crystal Maiden (987,461 -> 1,005,451)
  • Slardar (857,945 -> 881,270)
  • Lina (Middle) (392,556 -> 422,155)
  • Windranger (MIddle) (1,621 -> 38,641)


Newly Released Guides:




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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-10-14 21:11:46
    October 14 2015 21:11 GMT
    #4602
    • Growth of Subscribers stays steady above 2 million (since May 1)

    • 14.64% of last month's unique players [10,960,774] are subscribed to the our highest subscribed guide: Lifestealer (Jungle) Guide

    • Crystal Maiden recently hit the 1 million mark (1,005,451)
    • Timbersaw recently hit the 1 million mark (1,012,205)

    • Nine guides are currently swimming towards the 1 million mark: Morphling (997,472), Terrorblade (985,005), Viper (983,270), Clinkz (978,242), Broodmother (977,485), Huskar (977,096), Queen of Pain (968,217), Razor (967,427), Nature's Prophet (966,937)

    • Top 26 guides are approx. 1Mill subscribers or higher each
    • Top 41 guides are approx. 900k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 59 guides are approx. 800k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 78 guides are approx. 700k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 99 guides are approx. 600k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 116 guides are approx. 500k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 127 guides are approx. 400k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 134 guides are approx. 300k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 141 guides are approx. 200k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 143 guides are approx. 100k subscribers or higher each
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    Buckyman
    Profile Joined May 2014
    1364 Posts
    October 14 2015 22:14 GMT
    #4603
    Medusa - Mana shield description - "an access amount of mana" is a typo; should be "excess"?
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    October 14 2015 22:31 GMT
    #4604
    On October 15 2015 07:14 Buckyman wrote:
    Medusa - Mana shield description - "an access amount of mana" is a typo; should be "excess"?


    yes, fixed
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    Gamerhcp
    Profile Joined May 2015
    734 Posts
    October 14 2015 23:01 GMT
    #4605
    I'm surprised QoP didn't hit 1 million already. So op
    Hello
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    October 14 2015 23:04 GMT
    #4606
    On October 15 2015 08:01 Gamerhcp wrote:
    I'm surprised QoP didn't hit 1 million already. So op


    There's a solid 300,000 users here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=128837247
    We've been slowing sipping away users from it, but that's the second majority holding.
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-10-17 22:45:25
    October 15 2015 00:25 GMT
    #4607
    ed
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    October 15 2015 04:21 GMT
    #4608
    [image loading]


    Rudimentary graph, but we've officially hit 100,000,000 subscriptions
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    October 17 2015 07:31 GMT
    #4609
    Some Arc Warden changes that could be very interesting in terms of builds: http://imgur.com/a/n81ud
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    tehh4ck3r
    Profile Joined August 2013
    Magrathea7063 Posts
    October 17 2015 07:57 GMT
    #4610
    idk how that changes anything? you were going to build manta and midas on the hero anyways and those are bug fixes that make the dota 2 behavior consistent with dota 1 so it shouldnt change the build
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    TheYango
    Profile Joined September 2008
    United States47024 Posts
    October 17 2015 15:34 GMT
    #4611
    On October 17 2015 16:57 tehh4ck3r wrote:
    idk how that changes anything? you were going to build manta and midas on the hero anyways and those are bug fixes that make the dota 2 behavior consistent with dota 1 so it shouldnt change the build

    This. Those are all parity changes, and any knowledge about the hero is based on DotA 1 to begin with.
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    October 17 2015 16:59 GMT
    #4612
    Good to know.
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    October 17 2015 17:14 GMT
    #4613
    [image loading]

    1 million unique for Morphling

    If interested in a timeline of 1 million hits and milestones, you can check it here: http://steamcommunity.com/id/0825771
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-10-18 17:50:04
    October 17 2015 18:58 GMT
    #4614
    ed
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    Belisarius
    Profile Joined November 2010
    Australia6233 Posts
    October 17 2015 21:30 GMT
    #4615
    A manta first morphling build hit 1 million. That's actually disgusting. I swear he wasn't manta first the last time I looked at that guide.

    I am strongly of the opinion that Linkens -> eblade is still standard. Regardless, manta first is awful on heroes not called PL, especially ranged ones.
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-10-17 21:45:31
    October 17 2015 21:39 GMT
    #4616
    On October 18 2015 06:30 Belisarius wrote:
    A manta first morphling build hit 1 million. That's actually disgusting. I swear he wasn't manta first the last time I looked at that guide.

    I am strongly of the opinion that Linkens -> eblade is still standard. Regardless, manta first is awful on heroes not called PL, especially ranged ones.


    Was changed 3 months ago: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/the-tavern/453377-in-game-standard-hero-builds-100-million-subscriptions?page=188#3742

    Then later changed to: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/the-tavern/453377-in-game-standard-hero-builds-100-million-subscriptions?page=220#4387 in 6.85
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    TheYango
    Profile Joined September 2008
    United States47024 Posts
    October 17 2015 22:02 GMT
    #4617
    This seems like a problem of the core/situational/extension items system where you're more likely to buy Manta at all than the situational items, but will almost always buy ONE of the situational items FIRST.
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    Belisarius
    Profile Joined November 2010
    Australia6233 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-10-17 23:38:02
    October 17 2015 23:33 GMT
    #4618
    I still don't think I'd ever buy manta after BKB or Linkens. You have 10-12k gold into items and like 2k worth of damage with that progression, and you probably don't even need the dispel if you have one of the others. Manta is like 3rd item minimum.

    I guess it can be first if you screwed up your progression and their qop gets orchid when you have a casual yasha or something, but at that point you're not doing a build you're trying to save a trainwreck.
    TheYango
    Profile Joined September 2008
    United States47024 Posts
    October 18 2015 03:23 GMT
    #4619
    I mean the fundamental problem is that Morph is one of those heroes that doesn't really buy the same items every game, and Manta's probably the closest thing to an item Morph buys reasonably often.

    TBH Morph's one of those heroes that I wouldn't want guide-level players to get anywhere near lol.
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-10-18 03:49:31
    October 18 2015 03:48 GMT
    #4620
    Here's the competition: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129186551

    565k subscriptions




    I don't like the situational items on Morphling and would prefer different ones in Situational (maybe Black King Bar and Aghs) and start separating Extension items into Luxury + Extension.

    If Manta Style is a buy-first or buy never thing, then either his core needs to be dictated to the style preferred or simply throw Manta Style is situation with a note specifying its timing.
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