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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 13 2015 21:27 GMT
#4321
Publishing, Checkpoint Stats coming in 2 hours or so.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
September 13 2015 21:31 GMT
#4322
i noticed this while watching rtz use your guide for pudge; you don't have stout shield in your pudge mid guide... i don't think you get it every game but i don't think you never get it either... not that i'm a pudge mid expert
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 13 2015 21:50 GMT
#4323
You don't max Flux first on Arc Warden. The skill does basically nothing in laning situations (creeps count for disabling Flux). It's primary use is for punishing people you catch alone in river and for that you get more damage off of Spark Wraith than Flux (which you use mostly for the slow).
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 22:02:29
September 13 2015 21:59 GMT
#4324
On September 14 2015 06:50 TheYango wrote:
You don't max Flux first on Arc Warden. The skill does basically nothing in laning situations (creeps count for disabling Flux). It's primary use is for punishing people you catch alone in river and for that you get more damage off of Spark Wraith than Flux (which you use mostly for the slow).


Does Spark Wraith target heroes or allies when coming into contact?

ed: I will swap it

It's swapped, see above.

Skill Build: E Q E W E R E Q Q Q R W W W R (1. Spark Wraith 2. Flux 3. Magnetic Field)

I put an earlier point in W (lvl 4)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-14 09:47:29
September 14 2015 08:34 GMT
#4325
After ~15 days (August 30 to September 14), we have risen from 95,285,977 to 97,316,403 combined subscriptions

A difference of 2,030,426
Average Growth of subscribers is 671,147.61
Growth Percentage is 2.13%


5 least popular guides (bottom being the least popular):
  1. Brewmaster (Middle) (26,385)
  2. Windranger (Middle) (1371)
  3. Shadow Shaman (Middle) (1369)
  4. Warlock (Middle) (1292)
  5. Alchemist (Middle) (980)


5 most popular guides (top being the most popular):
  1. Lifestealer (Jungle)
  2. Sven
  3. Juggernaut
  4. Phantom Lancer
  5. Necrophos


Notable Growths in Subscriptions:
  • Phantom Lancer (1,215,396 -> 1,243,783)
  • Phantom Assassin (986,696 -> 1,010,555)
  • Pudge (588,824 -> 607,434)
  • Lina (Middle) (319,939 -> 357,215)


Newly Released Guides:




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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    September 14 2015 08:43 GMT
    #4326
    • Growth of Subscribers stays steady above 2 million (since May 1)

    • 13.22% of last month's unique players [11,871,164] are subscribed to the Lifestealer (Jungle) Guide

    • Phantom Assassin recently hit the 1 million mark (1,010,555)

    • Four guides are currently swimming towards the 1 million mark: Witch Doctor (983,193), Timbersaw (974,279), Crystal Maiden (969,275), Morphling (968,112)

    • Top 22 guides are approx. 1Mill subscribers or higher each
    • Top 38 guides are approx. 900k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 54 guides are approx. 800k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 72 guides are approx. 700k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 94 guides are approx. 600k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 107 guides are approx. 500k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 124 guides are approx. 400k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 132 guides are approx. 300k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 141 guides are approx. 200k subscribers or higher each
    • Top 142 guides are approx. 100k subscribers or higher each
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    SpiritoftheTunA
    Profile Blog Joined August 2006
    United States20903 Posts
    September 14 2015 16:37 GMT
    #4327
    On September 14 2015 06:31 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
    i noticed this while watching rtz use your guide for pudge; you don't have stout shield in your pudge mid guide... i don't think you get it every game but i don't think you never get it either... not that i'm a pudge mid expert

    yango if you don't voice your opinion on this one way or the other i believe torte's going to ignore me completely

    and i'm curious for my own sake anyhow
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    TheYango
    Profile Joined September 2008
    United States47024 Posts
    September 14 2015 17:25 GMT
    #4328
    Stout's kinda ok but not really necessary for Pudge. Idk I don't really play Pudge, so it's not something I can explain really well.
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    Belisarius
    Profile Joined November 2010
    Australia6233 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-09-16 05:31:19
    September 15 2015 22:49 GMT
    #4329
    These guides have never been able to convey situational starting items well. Most of the time it's just going to be safer to bottle rush.

    For one thing, it's often hard to even guess which enemy hero will end up mid in a pub.
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    September 19 2015 02:42 GMT
    #4330
    I will be back in Copenhagen, Denmark in time for 6.85. Text boxes are still broken, amplifying the work on top of my transition to a new location (West Coast, United States).

    Was hoping there would be more publicity about the issue.
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    Buckyman
    Profile Joined May 2014
    1364 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-09-21 02:47:14
    September 21 2015 02:46 GMT
    #4331
    Tried the Kunkka guide a few times. I had perpetual mana problems until I got to level 15+ and started skilling stats.
    SpiritoftheTunA
    Profile Blog Joined August 2006
    United States20903 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-09-21 02:48:58
    September 21 2015 02:48 GMT
    #4332
    On September 21 2015 11:46 Buckyman wrote:
    Tried the Kunkka guide a few times. I had perpetual mana problems until I got to level 15+ and started skilling stats.

    you should try the attacker build sometime: bottle phase bfury blink crit crit crit

    though remember you can always x mark tp kinda like ember's remnant tp
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    September 21 2015 03:45 GMT
    #4333
    On September 21 2015 11:46 Buckyman wrote:
    Tried the Kunkka guide a few times. I had perpetual mana problems until I got to level 15+ and started skilling stats.


    Which one?
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    Buckyman
    Profile Joined May 2014
    1364 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-09-21 05:27:43
    September 21 2015 05:24 GMT
    #4334
    6.84 - Standard Kunkka (Lane) Build

    Should I just use the Mid build and get a bottle?
    TheYango
    Profile Joined September 2008
    United States47024 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-09-21 06:16:47
    September 21 2015 06:15 GMT
    #4335
    Bottle's fine for mana, yes.

    TBH, the skill order should be changed to 4-4-1-2 (with the first rank in X taken at 10) OR 4-1-4-2 (with the first rank in Tidebringer taken at 10), with the latter specifically for support Kunkka (and I think there's a legitimate argument for having "Lane" Kunkka be support rather than safelane carry). Mid should be changed to 4-4-1-2 regardless. Having to invest so much in X just gimps your midgame damage too hard, and the removal of the facing requirement for Torrent means you have more options for using Torrent without telegraphing yourself that you always want it maxed at 8/9.
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    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    September 21 2015 13:15 GMT
    #4336
    I will admit, I've overlooked Kunkka since the start of 6.84
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    Plansix
    Profile Blog Joined April 2011
    United States60190 Posts
    September 21 2015 13:17 GMT
    #4337
    On September 21 2015 22:15 Torte de Lini wrote:
    I will admit, I've overlooked Kunkka since the start of 6.84

    You and the rest of the Dota world.
    I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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    Buckyman
    Profile Joined May 2014
    1364 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-09-21 14:50:29
    September 21 2015 14:41 GMT
    #4338
    On September 21 2015 15:15 TheYango wrote:
    (with the first rank in X taken at 10).

    Disagree strongly. I always want to have a rank in X by the time I have Shadow Blade. This would mean I'd want the first rank in X at 8 at the latest if I'm farming a lane. Of course, you could be assuming that an average guide-user will miss half their last hits. But even without the shadow blade, being able to X-TP has applications.

    I agree on wanting more torrent by 10 though, giving my preferred shadow blade in->X->Torrent initiation more punch.
    Torte de Lini
    Profile Blog Joined September 2010
    Germany38463 Posts
    September 21 2015 15:24 GMT
    #4339
    If I recall, there was a huge discussion on how to level Kunkka 50 times in the past before, both for Mid and Lane. That's my hesitation to look at it again as if I recall; both had their valid reasons.
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    TheYango
    Profile Joined September 2008
    United States47024 Posts
    Last Edited: 2015-09-21 15:50:19
    September 21 2015 15:49 GMT
    #4340
    On September 22 2015 00:24 Torte de Lini wrote:
    If I recall, there was a huge discussion on how to level Kunkka 50 times in the past before, both for Mid and Lane. That's my hesitation to look at it again as if I recall; both had their valid reasons.

    That was before the X rework and the Torrent buff. Post-X-rework we had 1 discussion before enough games on the patch had been played, which resulted in the current skill order, and you didn't revisit the hero at all after the Torrent buff.

    The hero was a huge point of contention before, but you're ignoring a radical change to one skill and a less-radical but nonetheless significant buff to a different one that makes things more clear-cut.
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