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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 17:18:42
September 09 2015 17:14 GMT
#4301
All the extra situational/extension items you listed kinda suck.

Rapier isn't Luxury on that hero really. You either get it right after Travels+Nec3 or not at all.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 09 2015 17:21 GMT
#4302
On September 10 2015 02:14 TheYango wrote:
All the extra situational/extension items you listed kinda suck.

Rapier isn't Luxury on that hero really. You either get it right after Travels+Nec3 or not at all.


I'll move Rapier.

I didn't really see any other situationals that warranted mention.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
September 09 2015 20:51 GMT
#4303
dunno if you guys saw this, but they did update arc warden in the upcoming patch

http://imgur.com/a/l9HEV

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3k7pg4/arc_warden_rebalancenerf_as_of_684/
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 09 2015 23:28 GMT
#4304
It doesn't change how he's played unless his ult got a big change, but it makes him a lot less Techies early game.

I expect ult interaction with item CDs to change and hopefully Rapier not get duplicated (even if its not overpowered, the Rapier interaction with the clone is still insanely stupid).
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
September 09 2015 23:55 GMT
#4305
his ult hasnt been ported over yet while his other abilities received changes..sorta says to me that his ult might see some changes but i could def be reading too far into it
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 10 2015 22:10 GMT
#4306
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3kgmts/arc_warden_some_insight_on_the_soon_upcoming_hero/
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-12 12:48:40
September 10 2015 22:22 GMT
#4307
ed
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 10 2015 23:24 GMT
#4308
Euls and BKB are still pretty pointless on Arc Warden.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-10 23:38:49
September 10 2015 23:35 GMT
#4309
I was thinking of swapping them out for Diffusal and something else.
Medallion? Do they stack?
Drums of Endurance?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-11 00:27:47
September 11 2015 00:26 GMT
#4310
Medallions don't stack. Drums are pointless.

If you really feel the need to add another item, just put Octarine in luxury. Shorter Necro/Travels/Ulti CD makes you more annoying to deal with so it's worth a slot.

It's honestly a pointless question because the current Arc Warden just wins the game with Midas Necro Travels and what items you get after that don't really matter.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-11 00:42:41
September 11 2015 00:42 GMT
#4311
Two in situational is fine, three is preferred.

Extension has four, so that's fine.


Utility Items was added for some smaller consumables.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 19:45:50
September 12 2015 13:05 GMT
#4312
ed
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 12 2015 13:06 GMT
#4313
If you notice Bottle or Magic Wand obtained too early, please let me know.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 13:29:34
September 13 2015 12:31 GMT
#4314
[image loading]

Front page material


From Monday to Saturday, I will have limited response and availability. Stats will still be posted tomorrow.
Any final changes will be today and then posted in the first post.
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Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
September 13 2015 17:47 GMT
#4315
probably should add refresher to arc warden
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 13 2015 17:48 GMT
#4316
On September 14 2015 02:47 Thetwinmasters wrote:
probably should add refresher to arc warden


It was on there originally, but I wasn't comfortable putting it in the same selection as much more valid Extension Items
I can potentially open up Luxury Items if there's enough vocal support.
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Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
September 13 2015 18:32 GMT
#4317
On September 14 2015 02:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 02:47 Thetwinmasters wrote:
probably should add refresher to arc warden


It was on there originally, but I wasn't comfortable putting it in the same selection as much more valid Extension Items
I can potentially open up Luxury Items if there's enough vocal support.

I mean you have stuff like diffusial, dagon, and manta there is no way you can't justify putting refresher in
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 13 2015 18:44 GMT
#4318
It's pretty ehh, it'd pretty much only be Luxury.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 13 2015 19:45 GMT
#4319
Okay, why not, I'll luxury it/
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 22:01:59
September 13 2015 19:45 GMT
#4320
Draft Guide
Arc Warden (Lane)

Skill Build: E Q E W E R E Q Q Q R W W W R (1. Spark Wraith 2. Flux 3. Magnetic Field)
Starting Items: 3x Iron Branch, Tangos, Clarity x3, Healing Salve
Early Game: Boots of Speed, Hand of Midas
Core Items: Necromonicon 3, Boots of Travel, Magic Wand
Utility Items: Healing Salve, Enchanted Mango, Smoke of Deceit
Situational Items: Dagon, Diffusal Blade
Extension Items: Boots of Travel 2, Manta Style, Scythe of Vyse, Divine Rapier
Luxury Items: Refresher's Orb

Draft Guide
Arc Warden (Middle)

Skill Build: E Q E W E R E Q Q Q R W W W R (1. Spark Wraith 2. Flux 3. Magnetic Field)
Starting Items: 3x Iron Branch, Tangos
Early Game: Bottle, Boots of Speed, Hand of Midas
Core Items: Necromonicon 3, Boots of Travel,
Utility Items: Healing Salve, Enchanted Mango, Smoke of Deceit
Situational Items: Dagon, Diffusal Blade
Extension Items: Boots of Travel 2, Manta Style, Scythe of Vyse, Divine Rapier
Luxury Items: Refresher's Orb

Draft Guide
Pit Lord (Lane)

Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura)
Starting Items: Stout Shield, 2x Iron Branch, Tangos, Clarity
Early Game: Boots of Speed, Magic Wand
Core Items: Arcane Boots, Mekansm, Eul's Scepter of Divinity
Situational Items: Vladmir's Offering, Blademail, Rod of Atos, Pipe of Insight
Extension Items: Necromonicon, Guardian Greaves, Assault Cuirass, Shiva's Guard, Scythe of Vyse
Luxury Items: Boots of Travel, Refresher's Orb, Octarine Core

Draft Guide
Pit Lord (Middle)

Skill Build: E Q Q W Q R Q W W W R E E E R (1. Firestorm 2. Pit of Malice 3. Atrophy Aura)
Starting Items: Stout Shield, Tangos, 2x Iron Branch
Early Game: Bottle, Boots of Speed, Magic Wand
Core Items: Arcane Boots, Eul's Scepter of Divinity
Situational Items: Vladmir's Offering, Blademail, Rod of Atos, Pipe of Insight
Extension Items: Necromonicon, Guardian Greaves, Assault Cuirass, Shiva's Guard, Scythe of Vyse
Luxury Items: Boots of Travel, Refresher's Orb, Octarine Core

Riki
Added Diffusal Blade - Level 2 to Extension Items
Removed Skull Basher

Storm Spirit
New Skill Build: Q E E Q E R E Q W R Q W W W R (1. Overload 2. Static Remnant 3. Electric Vortex)
Added Soul Ring to Early Game

Crystal Maiden
New Skill Build: W E E Q Q R Q Q W E R E W W R (1. Crystal Nova 2. Arcane Aura 3. Frostbite)
Added Clarity x2
Moved Magic Wand to Core Items
Moved Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Extension Items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Extension Items
Removed Ethereal Blade
Removed Healing Salve

Medusa
New Skill Build: W E W E W R W Q Q Q Q E E R Stats R (1. Mystic Snake 2. Mana Shield 3. Split Shot)
Created New Tab: "Luxury Items"
Added Sange and Yasha to Situational Items
Added Divine Rapier to "Luxury Items"
Moved Monkey King Bar to Extension Items
Moved Manta Style to "Luxury Items"
Moved Satanic to "Luxury Items"
Removed Lotus Orb
Removed Enchanted Mango

Slardar
New Skill Build: W Q W E W R W Q Q Q R E E E
Moved Blink Dagger to Early Game
Moved Magic Wand to Core Items

Disruptor
Added Blink Dagger to Situational Items

Juggernaut
New Skill Build: Q W E Stats Stats R Stats Stats W W R W E E E R (1. Healing Ward 2. Blade Dance 3. Blade Fury)
Added Clarity to Starting Items
Added Wraith Band to Early Game

Lifestealer (Lane)
Added Blink Dagger to Situational Items
Added Mjollnir to Extension Items

Lifestealer (Jungle)
Added Blink Dagger to Situational Items
Added Mjollnir to Extension Items

Spectre
Added Quelling Blade to Core Items
Added Butterfly to Extension Items
Removed Magic Wand
Removed Refresher's Orb

Silencer (Middle)
Moved Rod of Atos to Core Items

Clockwerk
Moved Phase Boots to Early Game
Moved Bottle to Core Items
Moved Lotus Orb to Situational Items
Moved Force Staff to Extension Items

Pudge
Added Blade Mail to Situational Items
Moved Glimmer Cape to Situational Items
Removed Arcane Boots
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