EPTIn-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 144
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tehh4ck3r
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TheYango
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On January 28 2015 05:00 Sn0_Man wrote: I don't think u should buy vlads on ns very often at all. I think "situational" is fine for it. On January 28 2015 05:06 Torte de Lini wrote: I've seen it a couple of times. Maybe Crimson Guard would be better. Also, been seeing Midas on him lately, wasn't sure how that worked in. Midas is used because the hero needs a good gold/level balance (due to how timing-dependent he is with being effective during night time, you want your levels to keep pace with the game just as much as your gold). Midas evens out your gold/level distribution a bit in games where you ended up with a bunch of gold, but low level (e.g. couldn't find farming time, got kills in ganks, but usually had XP split 3-4 ways). It's hard for a new player to really use it effectively because you sort of have to play the hero a bunch to get a feel for where that ideal gold/XP balance is. | ||
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Been playing Omniknight, I still hate him. | ||
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Buckyman
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Although it might have been different if I'd gotten a fast Headdress and completed mek before force staff. And I'd also made the call to get a value Ring of Basilius for tower-seiging. | ||
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On January 28 2015 12:57 Buckyman wrote: Tried the Venomancer(Lane) guide. The main issue I noticed was that I didn't seem to need the arcane boots, but Tranquil Boots would have saved me multiple trips back to base and I wouldn't even have stopped farming while in regen mode. Although it might have been different if I'd gotten a fast Headdress and completed mek before force staff. And I'd also made the call to get a value Ring of Basilius for tower-seiging. I think in test matches, I found we needed arcane for meka. | ||
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Torte de Lini
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=356791078 -- Alchemist still needs ratings | ||
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Buckyman
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Also: The first sentence of the Necronomicon description has an extra "with Necronomicon" at the end. "Venomancer is a support hero with an incredible made for ganking at level 1 and an ultimate" "With the first level in Venomous Gale, goes are slowed" | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On January 29 2015 01:46 Buckyman wrote: Then why does the no-Mek branch of the build still use Arcane Boots? Also: The first sentence of the Necronomicon description has an extra "with Necronomicon" at the end. "Venomancer is a support hero with an incredible made for ganking at level 1 and an ultimate" "With the first level in Venomous Gale, goes are slowed" Did you spam wards? I will play Veno today if I get him in SD/RD Overall, Tranquils is nice on Veno, but arcane is just as good. Do boots matter that much on him? | ||
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Buckyman
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On January 29 2015 02:46 Torte de Lini wrote: Did you spam wards? I will play Veno today if I get him in SD/RD Overall, Tranquils is nice on Veno, but arcane is just as good. Do boots matter that much on him? Basilius, Wand and int kept up with everything; full plague ward spam is only 4 mana per second, basilius is .65, int is about 1.3, I'm only spamming wards about half the time, and Gale only gets used in fights where I can recover the mana used from wand charges. Even if I do need to go full ward spam, I can sustain it for about two minutes from my base mana while still keeping enough in reserve for a Gale. So in practice, health sustain was more of a limiting factor than mana with no Mek. | ||
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I will say that Necro is needless and Eul's sounds better. Ghost Scepter as well lvl 10-11 = 718 mana 125 (Q) + 200 (ult) + 225 (meka) typically 5 wards placed (100) 650 mana out of 718 | ||
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Buckyman
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On January 29 2015 04:52 Buckyman wrote: Why Eul's on Venomancer? Just so that he can cancel TPs? Movement speed. I'm debating if I want it Core alongside Mekansm and then swap out Arcane for Tranq. I feel for Core - Agh's, I would need to swap it. | ||
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TheYango
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Buckyman
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govie
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http://www.datdota.com/match.php?q=1198512202 http://www.datdota.com/match.php?q=1164734196 http://www.datdota.com/match.php?q=1160646345 http://www.datdota.com/hero.php?q=Alchemist Suggestions for alchemist middle could be (based on his 4 games): 1. Phaseboots, wand & Mek & BKB core 2. AC, bots and Abbysal extension 3. Halberd & heart & shadowblade optional Just suggestions, nothing more. | ||
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