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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 02:11:45
January 21 2015 02:10 GMT
#2841
I think 4-1-1-1 is more "trench-friendly" in that where solo-kills are possible, it's better to take them, and learning to be aggressive and proactive with heroes that can do so is just generally a better way to learn the game in my opinion than farming with farming heroes.

But isn't not like 1-1-1 + stats isn't noob-friendly--a noob will win with it just fine. I just tend to think that learning to farm with farming heroes is like the least useful thing for a new player to be learning.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 21 2015 09:50 GMT
#2842
It sounds like a fun build regardless.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129083818

The Jugg item-build is outdated nevertheless.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 10:47:42
January 21 2015 13:04 GMT
#2843
edit
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 25 2015 18:03 GMT
#2844
I'm now settled in my new apartment and can practice builds and such.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-26 11:40:10
January 26 2015 10:47 GMT
#2845
Timbersaw
Added Soul Ring to Core Items
Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items

Lina (Lane)
Moved Monkey King Bar to Situational Items
Removed Flying Courier

Terrorblade
Removed Poor Man's Shield
Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game

New Guide
Lina (Middle)
Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q W W W R E E E (1. Dragon Slave 2. Light Strike Array 3. Fiery Soul)
Starting Items: Clarity, Tangos, 3x Iron Branches
Core Items: Power Treads, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Blink Dagger
Situational Items: Force Staff, Ghost Scepter, Monkey King Bar
Extension Items: Aghanim's Scepter, Scythe of Vyse, Black King Bar
Luxury Items - Carry: Daedalus, Desolator, Boots of Travel
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Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
January 26 2015 12:48 GMT
#2846
desolator on lina seems awkward since u are most likely going to start as a support or mid, and then really have to get ur core up first before getting deso, which is gonna be late after treads eul blink possible wards courier tps. I personally think deso shouldnt be even luxury carry item on lina, rather see skadi or something at that point.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 26 2015 13:11 GMT
#2847
I could remove deso and add Mjollnir/Skadi
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
January 26 2015 13:13 GMT
#2848
If you're going mid wouldn't it be better to skip the clarity? I guess I don't know that well, but I always thought clarities were a lot of downtime for mid (or easily popped) and usually delay your bottle which could be giving you the same mana regen.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 26 2015 16:32 GMT
#2849
Mid starting items should be either Tangos+Null or Tango+Salve+Circlet/Mantle+Branches

Clarities are really uncomfortable to actually use effectively mid. And Lina's early harass/zoning power favors getting heavy stats at level 1 rather than trying to bottle-crow stalemate with low stats + banked gold.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 27 2015 08:34 GMT
#2850
I'll do Tango Null, thanks
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 19:48:52
January 27 2015 08:35 GMT
#2851
Timbersaw
Added Soul Ring to Core Items
Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items

Lina (Lane)
Moved Monkey King Bar to Situational Items
Removed Flying Courier
Removed Utility Items
Removed Desolator
Added Eye of Skadi to Luxury Items - Carry
Added Mjollnir to Luxury Items - Carry

Terrorblade
Removed Poor Man's Shield
Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game

Bounty Hunter
Removed Poor Man's Shield

Omniknight
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Medallion of Courage
Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items
Added Force Staff to Core Items
Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items
Moved Orb of Venom to Early Game

New Guide
Lina (Middle)
Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q W W W R E E E (1. Dragon Slave 2. Light Strike Array 3. Fiery Soul)
Starting Items: Tangos, Null Talisman
Early Game: Bottle, Boots of Speed
Core Items: Power Treads, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Blink Dagger
Situational Items: Force Staff, Ghost Scepter, Monkey King Bar
Extension Items: Aghanim's Scepter, Scythe of Vyse, Black King Bar
Luxury Items - Carry: Daedalus, Mjollnir, Eye of Skadi, Boots of Travel
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 27 2015 19:18 GMT
#2852
Definitely updating previous post with new updates: Omni, Bounty Hunter, Terrorblade, etc. Playing games regularly now.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 27 2015 19:19 GMT
#2853
I'm pretty sure u keep soul ring on omni tho
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 19:21:25
January 27 2015 19:21 GMT
#2854
Soul Ring is fine on Omni if only because it maximizes how stupid shit like Axe+Omni offlane is. It's a laning item, but when you pick Omni into stupid laning bullshit like that, you may as well get an item for it.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 27 2015 19:29 GMT
#2855
The issue I'm having with Soul Ring, Wand, Arcane and now Eul's is that it's more mana then Omni can spend
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 19:35:41
January 27 2015 19:33 GMT
#2856
naw, u can spend more mana. Heal should be on cd almost all the time (either top up an ally, top up urself, or farm with it if u have that much mana, obviously save it if theres a fight). I don't think omni's a wand upgrader.
anyway euls is pretty situational, force/blink or aghs is generally better to ensure that u can get ur ult on the important members of ur team.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 27 2015 19:40 GMT
#2857
Yes, I like Force Staff as well, so I'll move that to Core and Eul's to Situational
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 27 2015 19:59 GMT
#2858
Timbersaw
Added Soul Ring to Core Items
Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items

Lina (Lane)
Moved Monkey King Bar to Situational Items
Removed Flying Courier
Removed Utility Items
Removed Desolator
Added Eye of Skadi to Luxury Items - Carry
Added Mjollnir to Luxury Items - Carry

Terrorblade
Removed Poor Man's Shield
Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game

Bounty Hunter
Removed Poor Man's Shield

Omniknight
Removed Healing Salve
Removed Iron Branch
Removed Medallion of Courage
Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items
Added Force Staff to Core Items
Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items

Night Stalker
Added Blade Mail to Situational Items
Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items
Added Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items

New Guide
Lina (Middle)
Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q W W W R E E E (1. Dragon Slave 2. Light Strike Array 3. Fiery Soul)
Starting Items: Tangos, Null Talisman
Early Game: Bottle, Boots of Speed
Core Items: Power Treads, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Blink Dagger
Situational Items: Force Staff, Ghost Scepter, Monkey King Bar
Extension Items: Aghanim's Scepter, Scythe of Vyse, Black King Bar
Luxury Items - Carry: Daedalus, Mjollnir, Eye of Skadi, Boots of Travel
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 27 2015 20:00 GMT
#2859
I don't think u should buy vlads on ns very often at all.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 27 2015 20:06 GMT
#2860
I've seen it a couple of times. Maybe Crimson Guard would be better.
Also, been seeing Midas on him lately, wasn't sure how that worked in.
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