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TheYango United States47024 Posts January 21 2015 02:10 GMT #2841 I think 4-1-1-1 is more "trench-friendly" in that where solo-kills are possible, it's better to take them, and learning to be aggressive and proactive with heroes that can do so is just generally a better way to learn the game in my opinion than farming with farming heroes. But isn't not like 1-1-1 + stats isn't noob-friendly--a noob will win with it just fine. I just tend to think that learning to farm with farming heroes is like the least useful thing for a new player to be learning.

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 21 2015 09:50 GMT #2842 It sounds like a fun build regardless. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129083818 The Jugg item-build is outdated nevertheless.

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 21 2015 13:04 GMT #2843 edit

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 25 2015 18:03 GMT #2844 I'm now settled in my new apartment and can practice builds and such.

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 26 2015 10:47 GMT #2845 Timbersaw Added Soul Ring to Core Items Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items Lina (Lane) Moved Monkey King Bar to Situational Items Removed Flying Courier Terrorblade Removed Poor Man's Shield Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game New Guide Lina (Middle) Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q W W W R E E E (1. Dragon Slave 2. Light Strike Array 3. Fiery Soul) Starting Items: Clarity, Tangos, 3x Iron Branches Core Items: Power Treads, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Blink Dagger Situational Items: Force Staff, Ghost Scepter, Monkey King Bar Extension Items: Aghanim's Scepter, Scythe of Vyse, Black King Bar Luxury Items - Carry: Daedalus, Desolator, Boots of Travel

Velzi Finland659 Posts January 26 2015 12:48 GMT #2846 desolator on lina seems awkward since u are most likely going to start as a support or mid, and then really have to get ur core up first before getting deso, which is gonna be late after treads eul blink possible wards courier tps. I personally think deso shouldnt be even luxury carry item on lina, rather see skadi or something at that point.

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 26 2015 13:11 GMT #2847 I could remove deso and add Mjollnir/Skadi

Logo United States7542 Posts January 26 2015 13:13 GMT #2848 If you're going mid wouldn't it be better to skip the clarity? I guess I don't know that well, but I always thought clarities were a lot of downtime for mid (or easily popped) and usually delay your bottle which could be giving you the same mana regen.

TheYango United States47024 Posts January 26 2015 16:32 GMT #2849 Mid starting items should be either Tangos+Null or Tango+Salve+Circlet/Mantle+Branches Clarities are really uncomfortable to actually use effectively mid. And Lina's early harass/zoning power favors getting heavy stats at level 1 rather than trying to bottle-crow stalemate with low stats + banked gold.

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 27 2015 08:34 GMT #2850 I'll do Tango Null, thanks

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 27 2015 08:35 GMT #2851 Timbersaw Added Soul Ring to Core Items Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items Lina (Lane) Moved Monkey King Bar to Situational Items Removed Flying Courier Removed Utility Items Removed Desolator Added Eye of Skadi to Luxury Items - Carry Added Mjollnir to Luxury Items - Carry Terrorblade Removed Poor Man's Shield Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game Bounty Hunter Removed Poor Man's Shield Omniknight Removed Healing Salve Removed Iron Branch Removed Medallion of Courage Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items Added Force Staff to Core Items Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items Moved Orb of Venom to Early Game New Guide Lina (Middle) Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q W W W R E E E (1. Dragon Slave 2. Light Strike Array 3. Fiery Soul) Starting Items: Tangos, Null Talisman Early Game: Bottle, Boots of Speed Core Items: Power Treads, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Blink Dagger Situational Items: Force Staff, Ghost Scepter, Monkey King Bar Extension Items: Aghanim's Scepter, Scythe of Vyse, Black King Bar Luxury Items - Carry: Daedalus, Mjollnir, Eye of Skadi, Boots of Travel

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 27 2015 19:18 GMT #2852 Definitely updating previous post with new updates: Omni, Bounty Hunter, Terrorblade, etc. Playing games regularly now.

Sn0_Man Tebellong44238 Posts January 27 2015 19:19 GMT #2853 I'm pretty sure u keep soul ring on omni tho

TheYango United States47024 Posts January 27 2015 19:21 GMT #2854 Soul Ring is fine on Omni if only because it maximizes how stupid shit like Axe+Omni offlane is. It's a laning item, but when you pick Omni into stupid laning bullshit like that, you may as well get an item for it.

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 27 2015 19:29 GMT #2855 The issue I'm having with Soul Ring, Wand, Arcane and now Eul's is that it's more mana then Omni can spend

Sn0_Man Tebellong44238 Posts January 27 2015 19:33 GMT #2856 naw, u can spend more mana. Heal should be on cd almost all the time (either top up an ally, top up urself, or farm with it if u have that much mana, obviously save it if theres a fight). I don't think omni's a wand upgrader. anyway euls is pretty situational, force/blink or aghs is generally better to ensure that u can get ur ult on the important members of ur team.

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 27 2015 19:40 GMT #2857 Yes, I like Force Staff as well, so I'll move that to Core and Eul's to Situational

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 27 2015 19:59 GMT #2858 Timbersaw Added Soul Ring to Core Items Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items Lina (Lane) Moved Monkey King Bar to Situational Items Removed Flying Courier Removed Utility Items Removed Desolator Added Eye of Skadi to Luxury Items - Carry Added Mjollnir to Luxury Items - Carry Terrorblade Removed Poor Man's Shield Added Ring of Aquila to Early Game Bounty Hunter Removed Poor Man's Shield Omniknight Removed Healing Salve Removed Iron Branch Removed Medallion of Courage Added Eul's Scepter of Divinity to Situational Items Added Force Staff to Core Items Added Ghost Scepter to Situational Items Night Stalker Added Blade Mail to Situational Items Added Heaven's Halberd to Situational Items Added Vladmir's Offering to Situational Items New Guide Lina (Middle) Skill Build: Q W Q E Q R Q W W W R E E E (1. Dragon Slave 2. Light Strike Array 3. Fiery Soul) Starting Items: Tangos, Null Talisman Early Game: Bottle, Boots of Speed Core Items: Power Treads, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, Blink Dagger Situational Items: Force Staff, Ghost Scepter, Monkey King Bar Extension Items: Aghanim's Scepter, Scythe of Vyse, Black King Bar Luxury Items - Carry: Daedalus, Mjollnir, Eye of Skadi, Boots of Travel

Sn0_Man Tebellong44238 Posts January 27 2015 20:00 GMT #2859 I don't think u should buy vlads on ns very often at all.

Torte de Lini Germany38463 Posts January 27 2015 20:06 GMT #2860 I've seen it a couple of times. Maybe Crimson Guard would be better. Also, been seeing Midas on him lately, wasn't sure how that worked in.

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