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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
August 24 2018 15:41 GMT
#13581
Fed up with trying to manually overclock my laptop ram. Anyone know if Gskill 3200 mhz CL16 sodimms will run in my MSI GT83VR-6RE(i7 6820hk processor)?
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-24 23:57:26
August 24 2018 22:22 GMT
#13582
How was you trying to overclock it? The motherboard lists higher speeds and the voltages for memory and CPU IMC in its bios? If yes then it shouldn't be too much trouble and if not then you might not get it past ~2400 no matter what.

The CPU IMC supports up to 2400 and so do many motherboards, it's the desktop OC boards that can push a lot higher with CPU IMC overclocks.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-27 16:21:53
August 27 2018 03:07 GMT
#13583
Nvidia 2000 series looking pretty trash IMO. Some flashy features but they're bumping the prices by huge numbers and actually potentially losing FPS-per-dollar compared to 2015-2016 hardware. Reviews of a lot of the key metrics (performance, perf/watt etc) have been buried instead of center stage like Nvidia did every other generation in memory - even when showing off new technologies - so they're presumably embarrassingly small.

A non-founders 2080ti is £1100 while i got my 1080ti during the launch rush for £730 on a really fancy model, some of them being £650. The tech is better than last gen for sure, but i wouldn't pay that much more this much later for it.

https://www.overclock.net/forum/379-rumors-unconfirmed-articles/1706630-hopc-nvidia-allegedly-terminates-sponsorship-stance-against-preordering-hardwar.html
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 28 2018 09:38 GMT
#13584


in my opinion i have no opinion yet - got money saved up - i ve waited so long i can wait a bit longer to either go from 970 to 1080 ti (depending on cost) or go with a 20xx.

was kinda pumped for 20xx but the nvidia panel was rather not very well done imho
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 28 2018 17:02 GMT
#13585
On the bright side for buyers, the current generation stuff dropped in price quite a bit so it's a great time to grab those instead.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-29 00:51:09
August 29 2018 00:26 GMT
#13586
It's still higher than launch price over here
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 29 2018 02:57 GMT
#13587
I'm planning to upgrade soon and like to use Cyberpunk as benchmark. If I want to play it on Ultra, which part(s) should I upgrade?

Mobo: asus z87
Processor: i5-4690k
Ram: hyper-x 8gb ddr3
Video Card: GTX 960 strix
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-30 04:56:17
August 29 2018 18:55 GMT
#13588
Graphics for sure, but you'd need new cpu+motherboard+RAM eventually some time after that
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 30 2018 02:25 GMT
#13589
So everything? lmao. Thanks!
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-30 04:48:57
August 30 2018 04:48 GMT
#13590
Graphics card more so ;D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12080 Posts
August 30 2018 12:22 GMT
#13591
But if you take cyberpunk as the main reason for upgrading, you could also consider waiting another two years and (hopefully) getting more bang for your buck then.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-31 01:23:32
August 31 2018 01:19 GMT
#13592
Apart from the graphics card, the CPU should still be doing pretty well on high settings in the majority of games. There's exceptions to be made for very CPU bound games like SC2, but the AAA titles are more often than not limited by graphics.

Your best bang for the buck would be doing the GPU now* and then doing the CPU/Mobo/RAM in another 1-2 years.

*Probably worth seeing how the 2K line shakes out first.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-08-31 04:11:24
August 31 2018 04:07 GMT
#13593
Somewhat basing that off their other games (Witcher3) where an 8700k can perform close to twice as fast as a haswell i5 (due to architecture, cores, HT, clock speed, RAM performance and less losses to spectre) but the i5 still manages 60fps in CPU heavy areas despite all of that because the game isn't that hard on the CPU to run at those kinds of framerates. A gtx960 would much more likely be underpowered for maxing.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
September 03 2018 07:36 GMT
#13594
Twice as fast how? I played Witcher 3 w/ a 3770k & 1080 TI and never ran into FPS issues (1440p60). I'm not sure how a more modern CPU would lead to better frames in games like that which are GPU heavy.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-03 10:34:14
September 03 2018 10:22 GMT
#13595
Near twice as high FPS and more stable FPS in CPU heavy areas although an older i5 is still capable for 60hz gameplay

architecture, cores, HT, clock speed, RAM performance and less losses to spectre


All of those factors are pretty big for W3 cpu performance. It's heavy on both GPU and CPU in places but it scales well enough that the CPU isn't a major concern as long as you've got something modern-ish and aren't pushing high framerates.

They have some impressive numbers like 25-30% perf gains going from 4c8t to 6c12t and >20% perf gains going from standard RAM to high speed
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States928 Posts
September 03 2018 12:25 GMT
#13596
just bought a cyberpowerpc with amd ryzen 1600 and gt 730 gb. THE psu seems 450W. I'm wondering if i can install my graphics card (Gtx 650ti) onto it? Is it even worth to install a 5 year old graphics card as well? i've had it for 5 years
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-03 13:24:43
September 03 2018 13:15 GMT
#13597
If you got the connector then it'd likely work. A 650ti is several times more powerful than a 730, it's a bigger GPU belonging to the same generation under the hood. A 730 is pretty much a "here's something to plug a screen into" card for systems that don't have integrated graphics rather than being meant for gaming and such. 650ti is old, but it was meant as a mid tier gaming card back in the day and still functions fine for light graphical loads.

650ti: 28nm Kepler, 768:64:16 core at 928mhz base, 86.4GB/s memory bandwidth

730: 28nm Kepler, 384:16:8 core at 902mhz base, 14.4 or 40GB/s memory bandwidth depending on version.. At least 2x worse on every spec, but 4x and possibly 6x slower on some key ones.

If the card still works it still works!
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States928 Posts
September 03 2018 14:29 GMT
#13598
On September 03 2018 22:15 Cyro wrote:
If you got the connector then it'd likely work. A 650ti is several times more powerful than a 730, it's a bigger GPU belonging to the same generation under the hood. A 730 is pretty much a "here's something to plug a screen into" card for systems that don't have integrated graphics rather than being meant for gaming and such. 650ti is old, but it was meant as a mid tier gaming card back in the day and still functions fine for light graphical loads.

650ti: 28nm Kepler, 768:64:16 core at 928mhz base, 86.4GB/s memory bandwidth

730: 28nm Kepler, 384:16:8 core at 902mhz base, 14.4 or 40GB/s memory bandwidth depending on version.. At least 2x worse on every spec, but 4x and possibly 6x slower on some key ones.

If the card still works it still works!


thank you for your reply. So i guess the graphics card may work still even though its 5 years old. Tbh i'm mainly going to stream SCR 720P 60 FPS if I can and that's all I honestly need. I also may play cs go but not planning to stream that. So i was just wondering if puttin in 650 ti inside the rig was even worth it
Life is just life
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
September 03 2018 17:02 GMT
#13599
Sure, a 730 might struggle with csgo
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 12:38:59
September 05 2018 12:36 GMT
#13600
On September 03 2018 23:29 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2018 22:15 Cyro wrote:
If you got the connector then it'd likely work. A 650ti is several times more powerful than a 730, it's a bigger GPU belonging to the same generation under the hood. A 730 is pretty much a "here's something to plug a screen into" card for systems that don't have integrated graphics rather than being meant for gaming and such. 650ti is old, but it was meant as a mid tier gaming card back in the day and still functions fine for light graphical loads.

650ti: 28nm Kepler, 768:64:16 core at 928mhz base, 86.4GB/s memory bandwidth

730: 28nm Kepler, 384:16:8 core at 902mhz base, 14.4 or 40GB/s memory bandwidth depending on version.. At least 2x worse on every spec, but 4x and possibly 6x slower on some key ones.

If the card still works it still works!


thank you for your reply. So i guess the graphics card may work still even though its 5 years old. Tbh i'm mainly going to stream SCR 720P 60 FPS if I can and that's all I honestly need. I also may play cs go but not planning to stream that. So i was just wondering if puttin in 650 ti inside the rig was even worth it


I used to play CS:GO with a 650 ti and a core i5 3570k overclocked to 4,5GHz until a few months ago, I remember getting about 120 fps, but not sure with which resolution that was. Either 1920x1200 or 1280x800 @ 60Hz. Graphic options were pretty much default.
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