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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On September 04 2018 02:02 Cyro wrote: Sure, a 730 might struggle with csgo any idea why i may be lagging on SC R on HD only? I notice drastic FPS difference between SD and HD Btw I was the guy who asked you about the computer (AMD RYZEN 5 1600 and GT 730 2GB) | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
So few questions: Should I get gtx 1080 ti now, or look into the new RTX cards? I browsed through today's news quickly, and it seems like they are super expensive for little performance improvement? Best gaming CPU still latest intel i7? What's the latest on monitors? A while back 4k or 144hz was all the hype. Looking for best gaming performance. | ||
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Craton
United States17275 Posts
I'd say 4k is a huge waste of money for gaming. I'd continue to stick with 1080p, especially if you're trying to go >60hz. Opinions differ pretty widely on the impact of higher hz monitors. Some people swear by them, others don't care either way. Hard to really recommend one way or the other since it's mostly personal preference and influenced heavily by the kind of games you play. Best deals on cards will probably come after the RTX stuff comes out and potentially pushes down the prices of existing cards. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On September 10 2018 12:50 Shinokuki wrote: any idea why i may be lagging on SC R on HD only? I notice drastic FPS difference between SD and HD Btw I was the guy who asked you about the computer (AMD RYZEN 5 1600 and GT 730 2GB) Not sure, i've heard that the HD runs really badly sometimes and consumes a lot of VRAM --- What's the latest on monitors? A while back 4k or 144hz was all the hype. Looking for best gaming performance. We've got 240hz and gsync monitors now, 30-144hz gsync is great and 30-240hz is amazing tier for performance. Freesync ranges from being kinda close to gsync (on some of the 120-240hz monitors) to trash that's not worth enabling depending on the monitor model. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On September 12 2018 10:31 Cyro wrote: Not sure, i've heard that the HD runs really badly sometimes and consumes a lot of VRAM --- We've got 240hz and gsync monitors now, 30-144hz gsync is great and 30-240hz is amazing tier for performance. Freesync ranges from being kinda close to gsync (on some of the 120-240hz monitors) to trash that's not worth enabling depending on the monitor model. I have to say, after looking for a decently sized G-Sync monitor for ages I ended up saying 'fuck it' and gave the Samsung CH32G70 a try. Technically that one has FreeSync available but at the time I thought if I really end up missing it I'll go for an AMD graphics card next, even if they end up a bit more expensive. Turns out ULMB is such an absolutely awesome beast that I feel like I'd miss that more than taking some time to fiddle around to get rid of tearing in a select few games. In the games in which I did have slight issues with tearing 120+ fps made it comfortable so far. Basically from my own personal experience your mileage may vary and G-Sync might not always be as awesome as it sounds at a glance. If you have the chance to simply try a monitor in a way that you can send it back if you really don't like it it's well worth checking if you'd rather save 200€+ and/or put them elsewhere for your setup. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
I've never had a monitor and don't know of one that can do it over ~144hz and this is still low enough to be impractical for me as a daily gaming setup due to eye strain. Having a very bright light (It can be literally 10 times brighter than your monitor usually is) strobing in front of your face at that low frequency isn't great - it induces headaches within hours every time for me and could even be a seizure risk. It also requires framerate to be locked at strobe rate for best results with some nasty artifacts if the framerate is falling to certain points, jumping around a lot or inconsistent for engine reasons* which makes it impossible to use on most of the games that i play often, relegating it to test/fun sessions with certain games like CSGO and Natural Selection 2 occasionally. I haven't actually turned it on for a year or so. *Example, if you do it on sc2 there is constantly perceived double image on much of the scene (units, healthbars etc) due to the 22hz microstutter for game simulation It'd be extremely cool in something like a 120fps/120hz with black frame insertion to 240hz strobing on a VR platform where every game is tuned for a low-variance, low-lag 120fps lock. Gsync is great on those games that strobing can't touch because variable and unstable framerates at awkward multiples of the refresh rate are its thing. It doesn't do much if you could achieve a perfectly paced 143fps @ 144hz lock anyway but ~100fps@144hz will look a lot worse on a regular monitor than a Gsync monitor. Gsync is definitely over expensive though and does have it's problems - i still can't do so much as have a second window open that's GPU accelerated on my other screen without my Primary deciding to gsync lock at a quarter of its refresh rate. I have to toggle it on and off every day or two because of some kind of bug disabling it, and then restart my game so that it'll hook on. I can't find any media player that allows Gsync to sync the actual content instead of just the UI. Every game that doesn't have an internal FPS limit (that includes those who only allow you to set the limit to a pre-set value or cap the slider at a value that's lower than the refresh rate!) requires you to run an external FPS limiter which adds a frame of input lag to prevent even more input lag from filling vsync buffers. We're 5 years into release and strobing is older, i doubt that they'll be really polished or even designed around by the software dudes making games and programs any time soon. Maybe if they saw a lot more adoption, but the gsync price tag isn't driving that and i've found that almost none of the actual freesync/gsync users know how to set their game framerates to get good benefit out of the tech without adding a ton of unneccesary input lag so they're not even asking the developers for the fixes. A straight up higher refresh rate monitor gives a lot of the benefits of both ULMB and Gsync through brute force, i'd consider a 120hz monitor a gaming essential and 240 a solid upgrade for enthusiasts. Higher refresh rate is just more better with no screwing around trying to fix stuff constantly unless your market is particularly shit console ports like the stuff that Bethesda puts out. | ||
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BjoernK
194 Posts
I am living in Korea for the next 3 or so years and my old Computer has finally broken down completly. I would like to keep using my old ssd/hdd but other than that I want to buy a brand new desktop pc. I am not keen on assembling it on my own so I looked around and the standard way to buy a reasonably cheap gaming pc is to use the danawa online-service. I have found a build that seems good enough for me. I would kindly ask the people of knowledge here, if there are any obvious nonos (as in the quality of the parts or over/underkill in certain areas). I would be open to other suggestions, however browsing the website is not so fun when one does not speak Korean. http://shop.danawa.com/pcshop/?controller=brandPCBlog&methods=main&representProductSeq=1845230 What is your budget? Around 1.500.000 Won (ca. 1339,84$) What is your monitor's native resolution? For now 1080p, I will probably upgrade to 1440p in the next year or so. What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Mainly SC2, but I want to try out some of the AAA games like Battlefield 1 etc. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Programming with unity3d, processing, arduino Typical office stuff Do you intend to overclock? no Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? no Do you need an operating system? no (I will first try to get my old Windows from the old SSD to run, if not I will buy a new one) Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? no What country will you be buying your parts in? Korea | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On October 28 2018 18:00 Chairman Ray wrote: Any idea on whether or not Intel will announce an i7-9700 or if there's not going to be one? The i9 9900k, i7 9700k and i5 9600k have already released If you mean non-k, there may not be. The three K CPU's have dies that are much thicker than normal + solder between the die and IHS which could make things awkward for producing alternate / cheaper versions. In any case, the K is not an obligation so you can use a 9700k without OCing if you need an 8c8t die or run an 8700 for 6c12t. This is the fourth version of 14nm skylake so i doubt they'd be excited to launch 12 different sku's 'cause they want it off market for next gen ASAP. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
On October 30 2018 03:42 Chairman Ray wrote: What would you recommend to pair with an RTX 2080 for 1440p/144hz gaming? Not planning on OCing or streaming. Depends mainly on how much you care about FPS IMO. Intel has performance leads at the moment that are too big for some people to ignore but ryzen is much better perf/$ even in most games - for example the Ryzen 2600 (6c12t) costs $160 while a 6-8 core or 6c12t Intel costs ~$240-410 (i5-8400 to i7-9700k). The performance loss going to something like a ryzen 2600 is not that enormous but it's considerable in the context of it limiting the performance of your entire system which is well into the four digit $$$$. If i gotta pick one CPU it's probably the 9700k - 33% more cores and L3 cache than the 9600k and a 4.9ghz turbo out of the box for ez great performance without the insane price tag of the 9900k. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YVpRMZ What is your budget? Unlimited, but going for best bang for your buck What is your monitor's native resolution? 1440p What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Fallout 76, Star Citizen, etc. on Ultra What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Not much Do you intend to overclock? No Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? No Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? Added If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. None What country will you be buying your parts in? US If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. None | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
3200-3600mhz RAM is pretty easy to use and can make a big difference for CPU performance compared to lower end frequencies like 2400mhz. I'm using https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jjZ2FT/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16w for example in a friends build (samsung b-die without unneccesary bits blocking cpu cooler compatibility). I'm expecting to do 3600c17 on that but defaults are okay. RAM performance nowadays often makes more of a CPU performance difference than CPU overclocking does. The engine used in Fallout 4 (also used in skyrim, fallout 76?) is one example where there are wild FPS gains of like +50% between slow RAM and fast RAM although a lot of games have 5-25% scaling when limited by CPU performance. You might want to improve the cooling setup over stock, that case has two fans in it but would benefit from adding more - the airflow doesn't look great since there is a lot of restriction. Front intakes would have to pull through a dust filter and then the sides of the front panel which would kill almost all of the airflow unless they were loud, high static pressure fans; a rear exhaust etc would help out a lot. I would shoot for something like an 80+ gold, 550w (two 6+2 PCI-E power connectors), 5 year+ warranty PSU. I don't even look at stuff that fails 80+ bronze qualification any more. Seasonic and Superflower units are usually top tier, other stuff i would be a bit more careful on the reviews for. No comment on the mobo, i don't know anything about the z390's yet | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20323 Posts
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
So I'm thinking -- should I get a quieter PSU? (Because in my estimation, it is the loudest thing in there) Or should I get a better (silent and insulated) case? Or both? Recomendations? The current PSU is some brand I know nothing about (topower or something like that) and I can't figure out what power it delivers, though I guess it's around 500 W. Here are the components btw: case - fractal design core 1500 MB - Gigabyte B85M-DS3H mATX CPU - i5 4670 GPU - GTX 660 ti 1 x ssd 1 x hdd 2 x ram | ||
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