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Horuku
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
January 04 2012 16:58 GMT
#1381
On January 04 2012 14:36 Blaec wrote:
Thanks for the review. Whats wrong with the stabilisers on the K60?


From what I've gathered after posting on Corsair's forums about it, they aren't the same quality as the ones in Filco and what not. I think they are just plastic, after taking off the shift key and messing with them. It really messes with how the shift key feels, it's not as responsive as all the other keys to the point that it almost feels like a mushy membrane key you are pushing.
d<^^>b
Xolo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 19:51:48
January 04 2012 19:49 GMT
#1382
So I just got a Black Widow Ultimate after like six years of using a $15 logitech keyboard and so far I find it....awkward, to say the least. In a lot of the reviews I read, people complained about the noise, but that's the least of my concerns so far. Some of the keys tend to get stuck, which is obviously annoying. My left hand always seems to be placed one set of keys further to the left than I realize, so I end up pressing 1 instead of 2, for example. I'm pretty sure this is because the placement of the macro keys is fooling my brain into thinking that they're shift, tab, ctrl, etc. Using the 'a' key is a little awkward for me because my old keyboard had an undercut on the right side of the caps lock key, so there was a decently sized space between caps lock and 'a', so it feels weird not having that. My final complaint is that the keys seem to come up a little bit slowly after being pressed, so I can't really spam keys the way I could on my old keyboard.

Overall, a lot of my complaints are probably just based on my own personal preference from using the same membrane keyboard for so long, so other people might not have the same problems. For the $150 I paid for this, I'm certainly not going to just give up on it after an hour, but this is going to be VERY hard to get used to.

Edit: Oh yeah, also the backlighting feels nauseating to look at for me
isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 20:06:19
January 04 2012 20:04 GMT
#1383
On January 05 2012 04:49 Xolo wrote:
So I just got a Black Widow Ultimate after like six years of using a $15 logitech keyboard and so far I find it....awkward, to say the least. In a lot of the reviews I read, people complained about the noise, but that's the least of my concerns so far. Some of the keys tend to get stuck, which is obviously annoying. My left hand always seems to be placed one set of keys further to the left than I realize, so I end up pressing 1 instead of 2, for example. I'm pretty sure this is because the placement of the macro keys is fooling my brain into thinking that they're shift, tab, ctrl, etc. Using the 'a' key is a little awkward for me because my old keyboard had an undercut on the right side of the caps lock key, so there was a decently sized space between caps lock and 'a', so it feels weird not having that. My final complaint is that the keys seem to come up a little bit slowly after being pressed, so I can't really spam keys the way I could on my old keyboard.

Overall, a lot of my complaints are probably just based on my own personal preference from using the same membrane keyboard for so long, so other people might not have the same problems. For the $150 I paid for this, I'm certainly not going to just give up on it after an hour, but this is going to be VERY hard to get used to.

Edit: Oh yeah, also the backlighting feels nauseating to look at for me


rip the macro keys out if you dont use them. if you ever decide to use them you can put them back in again. also if you dont like the lighting AND the macro keys. why didnt you get a filco, it costs about the same yet is better in quality and has nkr. the only upside to a bw ultimate ARE the macrokeys and backlighting
Xolo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada107 Posts
January 04 2012 20:08 GMT
#1384
Is it safe to take the keys off of a mechanical keyboard without ruining it?
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 20:17:34
January 04 2012 20:12 GMT
#1385
On January 05 2012 05:08 Xolo wrote:
Is it safe to take the keys off of a mechanical keyboard without ruining it?

yes, 2 paper clips will work fine.

edit : link on how to use 2 paper clips http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All About Keys#Removal
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 04 2012 20:19 GMT
#1386
On January 05 2012 04:49 Xolo wrote:
So I just got a Black Widow Ultimate after like six years of using a $15 logitech keyboard and so far I find it....awkward, to say the least. In a lot of the reviews I read, people complained about the noise, but that's the least of my concerns so far. Some of the keys tend to get stuck, which is obviously annoying. My left hand always seems to be placed one set of keys further to the left than I realize, so I end up pressing 1 instead of 2, for example. I'm pretty sure this is because the placement of the macro keys is fooling my brain into thinking that they're shift, tab, ctrl, etc. Using the 'a' key is a little awkward for me because my old keyboard had an undercut on the right side of the caps lock key, so there was a decently sized space between caps lock and 'a', so it feels weird not having that. My final complaint is that the keys seem to come up a little bit slowly after being pressed, so I can't really spam keys the way I could on my old keyboard.

Overall, a lot of my complaints are probably just based on my own personal preference from using the same membrane keyboard for so long, so other people might not have the same problems. For the $150 I paid for this, I'm certainly not going to just give up on it after an hour, but this is going to be VERY hard to get used to.

Edit: Oh yeah, also the backlighting feels nauseating to look at for me

Yeah that's a common problem with Razer keyboards, they have really bad build quality so you're going to have keys that are stuck etc. However it could also be because of how the blue switches work as they supposedly have a slight delay, making doubletapping and such more difficult. In my opinion Blue switches are by far the absolute worst for playing games so I'm not sure why you decided to go for those, especially coupled with the worst gaming keyboard manufacturer in industry. And yeah the macro keys are imo poorly placed as well.

(Personal recommendation as always with the black widow is to try to return it, get your money back, and get something good instead, but you could try sending it back so they could see if there's something actually wrong with it)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
January 04 2012 21:31 GMT
#1387
On January 04 2012 18:14 Hashbaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 02:28 Condor Hero wrote:
About to buy a Filco tenkeyless from PChome.

Is there a difference between the Majestouch and Ninja besides the placing of letters on the keycaps?

Nope. It's all the same keyboard (Majestouch 2), whether Ninja (side printed keys), Otaku (blank keys), or regular.

Thanks a lot man, getting brown Majestouch 2.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
January 04 2012 22:52 GMT
#1388
does anyone know how to take apart the 6gv2? i unscrewed the 4 screws in the back but i cant seem to remove the shell. any ideas?
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 05:06:11
January 05 2012 05:05 GMT
#1389
On January 05 2012 04:49 Xolo wrote:
So I just got a Black Widow Ultimate after like six years of using a $15 logitech keyboard and so far I find it....awkward, to say the least. In a lot of the reviews I read, people complained about the noise, but that's the least of my concerns so far. Some of the keys tend to get stuck, which is obviously annoying. My left hand always seems to be placed one set of keys further to the left than I realize, so I end up pressing 1 instead of 2, for example. I'm pretty sure this is because the placement of the macro keys is fooling my brain into thinking that they're shift, tab, ctrl, etc. Using the 'a' key is a little awkward for me because my old keyboard had an undercut on the right side of the caps lock key, so there was a decently sized space between caps lock and 'a', so it feels weird not having that. My final complaint is that the keys seem to come up a little bit slowly after being pressed, so I can't really spam keys the way I could on my old keyboard.

Overall, a lot of my complaints are probably just based on my own personal preference from using the same membrane keyboard for so long, so other people might not have the same problems. For the $150 I paid for this, I'm certainly not going to just give up on it after an hour, but this is going to be VERY hard to get used to.

Edit: Oh yeah, also the backlighting feels nauseating to look at for me


The keys shouldn't get stuck, and they should be coming up just as quick as any other keyboard ever (ie way quicker than your fingers).

So, I think there is something wrong with your keyboard. You should return it and get something other than a Blackwidow.

With the layout, you will get used to that. Every mech board has basically the same layout.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
January 05 2012 06:25 GMT
#1390
im deciding between steelseries 6gv2, steelseries 7g, and corsair k90.
I mainly play games, type up essays.
games i play: skyrim, mw3, bf3, dota 2, LoL, maplestory, mainly fps, rpg, adventures. Does anyone have any recommendations?
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 08:21:48
January 05 2012 08:21 GMT
#1391
On January 05 2012 15:25 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
im deciding between steelseries 6gv2, steelseries 7g, and corsair k90.
I mainly play games, type up essays.
games i play: skyrim, mw3, bf3, dota 2, LoL, maplestory, mainly fps, rpg, adventures. Does anyone have any recommendations?


All three are ok. Do you want light or heavy switches?

7g is abit expensive over the 6gv2 just for audio/usb ports and a wrist rest.

K90 looks freaking awesome and has backlighting, but some of the keys (F keys and a couple more) arent mechanical, it is also huge.

6gv2 is good and probably quite abit cheaper than the other two, but has less features.
kyriores
Profile Joined February 2011
Greece178 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 08:54:51
January 05 2012 08:53 GMT
#1392
I currently own a Blackwidow and I have to say that it's fine so far, but since people say that its build quality isn't the best around, I would like to try another mechanical keyboard so that I can compare (and also use it with my 2nd PC). So, I found a Cherry G80-3000 which is kinda cheap (even cheaper than the blackwidow) and nice. How is their build quality compared to Blackwidows? Anyone has one for like 5+ years to confirm if it is sturdy or not? Thanks in advance for the answers.
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
January 05 2012 08:56 GMT
#1393
On January 05 2012 15:25 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
im deciding between steelseries 6gv2, steelseries 7g, and corsair k90.
I mainly play games, type up essays.
games i play: skyrim, mw3, bf3, dota 2, LoL, maplestory, mainly fps, rpg, adventures. Does anyone have any recommendations?


I would pick the 6gv2 if cost is a main concern and if you do not care too much about features. The 6gv2 has cherry black keys, which people consider it the "best" for gaming. I got a chance to try it out at a local store and I find the keys a little hard when pressing them compared to my Rosewill cherry blue keyboard. My keyboard's keys are light. so pressing them is very easy and fast. I also think that cherry blues are the best for typing and I love it for gaming too. If you can, I would try to find a keyboard that uses cherry brown, which are similar to cherry blue, but not as noisy.
FlyingLigerz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States163 Posts
January 05 2012 09:05 GMT
#1394
On January 05 2012 17:53 kyriores wrote:
I currently own a Blackwidow and I have to say that it's fine so far, but since people say that its build quality isn't the best around, I would like to try another mechanical keyboard so that I can compare (and also use it with my 2nd PC). So, I found a Cherry G80-3000 which is kinda cheap (even cheaper than the blackwidow) and nice. How is their build quality compared to Blackwidows? Anyone has one for like 5+ years to confirm if it is sturdy or not? Thanks in advance for the answers.


all mechanical keyboards will last you 5+ years. hell membrane keyboards will last that long. the g80-3000 does not have spectacular build quality. you probably wouldnt notice the difference for that of a black widow. but what do u expect from a keyboard that is cheaper.
Horuku
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
January 05 2012 17:42 GMT
#1395
On January 05 2012 15:25 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
im deciding between steelseries 6gv2, steelseries 7g, and corsair k90.
I mainly play games, type up essays.
games i play: skyrim, mw3, bf3, dota 2, LoL, maplestory, mainly fps, rpg, adventures. Does anyone have any recommendations?


Go with the Corsair K90 (or K60 if you don't need macro keys). I recently bought a K60 and compared it with a 6Gv2 to try out mx reds vs blacks, and I found the K60 way more enjoyable to type on. Blacks will fatigue your hand quickly, and I wouldn't recommend it for typing essays. The mx reds are very light and feel like you're typing on air. The membrane keys might peeve you for a while (on the F keys and six pack), but you will get over it when you realize you don't use them that often. Ultimately, I suppose it comes down to personal preference if you wan't light keys vs. stiff keys.
d<^^>b
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
January 05 2012 20:07 GMT
#1396
just recieved this keyboard yesterday and only just now got the chance to use it now. All i can say is the difference is amazing. I doubt its gonna make me a better player, but the sound feel and look is just so much better. Theres only 2 slight downfalls: The paint on the keys is a bit much, you can feel the letters a bit too much and it feels really cheap, especially on the enter key. And the second one is my gf really hates the sound :p but i dont care lmao

id recommend it for anyone looking for a cheap mechanical keyboard
publicenemies
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
458 Posts
January 06 2012 04:13 GMT
#1397
On December 31 2011 09:16 Boblhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 08:23 ThatGuy89 wrote:
im looking for a cheap mechanical keyboard, cheepest i can go if possible.

hows this looking?
if theres a better one for a little bit more money id be happy to stretch

thanks


Clicky & tactile 50g actuation, nkro ps/2 $20 shipping to europe
If you lived in US you can get it for roughly $60 shipped as well.
PCHOME $60 shipped green alps.

ordered one myself from http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11531

Should I get this keyboard as my first mechanical keyboard? I do a fair amount of sc2(about 1-4 hours) and 3-4 hours of typing per day.
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
January 06 2012 04:19 GMT
#1398
On January 06 2012 13:13 publicenemies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 09:16 Boblhead wrote:
On December 31 2011 08:23 ThatGuy89 wrote:
im looking for a cheap mechanical keyboard, cheepest i can go if possible.

hows this looking?
if theres a better one for a little bit more money id be happy to stretch

thanks


Clicky & tactile 50g actuation, nkro ps/2 $20 shipping to europe
If you lived in US you can get it for roughly $60 shipped as well.
PCHOME $60 shipped green alps.

ordered one myself from http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11531

Should I get this keyboard as my first mechanical keyboard? I do a fair amount of sc2(about 1-4 hours) and 3-4 hours of typing per day.

I would recommend it as a first keyboard. Its better than blackwidow and any keyboard under $70 mine comes in friday or saturday.
publicenemies
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
458 Posts
January 06 2012 04:34 GMT
#1399
On January 06 2012 13:19 Boblhead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 13:13 publicenemies wrote:
On December 31 2011 09:16 Boblhead wrote:
On December 31 2011 08:23 ThatGuy89 wrote:
im looking for a cheap mechanical keyboard, cheepest i can go if possible.

hows this looking?
if theres a better one for a little bit more money id be happy to stretch

thanks


Clicky & tactile 50g actuation, nkro ps/2 $20 shipping to europe
If you lived in US you can get it for roughly $60 shipped as well.
PCHOME $60 shipped green alps.

ordered one myself from http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11531

Should I get this keyboard as my first mechanical keyboard? I do a fair amount of sc2(about 1-4 hours) and 3-4 hours of typing per day.

I would recommend it as a first keyboard. Its better than blackwidow and any keyboard under $70 mine comes in friday or saturday.

Can you show me how to order from that website it's all in chinese
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
January 06 2012 04:48 GMT
#1400
On January 06 2012 13:34 publicenemies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 13:19 Boblhead wrote:
On January 06 2012 13:13 publicenemies wrote:
On December 31 2011 09:16 Boblhead wrote:
On December 31 2011 08:23 ThatGuy89 wrote:
im looking for a cheap mechanical keyboard, cheepest i can go if possible.

hows this looking?
if theres a better one for a little bit more money id be happy to stretch

thanks


Clicky & tactile 50g actuation, nkro ps/2 $20 shipping to europe
If you lived in US you can get it for roughly $60 shipped as well.
PCHOME $60 shipped green alps.

ordered one myself from http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=11531

Should I get this keyboard as my first mechanical keyboard? I do a fair amount of sc2(about 1-4 hours) and 3-4 hours of typing per day.

I would recommend it as a first keyboard. Its better than blackwidow and any keyboard under $70 mine comes in friday or saturday.

Can you show me how to order from that website it's all in chinese


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