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Promised_pain
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland61 Posts
November 23 2013 19:54 GMT
#6581
Anyone here with blue switches and how do they do in SC2? I could get Ducky Shine II with blues for fairly cheap.
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
November 23 2013 21:29 GMT
#6582
On November 24 2013 04:54 Promised_pain wrote:
Anyone here with blue switches and how do they do in SC2? I could get Ducky Shine II with blues for fairly cheap.


They're my favorite switches, I've been playing with Black, Brown and Blues and the Blue is definitely the one I like most not only for typing but for SC2 as well.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Promised_pain
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland61 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 18:47:59
November 26 2013 18:47 GMT
#6583
On November 24 2013 06:29 Firkraag8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 04:54 Promised_pain wrote:
Anyone here with blue switches and how do they do in SC2? I could get Ducky Shine II with blues for fairly cheap.


They're my favorite switches, I've been playing with Black, Brown and Blues and the Blue is definitely the one I like most not only for typing but for SC2 as well.


I got one with brown switches instead, I heard that they're like quiet version of the blues. It's really amazing to type on this thing after using a rubber dome for years. The keyboard is Ducky Year of the Dragon.
boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
November 26 2013 20:10 GMT
#6584
Hey guys. I'm using a Razer BlackWidow right now. Unfortunately, I am sharing a room with a roommate who goes to bed much earlier than me and he's complaining about the noise my keyboard makes.
So my question is: is there a quiet mechanical keyboard? From what I read around, the blue switch the BlackWidow uses is the loudest of all. Does the brown switch significantly quieter so that it would not keep someone from going to bed?
SonGoku
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany152 Posts
November 26 2013 22:32 GMT
#6585
I´m interested in buying the blackwidow tournament edition, does anybody know if i can get the keyboard faster then 3-6weeks shipping? Or does any other comparable keybords exist wich i can get faster?
invisible.terran
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 23:52:51
November 26 2013 23:52 GMT
#6586
On November 27 2013 05:10 boon2537 wrote:
Hey guys. I'm using a Razer BlackWidow right now. Unfortunately, I am sharing a room with a roommate who goes to bed much earlier than me and he's complaining about the noise my keyboard makes.
So my question is: is there a quiet mechanical keyboard? From what I read around, the blue switch the BlackWidow uses is the loudest of all. Does the brown switch significantly quieter so that it would not keep someone from going to bed?

Something like this may help. It won't help with the sound from the blue switch but it will dampen the sound of you bottoming out keys. For switches, I haven't had any experiences with Brown switches, but if you want something quiet, you should look at Black/Red switches.
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Promised_pain
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland61 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 10:56:23
November 27 2013 10:56 GMT
#6587
On November 27 2013 08:52 invisible.terran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 05:10 boon2537 wrote:
Hey guys. I'm using a Razer BlackWidow right now. Unfortunately, I am sharing a room with a roommate who goes to bed much earlier than me and he's complaining about the noise my keyboard makes.
So my question is: is there a quiet mechanical keyboard? From what I read around, the blue switch the BlackWidow uses is the loudest of all. Does the brown switch significantly quieter so that it would not keep someone from going to bed?

Something like this may help. It won't help with the sound from the blue switch but it will dampen the sound of you bottoming out keys. For switches, I haven't had any experiences with Brown switches, but if you want something quiet, you should look at Black/Red switches.


Yeah, Browns aren't something you'd call "quiet" but they're not as loud as blues. So don't go browns if you want a quiet keyboard.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
November 27 2013 11:06 GMT
#6588
how is this keyboard??
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=263

im looking for a blue switch mech keyboard.

also, i cant seem to find any site that sells that keyboard other than that site.

is there some other site that sells it? or would it be okay just to buy it from that site?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20322 Posts
November 27 2013 11:08 GMT
#6589
Browns are not quiet, i've woken people across the hall playing Osu
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Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 17:22:06
November 27 2013 17:14 GMT
#6590
If you're using blue switches, the addition of o-rings will not help that much in dampening the sound. Neither will switching to brown switches as they're pretty loud as well when you bottom out. Blacks and reds are quieter, but if you really want to make sure that you don't bother your roommate during the nighttime I'd switch to a membrane keyboard for the nighttime and blue switches for during the day if he doesn't mind it.

On November 27 2013 20:06 IMKR wrote:
how is this keyboard??
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=263

im looking for a blue switch mech keyboard.

also, i cant seem to find any site that sells that keyboard other than that site.

is there some other site that sells it? or would it be okay just to buy it from that site?

There are various websites you can look at, mechanicalkeyboards is just one of the major ones. Amazon and Newegg are two other big retailer sites that sell mechanical keyboards as well.

Are you looking for anything in particular with a blue mechanical switch keyboard? Such as does it need to be full sized or is tenkeyless (TKL) fine? Does it need backlighting? Budget? These are some things you should consider when looking for a keyboard. Quality wise most keyboards are just fine.

Additionally I love browsing Geekhack's great finds section. You might find a mechanical keyboard on sale every so often, and with Black Friday/Cyber Monday coming up there may be some sales coming soon.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-29 23:03:31
November 29 2013 22:38 GMT
#6591
e: never mind
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
November 30 2013 03:56 GMT
#6592
On November 28 2013 02:14 Sovano wrote:
If you're using blue switches, the addition of o-rings will not help that much in dampening the sound. Neither will switching to brown switches as they're pretty loud as well when you bottom out. Blacks and reds are quieter, but if you really want to make sure that you don't bother your roommate during the nighttime I'd switch to a membrane keyboard for the nighttime and blue switches for during the day if he doesn't mind it.

Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 20:06 IMKR wrote:
how is this keyboard??
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=263

im looking for a blue switch mech keyboard.

also, i cant seem to find any site that sells that keyboard other than that site.

is there some other site that sells it? or would it be okay just to buy it from that site?

There are various websites you can look at, mechanicalkeyboards is just one of the major ones. Amazon and Newegg are two other big retailer sites that sell mechanical keyboards as well.

Are you looking for anything in particular with a blue mechanical switch keyboard? Such as does it need to be full sized or is tenkeyless (TKL) fine? Does it need backlighting? Budget? These are some things you should consider when looking for a keyboard. Quality wise most keyboards are just fine.

Additionally I love browsing Geekhack's great finds section. You might find a mechanical keyboard on sale every so often, and with Black Friday/Cyber Monday coming up there may be some sales coming soon.


i assuming full size means with a num pad right? if so, I'm looking for a full sized one

has to be blue switches, (i love the sound and feedback of them) dunno what TKL means, and idc about backlighting or macro keys. (its a plus if it has one but wouldnt want to pay premium for those, only would buy it if its the same price for the same keyboard with 1 having them and the other not having them)

budget looking for something around ~$100. cheaper price the better, but i dont want the cheapest mech board around.
i was thinking on the regular razer black widow, but reviews say they have lots of problems.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 04:24:06
November 30 2013 04:22 GMT
#6593
TKL = ten-key-less

That weird "ten-key" is talking about the number pad, and with the "tenkeyless" they want to say that the number pad is missing. The arrow keys and Insert/Delete/Home/End/PgUp/PgDn are still in their normal position.

That style of keyboard is also often called "87 key".

There are "84 key" keyboards where the arrow keys and insert/home/etc. are moved and bunched up into the left area of the keyboard. There are no gaps anywhere on that style of keyboard.

Full-size is "104 key".

Those numbers are all for US layout. Other layouts have some added keys.

There's also keyboards where the number pad is kept, instead the arrow keys and Insert/Delete/etc. gets ditched. You then use the Num-Lock key and the number pad for arrow keys etc.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 01 2013 00:25 GMT
#6594
Shine 3, brown for $115: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=87072&promoid=1146
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
December 01 2013 01:07 GMT
#6595
anyone find any sweet deals on a nice tkl with browns?
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
December 01 2013 02:32 GMT
#6596
On December 01 2013 09:25 skyR wrote:
Shine 3, brown for $115: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=87072&promoid=1146


I love you. I was REALLY close to getting a ducky for like $15 more and not the color i quite wanted.
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Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 15:16:49
December 01 2013 15:08 GMT
#6597
On November 30 2013 12:56 IMKR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 02:14 Sovano wrote:
If you're using blue switches, the addition of o-rings will not help that much in dampening the sound. Neither will switching to brown switches as they're pretty loud as well when you bottom out. Blacks and reds are quieter, but if you really want to make sure that you don't bother your roommate during the nighttime I'd switch to a membrane keyboard for the nighttime and blue switches for during the day if he doesn't mind it.

On November 27 2013 20:06 IMKR wrote:
how is this keyboard??
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=263

im looking for a blue switch mech keyboard.

also, i cant seem to find any site that sells that keyboard other than that site.

is there some other site that sells it? or would it be okay just to buy it from that site?

There are various websites you can look at, mechanicalkeyboards is just one of the major ones. Amazon and Newegg are two other big retailer sites that sell mechanical keyboards as well.

Are you looking for anything in particular with a blue mechanical switch keyboard? Such as does it need to be full sized or is tenkeyless (TKL) fine? Does it need backlighting? Budget? These are some things you should consider when looking for a keyboard. Quality wise most keyboards are just fine.

Additionally I love browsing Geekhack's great finds section. You might find a mechanical keyboard on sale every so often, and with Black Friday/Cyber Monday coming up there may be some sales coming soon.

+ Show Spoiler +
i assuming full size means with a num pad right? if so, I'm looking for a full sized one

has to be blue switches, (i love the sound and feedback of them) dunno what TKL means, and idc about backlighting or macro keys. (its a plus if it has one but wouldnt want to pay premium for those, only would buy it if its the same price for the same keyboard with 1 having them and the other not having them)

budget looking for something around ~$100. cheaper price the better, but i dont want the cheapest mech board around.
i was thinking on the regular razer black widow, but reviews say they have lots of problems
.

Razer has a bad reputation for their keyboards in terms of their durability and quality. CM keyboards fit into your budget pretty well since they tend to have lower prices than others. Something like this is one possibility you might be interested in. Rosewill is decent as well, but they've historically had some cable issues (I'm not sure if that's fixed yet not or though). However I'll still suggest it since it's an option. Note: I didn't go looking for the cheapest ones from websites, so you may find them cheaper elsewhere than on Amazon (although usually Amazon is cheaper or the same as other websites).

Although if you were looking for backlit/macro keyboards for around the same price, what skyR posted is definitely great if you could put in another $15. I have a Ducky Shine 2 MX Blue switches for my full sized keyboard, and it's absolutely great all around. Ducky Shine 3 is just an upgraded version with better LED functions. $115 is most likely the lowest it'll ever get until the release of the Shine 4 sometime in 2014. I personally bought a CM Storm Quickfire TK for one of my friends and they loved it. The only quirky little thing about is the fact that it's both "TKL" in the sense and full-sized. If you look at the picture I'm sure you'd understand. It takes a bit to get used to, but a lot of people love it since it offers the smaller space that a TKL keyboard offers while still appeasing those who wish to use a numpad on the right side of the keyboard.
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
December 01 2013 22:49 GMT
#6598
Ended up ordering the CM Storm QuickFire TK the other day (with backlight since I am so used to it now). Even though I hear some other types of keys are better for gaming, I eventually decided on Reds, mostly for the sound factor. I live with other people so couldn't get loud switches. All I know is Sase uses red switches so they have to be good for SC2 I guess. The keys of my Saitek Eclipse II started to really stick which was annoying, so I think the reds should help a lot with fatigue that I have been feeling after playing SC2 for awhile.

Obviously, I have no idea how it will feel compared to other switches because I never had a mechanical keyboard. Can anyone with reds give their opinion on how they are for SC2?

Also, how should you clean it? I realize I can just used pressurized air like my regular one, but what about the switches? Do you have to clean them once in awhile?

I wanna make sure I do everything I can to take care of it.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 02 2013 02:01 GMT
#6599
Was planning on buying BlackWidow Ultimate, instead decided to go cheaper and buy a CM Storm Quickfire TK with blue switches. I'm pretty sure I've chosen well compared to the BlackWidow, but is there a keyboard in that general pricerange that would have been better? Just for future reference.
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Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 21:06:35
December 02 2013 07:07 GMT
#6600
Refer to my post above about keyboard selection. It's applicable to your situation as well, and no you didn't make a bad choice. Although the Black Widow Ultimate is decent, it just has too many quality control issues that make it unreliable to last long.

On December 02 2013 07:49 Enki wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Ended up ordering the CM Storm QuickFire TK the other day (with backlight since I am so used to it now). Even though I hear some other types of keys are better for gaming, I eventually decided on Reds, mostly for the sound factor. I live with other people so couldn't get loud switches. All I know is Sase uses red switches so they have to be good for SC2 I guess. The keys of my Saitek Eclipse II started to really stick which was annoying, so I think the reds should help a lot with fatigue that I have been feeling after playing SC2 for awhile.

Obviously, I have no idea how it will feel compared to other switches because I never had a mechanical keyboard. Can anyone with reds give their opinion on how they are for SC2?

Also, how should you clean it? I realize I can just used pressurized air like my regular one, but what about the switches? Do you have to clean them once in awhile?

I wanna make sure I do everything I can to take care of it
.

I just want to get this out there, but because someone says X switch is good for gaming or because they use it for SC2 doesn't make it good for SC2, it's just their preference. Although with that said, I'd note that black switches are probably the ones that get the most flak for RTS games since their resistance is higher than other switches. Red switches are just like black switches, but have lower resistance. However, if you want the general answer then brown switches are the ideal switches for RTS games followed along by blues and then red switches. I suppose people like the tactile bump from blues/browns for SC2 than linear switches like blacks/reds.

If you got the TK you should have gotten a keycap puller, it's pretty straight forward to use. + Show Spoiler +
If I remember correctly some of the keys use costar stabilizers (spacebar, enter key, right shift key, and the backspace button as well, not sure about the left side), but you'll want to ask someone else on how to remove them properly. I can remove mines, but I'm sure I'm not doing it correctly, as I accidentally broke the piece the stabilizer is attached to once (not the biggest deal if it breaks though).
You just remove the keycaps and use a can of compressed air to blow out anything underneath them. Other than that there really isn't much else you need to do to maintain mechanical keyboards other than cleaning keycaps if they get dirty.

Edit (since I don't want to double post):
There are some bundle deals with CM keyboards and mouses here. Credits to the OP for those finds.
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