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Dyscreet
Profile Joined April 2013
United States10 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-15 02:32:21
November 15 2013 02:32 GMT
#6561
Just got my Ducky Shine 3 in today with MX Browns. Man this thing is real nice. It feels like going from a economy car to an exotic. There is still a very audible click like you have with the Blues, but it's not as loud and annoying in my opinion. Definitely happy with it.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12889 Posts
November 15 2013 02:50 GMT
#6562
On November 14 2013 02:21 Bisu-Fan wrote:
So I'm planning on buying a mechanical keyboard... I have a few questions~
1) Should I wait for Black Friday to get my keyboard
2) Ducky Shine 3 or Leopold TKL keyboard?
3) Does anyone know how long the Ducky LEDs last?
4) Blues or Browns? I want tactile feedback, but I'm afraid to be too loud...

my ducky 2 LED is still working after 2 years :D
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
blazekun
Profile Joined November 2013
8 Posts
November 16 2013 21:32 GMT
#6563
Just throwing a general question out there, when is upgrading your keyboard worth it?

I've had the Das Keyboard for a very long time, since back then when it was the hot shit. What would I get out of an upgrade and would you consider it worth?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
November 16 2013 22:04 GMT
#6564
Is worth it when you get something that you want from upgrading. A keyboard is a keyboard and if you've got something nice like a das then i don't see much benefit from a new board unless you wanted one for the sake of a new switch type or some feature
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DERPDERP
Profile Joined October 2010
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
November 17 2013 00:14 GMT
#6565
On November 17 2013 07:04 Cyro wrote:
Is worth it when you get something that you want from upgrading. A keyboard is a keyboard and if you've got something nice like a das then i don't see much benefit from a new board unless you wanted one for the sake of a new switch type or some feature


This, and testing new switch types or layouts is a slippery slope into spending thousands of dollar$ into keyboards. Next thing you're buying vintage kboards you can't even use.
8)
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
November 18 2013 18:54 GMT
#6566
On November 12 2013 06:03 TwilightRain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2013 05:01 crappen wrote:
Is it just me who love flat keyboards, which are easy to press down? I play guitar, and Classical Guitar is very hard to play, but electrical is very easy, and I can perform much faster on electric guitar.

So Im curious, is there a flat mechanical keyboard? I just find these bigass keyboards whenever I try find one, and when I type text, I type much faster and easier on a good laptop keyboard. Any advice?

The only one which is somewhat easy to find is Cherry MX-board 3.0:
http://www.cherry.de/cid/keyboards_CHERRY_MX-Board_30.htm?rdeLocaleAttr=en&WT.mc_id=#
There are some older flat cherry boards with Cherry ML switches, but those are harder to find.


Thanks! My shop in Norway, has these keyboards from Cherry http://www.maxfps.no/tastatur#aj=174
Im not quite sure whats different from these picks that the shop provide:
Cherry
- Initial
- Stream-XT
- Easyhub
- Strait

It says that Cherry-initial has LPK-switches. Not sure what it really means. Not sure what Cherry ML switches are and compare to LPK.
Then we have Stream-XT, which has SX-switches. Again this does not tell me much, I have no experience.
I didn't really find anything on the Straith(JK-0300) keyboard on what switches it used.

Any input on these keyboards?
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
November 18 2013 19:08 GMT
#6567
These are all not mechanical. The Cherry G80 and the G84 line are the only ones with mechanical switches. G80 is MX switches, so full travel keys, which is what you don't want. G84 are those special tiny keyboards with ML switches which have short travel a bit like a laptop keyboard.

Those keyboards you linked are all alright quality, normal keyboards, but they are not mechanical. Some of them should have some sort of scissor switch to get the keys to work more reliable, but I don't know how to find that out. You might want to Google Image Search "scissor switch" to see what that's about. It's the technology used for good laptop keyboards.

Basically, you pretty much can forget about mechanical if you want something flat like a laptop keyboard. You have to research about good, normal keyboards instead.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
badugib
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States80 Posts
November 19 2013 02:03 GMT
#6568
you can try o-rings for less travel to mimic laptop scissor switches.
just started last week
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
November 20 2013 21:04 GMT
#6569
Is there any real difference between the ducky shine 2 and 3?
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DERPDERP
Profile Joined October 2010
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
November 21 2013 00:08 GMT
#6570
On November 21 2013 06:04 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Is there any real difference between the ducky shine 2 and 3?


It's not like you could compare the specs somehow
8)
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
November 21 2013 01:15 GMT
#6571
On November 21 2013 06:04 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Is there any real difference between the ducky shine 2 and 3?

Some key repeater options and additional lightning schemes but that's about it I think.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
November 21 2013 01:35 GMT
#6572
Essentially what Fikraag8 said. The major differences in between the Ducky Shine models are the backlit features, which of course is the primary reason most people buy them like myself.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 21 2013 12:00 GMT
#6573
And the colourful spacebar
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 22 2013 00:01 GMT
#6574
Bought a mechanical for the first time, RK-9000 with blue switches. I must say I don't think I will ever go back to standard. Though being so accustomed to standard boards my strokes are still pretty heavy, takes some time to getting used to.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
WeddingEpisode
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
November 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#6575
Are there keyboards for larger people?
I don't mean larger keys, but proportionally larger layouts: wider entire frame,
more space between keys, and taller, etc...
Still diamond
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
November 22 2013 22:47 GMT
#6576
What switch should i look for if i don't mind the force needed to press down on old school membrane keyboards but hate the bottom out feeling. I tried Blues and i didn't like them at all, the midway actuation point drove me crazy.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
November 22 2013 23:49 GMT
#6577
On November 23 2013 07:47 Ethelis wrote:
What switch should i look for if i don't mind the force needed to press down on old school membrane keyboards but hate the bottom out feeling. I tried Blues and i didn't like them at all, the midway actuation point drove me crazy.

All cherry switches actuate mid-way during the press of the key (prior to bottoming out) after about 2 mm of travel of the total 4 mm. (See Overclock.net's guide for specifics on each switch type)

Some companies sell little rubber spacers (gaskets) you can put on the stems of your switches to give a different travel distance and bottom-out feeling. WASD Keyboards has a sampler kit if you want a feel for the popular switches and the spacers they sell. (and the keycaps that come with the sampler can be used on your new board for uniqueness)
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
November 23 2013 00:30 GMT
#6578
On November 23 2013 08:49 Ichabod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 07:47 Ethelis wrote:
What switch should i look for if i don't mind the force needed to press down on old school membrane keyboards but hate the bottom out feeling. I tried Blues and i didn't like them at all, the midway actuation point drove me crazy.

All cherry switches actuate mid-way during the press of the key (prior to bottoming out) after about 2 mm of travel of the total 4 mm. (See Overclock.net's guide for specifics on each switch type)

Some companies sell little rubber spacers (gaskets) you can put on the stems of your switches to give a different travel distance and bottom-out feeling. WASD Keyboards has a sampler kit if you want a feel for the popular switches and the spacers they sell. (and the keycaps that come with the sampler can be used on your new board for uniqueness)


What's similar in terms of force? i'd like it a little lighter but idk i just hated blues.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
November 23 2013 00:56 GMT
#6579
On November 23 2013 09:30 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 08:49 Ichabod wrote:
On November 23 2013 07:47 Ethelis wrote:
What switch should i look for if i don't mind the force needed to press down on old school membrane keyboards but hate the bottom out feeling. I tried Blues and i didn't like them at all, the midway actuation point drove me crazy.

All cherry switches actuate mid-way during the press of the key (prior to bottoming out) after about 2 mm of travel of the total 4 mm. (See Overclock.net's guide for specifics on each switch type)

Some companies sell little rubber spacers (gaskets) you can put on the stems of your switches to give a different travel distance and bottom-out feeling. WASD Keyboards has a sampler kit if you want a feel for the popular switches and the spacers they sell. (and the keycaps that come with the sampler can be used on your new board for uniqueness)


What's similar in terms of force? i'd like it a little lighter but idk i just hated blues.

The reds are lighter and very unlike blues, I'd give those a try.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 03:53:43
November 23 2013 03:53 GMT
#6580
On November 19 2013 11:03 badugib wrote:
you can try o-rings for less travel to mimic laptop scissor switches.

I need to try that!
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