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[S9] taeZaKi
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DERPDERP
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
On November 01 2013 03:48 TT1 wrote: actuation force: 85g bottom out force: 105g stay.far.away You're not supposed to bottom them out, and they're not _that_ heavy. Greens are very similar to blues, but require tad bit more force, people who find themselves pressing the keys accidentally on blues seem to like the stiffness. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On November 01 2013 03:48 TT1 wrote: actuation force: 85g bottom out force: 105g stay.far.away Shouldn't this be like the perfect keyboard for buff people like Incontrol or Slivko?  | ||
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thezanursic
5504 Posts
Bad, good, overpriced? I have no idea about keyboards so I'd appreciate some help. All I need is a good responsive keyboard. That supports double tap, doesn't break easily... | ||
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
On November 04 2013 00:10 thezanursic wrote: MX black Bad, good, overpriced? I have no idea about keyboards so I'd appreciate some help. All I need is a good responsive keyboard. That supports double tap, doesn't break easily... I haven't had trouble double tapping on any Cherry MX switch, and I've had blue, brown, black. The QFR that you linked is supposedly great quality so you can't go wrong with that one. | ||
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DERPDERP
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
On November 04 2013 00:10 thezanursic wrote: MX black Bad, good, overpriced? I have no idea about keyboards so I'd appreciate some help. All I need is a good responsive keyboard. That supports double tap, doesn't break easily... QFR is very affordable and high quality, if you like mx blacks go for it. | ||
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Lu_e
United States95 Posts
Can't double tap on a mech? Is 69.99 cheap? Wow, good stuff guys. 1. Switches are all preference, so make an educated buy. Plenty of people like the harder switches. 2. You should have no problem double tapping with cherry mx. Perhaps you weren't used to mech? Blues/Greens release point of its clicking mechanism is above its actuation point, so that's the only area I could see feeling weird on double taps. I feel ok double tapping on mx blues but I prefer linear feeling switches. 3. QFR @ 69.99 (free shipping?) is a great deal. Especially if they are still doing the 2 year warranty | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
http://techreport.com/review/25558/topre-type-heaven-mechanical-keyboard-reviewed | ||
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DERPDERP
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
On November 04 2013 07:36 a176 wrote: $150 topre keyboard out http://techreport.com/review/25558/topre-type-heaven-mechanical-keyboard-reviewed Variable force topres have been like 100-130 quid for years now. IIRC typeheavens caps are ABS. So PBT caps would jack up the price very close to of an uniform realforce. | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
On November 01 2013 00:35 Homework wrote: I wanna get a Cherry MX Green keyboard. Anyone have any experience with one of those? I just picked mine up the other day. Given the extra force required, they feel far more "solid" than blues, though the sound is essentially identical. Example, while resting your hands on blues might accidentally cause a press, there's no such issue with the greens. I was slightly worried that they might be too stiff and cause strain, but so far, while I do notice some tension from my hands and fingers getting acclimated to the extra force, it's still been a nice typing and gaming experience. Not too sure whether I can say I like them more or less than blues at this point. | ||
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Jensbond
Sweden54 Posts
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
On November 05 2013 22:54 Jensbond wrote: Can you take standard keyboard keys over to mechanical keyboard? The acual keys themselfes. If you mean the key caps, then no you cannot. | ||
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scr
Hungary1025 Posts
 http://woobox.com/569ic8/4n4pr1 ducky shine 3 giveaway on CCLOnline (red lights / red switch) | ||
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Suichoy
Canada397 Posts
Obviously the best way to choose is to try them all out, but since most people can't do that, they try to choose their keyboard based on how good the switch is for typing/gaming, trying to pick out objective properties. Well, that helps you narrow down to several switches maybe but it doesn't tell you which switch you will like purely subjectively. You can try to imagine the feel based on how people variously describe it. But I think a huge part of how much you like a switch, that isn't accounted for, is how much you think you might like the other switches better, how much greener the grass seems on the other side. With those two thoughts in mind, let's look at all the commercial cherry switches available: Red, Green, Brown, Blue, Clear, Black. I would rule out heavier variants: greens, blacks, and clears as a good starter switch because they are much heavier than a typical person would expect for an all-day use keyboard and are more likely to lead to fatigue under heavy use. I would investigate them after you decide that the ordinary switches are too light for you. That leaves Red, Brown, and Blue. So how do you decide? The key is that almost definitely you are coming from a rubber dome keyboard. So you are used to a keyboard that is mildly tactile and primarily makes sound upon bottoming-out. I believe how much you like the nature of the rubber dome will determine which switch is best for you. Why to get blues: If you inherently dislike the nature of the rubber dome, you crave for more tactility, more auditory feedback. Reason is, if you go for the browns, a more subtly mechanical switch, you will always wonder if you will like it with a bit more clickiness and tactility. Given that you dislike rubber domes, I would go with the most mechanical-feeling switch out there and see if you want to tone it down from there (and of course if you wish, you can also investigate buckling springs, alp switches if they are easily available to you). If you are looking for a quiet keyboard for work or related reasons, you can rule this one out though. Why to get browns: If you basically like the mild tactility of the rubber dome but are looking for more precision in the tactility, better build quality, a solid bottoming out feeling. The brown doesn't feel like a rubber dome but its moderate tactility and the nature of the sound it makes is in the same line as the rubber dome. It is a switch that is more subtle about its mechanicality but is just as enjoyable as the blues once you adapt to its more subdued nature. Why to get the reds: If you dislike the tactility of the rubber dome and want it to be gone. You wish for a completely smooth travel with no click, like pressing on a spring, and minimal sound. I find this tendency to be specific to fps gaming but there are those who like linear switches for typing as well. I won't say that this switch is bad for typing but rather that it lacks any kind of feedback, whether tactile or auditory, about whether a key has registered. However, the switch has a pleasant simple pillowy feel and there is a charm to its uncomplicated mechanism. | ||
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kaykaykay
Singapore637 Posts
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
So Im curious, is there a flat mechanical keyboard? I just find these bigass keyboards whenever I try find one, and when I type text, I type much faster and easier on a good laptop keyboard. Any advice? | ||
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TwilightRain
Germany351 Posts
On November 12 2013 05:01 crappen wrote: Is it just me who love flat keyboards, which are easy to press down? I play guitar, and Classical Guitar is very hard to play, but electrical is very easy, and I can perform much faster on electric guitar. So Im curious, is there a flat mechanical keyboard? I just find these bigass keyboards whenever I try find one, and when I type text, I type much faster and easier on a good laptop keyboard. Any advice? The only one which is somewhat easy to find is Cherry MX-board 3.0: http://www.cherry.de/cid/keyboards_CHERRY_MX-Board_30.htm?rdeLocaleAttr=en&WT.mc_id=# There are some older flat cherry boards with Cherry ML switches, but those are harder to find. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On November 12 2013 05:01 crappen wrote: Is it just me who love flat keyboards, which are easy to press down? I play guitar, and Classical Guitar is very hard to play, but electrical is very easy, and I can perform much faster on electric guitar. So Im curious, is there a flat mechanical keyboard? I just find these bigass keyboards whenever I try find one, and when I type text, I type much faster and easier on a good laptop keyboard. Any advice? You should look at scissor switches. Those are the type of switches used in good laptop keyboards. The thing about scissor is that you can hit a key in the corners and it will still move and activate correctly. There should be a forum or blogs or a sub-reddit about those somewhere as there should be a lot of people just like you. Cherry has "ML" mechanical switches which move 2 or 3 mm instead of the 4+ mm of normal keyboard keys before bottoming out. There are no keyboards using those at the moment, except some Cherry keyboards that are weird. You might like that weirdness, so take a look at those. See if you can get G84-4100 and XS Complete (aka. G84-5200) in Norway. The keyboards are not expensive in Germany. The smaller is 50 € and the one with numpad is 60 €. G84-4100: http://cherry.de/cid/b2b_keyboards_Compact-Keyboard_G84-4100.htm G84-5200: http://cherry.de/cid/b2b_keyboards_XS_Complete_Keyboard.htm There's a numpad with programmable keys: http://cherry.de/cid/b2b_compact_keyboards_Keypad_G84-4700.htm You should know the whole keyboard is a little cramped compared to a normal keyboard even disregarding the layout. The keys are a little smaller and closer together. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3339 Posts
1) Should I wait for Black Friday to get my keyboard 2) Ducky Shine 3 or Leopold TKL keyboard? 3) Does anyone know how long the Ducky LEDs last? 4) Blues or Browns? I want tactile feedback, but I'm afraid to be too loud... | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On November 14 2013 02:21 Bisu-Fan wrote: So I'm planning on buying a mechanical keyboard... I have a few questions~ 1) Should I wait for Black Friday to get my keyboard 2) Ducky Shine 3 or Leopold TKL keyboard? 3) Does anyone know how long the Ducky LEDs last? 4) Blues or Browns? I want tactile feedback, but I'm afraid to be too loud... 1. Dunno, there are no sales in Australia 2. Do you want LED or not? Those leopolds are kind of old, you would have to get them same price or cheaper than a quickfire rapid to make them worth it. 3. Don't LEDs last for all of time? Haven't heard of ducky LED failures 4. Blues are loud, you have to decide what noise levels you can live with | ||
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