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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 27 2012 13:33 GMT
#4541
On November 27 2012 19:11 Mia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 19:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 18:17 Mia wrote:
How good is Razer BlackWidow Tournament edition?
I want to buy Tenkeyless keyboard, and RBW TE is pretty much only keyboard available in my country with this feature.
I could order CM rapid fire from ebay, but it would prolly end up more expensive than razer keyboard and is it any better?


Depends on the difference in price, i guess. Most people would say that the CM Quickfire Rapid is of higher quality than anything razer puts out but if the difference in price is too substantial i don't think it's the best choice.

95$ for razer BW and 132$ for CM quick fire according to my calculations. With all shipping costs included.


Yeah you are in basically the same situation i was in a while ago when i wanted to get my first mechanical, i really wanted a TKL with blue switches but that left me with two options, ordering a CM QFR from america and wait half a month and pay about 130 bucks sans import taxes and customs or get a Filco that cost way way more but would be on my doorstep in only 3 days because it came from the UK without any hassle. In the end i went with the Filco and even though i don't know if i would recommend spending that much money on your first mechanical i can say that i'm very pleased with it, and that i'd probably do it again. If you're spending close to or over 100 bucks on a keyboard chances are you're going to be using it for a very long time, and you want to make sure that it's as good as can be. I'd say go for the QFR, unless you're really strapped for money.
Mia
Profile Joined November 2012
75 Posts
November 27 2012 13:50 GMT
#4542
another thing i have been reading blue switches arent that great for gaming?
"Terran, who is missing in action" - me
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 27 2012 14:33 GMT
#4543
On November 27 2012 22:50 Mia wrote:
another thing i have been reading blue switches arent that great for gaming?


It's all up to preference really, they are very loud and have a noticeable tactile bump so people tend to not like them for FPS games but i really haven't had any problems. They are still way way better than any membrane keyboard.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 27 2012 16:00 GMT
#4544
I need advice. I want to get my first mechanical keyboard (well I had mechanical before when those were the only ones on the market) but I am really short on money so I want to get a cheap one. I don't play FPS games, I like rpgs and other slower games (last games I played were xcom and swtor and soon bgee). I might play HotS in MP when it comes out. I also like to type a lot on the internet in the forums and such.

I am very limited in mechanical keyboard choice in my country. I get to choose between COOLERMASTER STORM QuickFire Rapid Black (81Euro/105$), or COOLERMASTER STORM QuickFire Rapid Red (84Euro/109$) or COOLERMASTER STORM QuickFire Pro Red (90Euro/116$). Any of these good for me?

Anyone know a seller in Europe that got decent cheap mechanical keyboards about the same price as these or cheaper?
ripster
Profile Joined July 2012
United States64 Posts
November 27 2012 16:49 GMT
#4545
On November 27 2012 22:50 Mia wrote:
another thing i have been reading blue switches arent that great for gaming?


Please don't read guides at Overclock.net and GeekWhack.org.

They are morons.
The Number One Mechanical Keyboard Expert On The Liquid Planet
Mia
Profile Joined November 2012
75 Posts
November 27 2012 16:57 GMT
#4546
On November 27 2012 22:33 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 19:11 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 18:17 Mia wrote:
How good is Razer BlackWidow Tournament edition?
I want to buy Tenkeyless keyboard, and RBW TE is pretty much only keyboard available in my country with this feature.
I could order CM rapid fire from ebay, but it would prolly end up more expensive than razer keyboard and is it any better?


Depends on the difference in price, i guess. Most people would say that the CM Quickfire Rapid is of higher quality than anything razer puts out but if the difference in price is too substantial i don't think it's the best choice.

95$ for razer BW and 132$ for CM quick fire according to my calculations. With all shipping costs included.


Yeah you are in basically the same situation i was in a while ago when i wanted to get my first mechanical, i really wanted a TKL with blue switches but that left me with two options, ordering a CM QFR from america and wait half a month and pay about 130 bucks sans import taxes and customs or get a Filco that cost way way more but would be on my doorstep in only 3 days because it came from the UK without any hassle. In the end i went with the Filco and even though i don't know if i would recommend spending that much money on your first mechanical i can say that i'm very pleased with it, and that i'd probably do it again. If you're spending close to or over 100 bucks on a keyboard chances are you're going to be using it for a very long time, and you want to make sure that it's as good as can be. I'd say go for the QFR, unless you're really strapped for money.

Another option is Steelseries 6gv2 with red switches, its not tenkeyless and have nordic layout, i dont really know whats the differnce between nordic and us layout. But how does it compare in quality?
"Terran, who is missing in action" - me
aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
November 27 2012 17:21 GMT
#4547
On November 28 2012 01:57 Mia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 22:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:11 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 18:17 Mia wrote:
How good is Razer BlackWidow Tournament edition?
I want to buy Tenkeyless keyboard, and RBW TE is pretty much only keyboard available in my country with this feature.
I could order CM rapid fire from ebay, but it would prolly end up more expensive than razer keyboard and is it any better?


Depends on the difference in price, i guess. Most people would say that the CM Quickfire Rapid is of higher quality than anything razer puts out but if the difference in price is too substantial i don't think it's the best choice.

95$ for razer BW and 132$ for CM quick fire according to my calculations. With all shipping costs included.


Yeah you are in basically the same situation i was in a while ago when i wanted to get my first mechanical, i really wanted a TKL with blue switches but that left me with two options, ordering a CM QFR from america and wait half a month and pay about 130 bucks sans import taxes and customs or get a Filco that cost way way more but would be on my doorstep in only 3 days because it came from the UK without any hassle. In the end i went with the Filco and even though i don't know if i would recommend spending that much money on your first mechanical i can say that i'm very pleased with it, and that i'd probably do it again. If you're spending close to or over 100 bucks on a keyboard chances are you're going to be using it for a very long time, and you want to make sure that it's as good as can be. I'd say go for the QFR, unless you're really strapped for money.

Another option is Steelseries 6gv2 with red switches, its not tenkeyless and have nordic layout, i dont really know whats the differnce between nordic and us layout. But how does it compare in quality?

You can practically drop a 6gv2 off a roof and it'll still work just as good as before. I've been using a 6gv2 for a year now, never had problems with it even after dropping it on the floor and tossing it around a few times. I havent been using it as much recently since i got a Das, but it's really one of the sturdiest boards out there
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scoMalfregor
Profile Joined May 2012
Poland52 Posts
November 27 2012 17:22 GMT
#4548
Can someone describe me the actual sound of Razer Blackwidow STEALTH ? I ordered it and from what I've heard on some streams it sounds like "little clicky" reds. I mean, its not as clicky as the Blue Switch Razer BW, but it has this click. Not sure about it however, thats why I ask someone who actually own it.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 27 2012 17:56 GMT
#4549
On November 28 2012 02:21 aviator116 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 01:57 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 22:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:11 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 18:17 Mia wrote:
How good is Razer BlackWidow Tournament edition?
I want to buy Tenkeyless keyboard, and RBW TE is pretty much only keyboard available in my country with this feature.
I could order CM rapid fire from ebay, but it would prolly end up more expensive than razer keyboard and is it any better?


Depends on the difference in price, i guess. Most people would say that the CM Quickfire Rapid is of higher quality than anything razer puts out but if the difference in price is too substantial i don't think it's the best choice.

95$ for razer BW and 132$ for CM quick fire according to my calculations. With all shipping costs included.


Yeah you are in basically the same situation i was in a while ago when i wanted to get my first mechanical, i really wanted a TKL with blue switches but that left me with two options, ordering a CM QFR from america and wait half a month and pay about 130 bucks sans import taxes and customs or get a Filco that cost way way more but would be on my doorstep in only 3 days because it came from the UK without any hassle. In the end i went with the Filco and even though i don't know if i would recommend spending that much money on your first mechanical i can say that i'm very pleased with it, and that i'd probably do it again. If you're spending close to or over 100 bucks on a keyboard chances are you're going to be using it for a very long time, and you want to make sure that it's as good as can be. I'd say go for the QFR, unless you're really strapped for money.

Another option is Steelseries 6gv2 with red switches, its not tenkeyless and have nordic layout, i dont really know whats the differnce between nordic and us layout. But how does it compare in quality?

You can practically drop a 6gv2 off a roof and it'll still work just as good as before. I've been using a 6gv2 for a year now, never had problems with it even after dropping it on the floor and tossing it around a few times. I havent been using it as much recently since i got a Das, but it's really one of the sturdiest boards out there

Agreed, the 6gv2 has a very good build quality (especially considering its price tag). The big drawback though is the keys, the printing on them fades very fast.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 27 2012 18:08 GMT
#4550
On November 28 2012 02:56 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 02:21 aviator116 wrote:
On November 28 2012 01:57 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 22:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:11 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 18:17 Mia wrote:
How good is Razer BlackWidow Tournament edition?
I want to buy Tenkeyless keyboard, and RBW TE is pretty much only keyboard available in my country with this feature.
I could order CM rapid fire from ebay, but it would prolly end up more expensive than razer keyboard and is it any better?


Depends on the difference in price, i guess. Most people would say that the CM Quickfire Rapid is of higher quality than anything razer puts out but if the difference in price is too substantial i don't think it's the best choice.

95$ for razer BW and 132$ for CM quick fire according to my calculations. With all shipping costs included.


Yeah you are in basically the same situation i was in a while ago when i wanted to get my first mechanical, i really wanted a TKL with blue switches but that left me with two options, ordering a CM QFR from america and wait half a month and pay about 130 bucks sans import taxes and customs or get a Filco that cost way way more but would be on my doorstep in only 3 days because it came from the UK without any hassle. In the end i went with the Filco and even though i don't know if i would recommend spending that much money on your first mechanical i can say that i'm very pleased with it, and that i'd probably do it again. If you're spending close to or over 100 bucks on a keyboard chances are you're going to be using it for a very long time, and you want to make sure that it's as good as can be. I'd say go for the QFR, unless you're really strapped for money.

Another option is Steelseries 6gv2 with red switches, its not tenkeyless and have nordic layout, i dont really know whats the differnce between nordic and us layout. But how does it compare in quality?

You can practically drop a 6gv2 off a roof and it'll still work just as good as before. I've been using a 6gv2 for a year now, never had problems with it even after dropping it on the floor and tossing it around a few times. I havent been using it as much recently since i got a Das, but it's really one of the sturdiest boards out there

Agreed, the 6gv2 has a very good build quality (especially considering its price tag). The big drawback though is the keys, the printing on them fades very fast.


Also the really really really weird layout.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 27 2012 18:10 GMT
#4551
On November 28 2012 01:57 Mia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 22:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:11 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 18:17 Mia wrote:
How good is Razer BlackWidow Tournament edition?
I want to buy Tenkeyless keyboard, and RBW TE is pretty much only keyboard available in my country with this feature.
I could order CM rapid fire from ebay, but it would prolly end up more expensive than razer keyboard and is it any better?


Depends on the difference in price, i guess. Most people would say that the CM Quickfire Rapid is of higher quality than anything razer puts out but if the difference in price is too substantial i don't think it's the best choice.

95$ for razer BW and 132$ for CM quick fire according to my calculations. With all shipping costs included.


Yeah you are in basically the same situation i was in a while ago when i wanted to get my first mechanical, i really wanted a TKL with blue switches but that left me with two options, ordering a CM QFR from america and wait half a month and pay about 130 bucks sans import taxes and customs or get a Filco that cost way way more but would be on my doorstep in only 3 days because it came from the UK without any hassle. In the end i went with the Filco and even though i don't know if i would recommend spending that much money on your first mechanical i can say that i'm very pleased with it, and that i'd probably do it again. If you're spending close to or over 100 bucks on a keyboard chances are you're going to be using it for a very long time, and you want to make sure that it's as good as can be. I'd say go for the QFR, unless you're really strapped for money.

Another option is Steelseries 6gv2 with red switches, its not tenkeyless and have nordic layout, i dont really know whats the differnce between nordic and us layout. But how does it compare in quality?


If you're used to US layout nordic is going to fuck you up, guarranteed.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
November 27 2012 18:50 GMT
#4552
On November 28 2012 01:57 Mia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 22:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:11 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 18:17 Mia wrote:
How good is Razer BlackWidow Tournament edition?
I want to buy Tenkeyless keyboard, and RBW TE is pretty much only keyboard available in my country with this feature.
I could order CM rapid fire from ebay, but it would prolly end up more expensive than razer keyboard and is it any better?


Depends on the difference in price, i guess. Most people would say that the CM Quickfire Rapid is of higher quality than anything razer puts out but if the difference in price is too substantial i don't think it's the best choice.

95$ for razer BW and 132$ for CM quick fire according to my calculations. With all shipping costs included.


Yeah you are in basically the same situation i was in a while ago when i wanted to get my first mechanical, i really wanted a TKL with blue switches but that left me with two options, ordering a CM QFR from america and wait half a month and pay about 130 bucks sans import taxes and customs or get a Filco that cost way way more but would be on my doorstep in only 3 days because it came from the UK without any hassle. In the end i went with the Filco and even though i don't know if i would recommend spending that much money on your first mechanical i can say that i'm very pleased with it, and that i'd probably do it again. If you're spending close to or over 100 bucks on a keyboard chances are you're going to be using it for a very long time, and you want to make sure that it's as good as can be. I'd say go for the QFR, unless you're really strapped for money.

Another option is Steelseries 6gv2 with red switches, its not tenkeyless and have nordic layout, i dont really know whats the differnce between nordic and us layout. But how does it compare in quality?


If you don't need to know all the special characters placement, then it doesn't matter since you can just choose how the computer responds to a keystroke (ie. US or Nordic), however if you like me can't remember where " ', $ / " and so forth are located without looking on your keyboard, you will be royally screwed.

US layout
Nordic Layout
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
November 27 2012 18:52 GMT
#4553
On November 28 2012 03:08 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 02:56 ACrow wrote:
On November 28 2012 02:21 aviator116 wrote:
On November 28 2012 01:57 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 22:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:11 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 18:17 Mia wrote:
How good is Razer BlackWidow Tournament edition?
I want to buy Tenkeyless keyboard, and RBW TE is pretty much only keyboard available in my country with this feature.
I could order CM rapid fire from ebay, but it would prolly end up more expensive than razer keyboard and is it any better?


Depends on the difference in price, i guess. Most people would say that the CM Quickfire Rapid is of higher quality than anything razer puts out but if the difference in price is too substantial i don't think it's the best choice.

95$ for razer BW and 132$ for CM quick fire according to my calculations. With all shipping costs included.


Yeah you are in basically the same situation i was in a while ago when i wanted to get my first mechanical, i really wanted a TKL with blue switches but that left me with two options, ordering a CM QFR from america and wait half a month and pay about 130 bucks sans import taxes and customs or get a Filco that cost way way more but would be on my doorstep in only 3 days because it came from the UK without any hassle. In the end i went with the Filco and even though i don't know if i would recommend spending that much money on your first mechanical i can say that i'm very pleased with it, and that i'd probably do it again. If you're spending close to or over 100 bucks on a keyboard chances are you're going to be using it for a very long time, and you want to make sure that it's as good as can be. I'd say go for the QFR, unless you're really strapped for money.

Another option is Steelseries 6gv2 with red switches, its not tenkeyless and have nordic layout, i dont really know whats the differnce between nordic and us layout. But how does it compare in quality?

You can practically drop a 6gv2 off a roof and it'll still work just as good as before. I've been using a 6gv2 for a year now, never had problems with it even after dropping it on the floor and tossing it around a few times. I havent been using it as much recently since i got a Das, but it's really one of the sturdiest boards out there

Agreed, the 6gv2 has a very good build quality (especially considering its price tag). The big drawback though is the keys, the printing on them fades very fast.


Also the really really really weird layout.


Weird? Standard nordic except for the ^^¨¨~~ is located next to ------_____
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 27 2012 19:00 GMT
#4554
On November 28 2012 03:52 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 03:08 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 28 2012 02:56 ACrow wrote:
On November 28 2012 02:21 aviator116 wrote:
On November 28 2012 01:57 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 22:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:11 Mia wrote:
On November 27 2012 19:07 Fragile51 wrote:
On November 27 2012 18:17 Mia wrote:
How good is Razer BlackWidow Tournament edition?
I want to buy Tenkeyless keyboard, and RBW TE is pretty much only keyboard available in my country with this feature.
I could order CM rapid fire from ebay, but it would prolly end up more expensive than razer keyboard and is it any better?


Depends on the difference in price, i guess. Most people would say that the CM Quickfire Rapid is of higher quality than anything razer puts out but if the difference in price is too substantial i don't think it's the best choice.

95$ for razer BW and 132$ for CM quick fire according to my calculations. With all shipping costs included.


Yeah you are in basically the same situation i was in a while ago when i wanted to get my first mechanical, i really wanted a TKL with blue switches but that left me with two options, ordering a CM QFR from america and wait half a month and pay about 130 bucks sans import taxes and customs or get a Filco that cost way way more but would be on my doorstep in only 3 days because it came from the UK without any hassle. In the end i went with the Filco and even though i don't know if i would recommend spending that much money on your first mechanical i can say that i'm very pleased with it, and that i'd probably do it again. If you're spending close to or over 100 bucks on a keyboard chances are you're going to be using it for a very long time, and you want to make sure that it's as good as can be. I'd say go for the QFR, unless you're really strapped for money.

Another option is Steelseries 6gv2 with red switches, its not tenkeyless and have nordic layout, i dont really know whats the differnce between nordic and us layout. But how does it compare in quality?

You can practically drop a 6gv2 off a roof and it'll still work just as good as before. I've been using a 6gv2 for a year now, never had problems with it even after dropping it on the floor and tossing it around a few times. I havent been using it as much recently since i got a Das, but it's really one of the sturdiest boards out there

Agreed, the 6gv2 has a very good build quality (especially considering its price tag). The big drawback though is the keys, the printing on them fades very fast.


Also the really really really weird layout.


Weird? Standard nordic except for the ^^¨¨~~ is located next to ------_____


I meant the big ass enter combined with something that resembles a US layout with a normal left shift and the \\ next to right shift instead of over the small enter. It's weird.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
November 27 2012 19:18 GMT
#4555
On November 27 2012 22:50 Mia wrote:
another thing i have been reading blue switches arent that great for gaming?


I use a CM storm quickfire rapid w/ blues for Starcraft. I think maybe browns might have been nicer, but they're so hard to find. I am definitely happy with them, there's nothing really wrong with blues for RTS imo.
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Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 22:16:54
November 27 2012 20:06 GMT
#4556
On November 28 2012 02:22 scoMalfregor wrote:
Can someone describe me the actual sound of Razer Blackwidow STEALTH ? I ordered it and from what I've heard on some streams it sounds like "little clicky" reds. I mean, its not as clicky as the Blue Switch Razer BW, but it has this click. Not sure about it however, thats why I ask someone who actually own it.

I don't have a Blackwidow Stealth, but some other keyboard with brown switches. There's the bottoming out sound if you hammer keys, but there's another thing to know, I feel. They can make a pretty loud sound when the key goes back up and hits its highest point. If your finger still stay rested on the key, this is muffled. It's only really loud if you are typing text, not when gaming on the WASD keys, for example.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
scoMalfregor
Profile Joined May 2012
Poland52 Posts
November 27 2012 20:13 GMT
#4557
On November 28 2012 05:06 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 02:22 scoMalfregor wrote:
Can someone describe me the actual sound of Razer Blackwidow STEALTH ? I ordered it and from what I've heard on some streams it sounds like "little clicky" reds. I mean, its not as clicky as the Blue Switch Razer BW, but it has this click. Not sure about it however, thats why I ask someone who actually own it.

I don't have a Blackwidow Stealth, but some other keyboard with brown switches. There's the bottoming out sound if you hammer keys, but there's another thing to know, I feel. They can make a pretty loud sound when the key goes back up and hits its highest point. If your finger still stayed rested on the key, this is muffled. It's only really loud if you are typing text, not when gaming on the WASD keys, for example.


Big thanks man
Im sure what I've heard on streams, most pro's hammer the keys and dont rest fingers on keys (due to high apm).
I had Cherry MX Black, Blue's and also Kailh Reds (Cherry wanna-be, 50g force) and I was looking for something between black and blue's. I hope I picked good keyboard with good switches.
Thanks
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 27 2012 21:51 GMT
#4558
So even though I'm absolutely in love with my Filco majestouch with mx browns, I saw a sale at Fry's Electronics today for the 'new' (no huge logos allover the keyboard) coolermaster quickfire tenkeyless (mx blues) for only $59.95. Do I need another keyboard? Absolutely not! But I've always wanted to mess around with blues and the coolmasters are insanely cost efficient at $60. I can't wait to play with my new toy. Even if I end up using the Filco in the end, I can put this guy to use somehow! Very excited to get off work and try it out.
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zoglug
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United Kingdom56 Posts
November 27 2012 22:24 GMT
#4559
Does anyone know any uk sellers of the 6vg2 with reds? I'm close to picking up my first mechanical board, but its the 6vg2 with blacks for a decent price but if I can get one with reds I'd much prefer!
You cant see where you are going......if you constantly look at where you have been
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
November 28 2012 04:34 GMT
#4560
On November 28 2012 01:49 ripster wrote:
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On November 27 2012 22:50 Mia wrote:
another thing i have been reading blue switches arent that great for gaming?


Please don't read guides at Overclock.net and GeekWhack.org.

They are morons.

Yes, Yes, We get that the /KL and Deskthority sites are superior, we don't need you to be a jackass about it literally every other post. Dumb interforums drama should stay on the forums it's about.
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