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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 20:34:28
September 12 2013 20:31 GMT
#7661
but after restarting the PC about 15 minutes after a crash, it's reading a GPU core temp of 45 C


It's shocking how fast stuff changes temperature; if you apply high stress test loads to a current overclocked intel CPU for example you can snap from 30c to 80c within the 1 second window of a refresh of a temperature monitor. That kind of sharp change doesn't happen in many cases, but temperatures 15 minutes after load are basically just idle temps, it only takes like a minute or two for a desktop GPU to cool down

Especially because your hdd knocked the cpu fan/heatsink i'd check CPU and GPU temperatures with a CPU/GPU stress test. x264 benchmark 5.0.1 and Unigine Heaven 4.0 are examples of two programs that will stress cpu (x264) and gpu (heaven) in a real-world way and you can monitor CPU and GPU from Hwinfo (hardwareinfo)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
issh
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands96 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 21:08:01
September 12 2013 21:06 GMT
#7662
Sup everybody

So i have a dual monitor setup, the benq xl2420t combined with a Samsung-p2250.

I was away for awhile, and as i came back home the monitors were both in sleep-mode state, however my samsung monitor stayed in sleep mode (power light still on), i re-plugged the power cable and it turns on for about 2 seconds and makes a high pitched buzzing noise, then shuts off again. It seems like the noise is coming from the top left corner of the monitor.

If anyone has any idea what the problem could be, or if i should just dump it all-together (its about 5 years old) that would be greatly appriciated!
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 21:27:30
September 12 2013 21:26 GMT
#7663
Somewhat likely to be a problem with the internal power supply or electronics driving the display. Those things can theoretically be replaced, but you're probably in the market for a new monitor.

As for anything that takes in mains voltage or higher (and is storing high voltages inside), don't mess around with the internal electronics unless you know what you're doing.

edit: I mean, try a different input, replugging in stuff, etc. to make sure it's not that, but it sounds like it died
issh
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands96 Posts
September 12 2013 21:40 GMT
#7664
Aye, seems to be the case, tried some different inputs, re-plugging alot ect, the sound actually gets worse sometimes, i guess ill just have to buy something else.

Thanks for the help.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 13 2013 01:46 GMT
#7665
Does anyone know a good way for me to do diagnostics? I am having occasional issues that appear to be video card related with freezing, mostly when I'm doing nothing of value.
Freeeeeeedom
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
September 13 2013 01:55 GMT
#7666
You need to provide more information like your specs, are you overclocked, what is considered freezing, recent changes, etc. What makes you think that it is video card related? Video card related issues typically aren't freezes.
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 04:35:23
September 13 2013 03:24 GMT
#7667
On September 13 2013 05:31 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
but after restarting the PC about 15 minutes after a crash, it's reading a GPU core temp of 45 C


It's shocking how fast stuff changes temperature; if you apply high stress test loads to a current overclocked intel CPU for example you can snap from 30c to 80c within the 1 second window of a refresh of a temperature monitor. That kind of sharp change doesn't happen in many cases, but temperatures 15 minutes after load are basically just idle temps, it only takes like a minute or two for a desktop GPU to cool down

Especially because your hdd knocked the cpu fan/heatsink i'd check CPU and GPU temperatures with a CPU/GPU stress test. x264 benchmark 5.0.1 and Unigine Heaven 4.0 are examples of two programs that will stress cpu (x264) and gpu (heaven) in a real-world way and you can monitor CPU and GPU from Hwinfo (hardwareinfo)


It's an entirely new computer, the CPU and motherboard are new, and aren't the same as the ones knocked in the HDD incident, so I'm confident that they're fine.

I did some poking using Furmark to stress-test my GPU and see what it did. After 15 minutes of a burn-in test (??) it had essentially flatlined at 85 C, having risen there from the starting value of 58 C in about 5 minutes, and more or less levelling off from there. I'll take a look at heaven (it looks shiny!) and see how it fares running that for a bit! Thanks.

[Edit]

Ran a benchmark and wandered around a bit in heaven (lol). Core temperature never exceeded 80 and everyrhing else was stable.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 13 2013 03:35 GMT
#7668
On September 13 2013 10:55 skyR wrote:
You need to provide more information like your specs, are you overclocked, what is considered freezing, recent changes, etc. What makes you think that it is video card related? Video card related issues typically aren't freezes.


Not overclocked.

Intel i7-2600 3.4 Ghz
8 GB Ram
Windows 7 Ult 64- Bit
Nvidia GTX 560 Ti
110 GB SSD (Mostly OS is on this)
500 GB HD
Asus P8 Z77-V Moba

What makes me suspect it is vid-card related is that occasionally when the issue happens the computer "fixes" itself and then tells me that the video card has been reset after an error.
Freeeeeeedom
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 13 2013 04:24 GMT
#7669
Which GPU driver are you on?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 05:53:49
September 13 2013 05:53 GMT
#7670
I bet that's the same crashes I had. I also have a GTX 560 Ti. There were serious problems with 320.xx drivers. 326.80 also seemed suspicious. 314.22 works fine.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Olferen
Profile Joined March 2013
United States39 Posts
September 13 2013 05:58 GMT
#7671
Hello, I am interested in switching from AMD processors to Intel, and I was wondering what parts of the computer need to be replaced. I know for sure that I'll have to switch out the motherboard and the processor(duh), are there any other parts that I'll need to switch?
Dancing with myself oh oh oh.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 06:24:19
September 13 2013 05:59 GMT
#7672
On September 13 2013 14:53 Ropid wrote:
I bet that's the same crashes I had. I also have a GTX 560 Ti. There were serious problems with 320.xx drivers. 326.80 also seemed suspicious. 314.22 works fine.


I am on 320.49. Is there an easy way to revert the drivers?

Edit, I figured that out, will report if problem seems fixed.
Freeeeeeedom
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 13 2013 06:26 GMT
#7673
On September 13 2013 14:58 Olferen wrote:
Hello, I am interested in switching from AMD processors to Intel, and I was wondering what parts of the computer need to be replaced. I know for sure that I'll have to switch out the motherboard and the processor(duh), are there any other parts that I'll need to switch?


What are you switching from and to?

CPU, Mobo, maybe RAM or even disk drives, it depends how old your old stuff is
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Olferen
Profile Joined March 2013
United States39 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 08:09:18
September 13 2013 08:01 GMT
#7674
I was hoping for this motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131995

And this processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899

My stuff is about 3 years old, it's as follows.

CPU: AMD Phenom X4 925 Processor 4 CPUs, ~2.8GHz

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 5570

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-M68MT-S2P

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3726#ov
This piece of shit.

I am not sure what brand my RAM is, but I have two 4GB sticks.
Dancing with myself oh oh oh.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 13 2013 08:27 GMT
#7675
It's DDR3, so it'd work, check that your hard drive etc is sata (it probably is, some older stuff used another standard though)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
September 13 2013 10:16 GMT
#7676
@Olferen:

You are wasting money on the CPU. The i5-4670k and i5-4670 are very similar products. The "k" at the end means the CPU has unlocked multiplier for overclocking. The board you are looking at can't overclock a "k" processor, so i5-4670 is the same for you. You might also want to look at lower speed CPUs like i5-4570 for example.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
September 13 2013 10:45 GMT
#7677
The i5-4670k and i5-4670 are very similar products. The "k" at the end means the CPU has unlocked multiplier for overclocking.


I didn't mention this because a lot of people like to roll in lottery of getting a good unlocked cpu, if it's bad like 4.3ghz @1.25 it's still worth more than a locked one resale, but you got a like a 1 in 10 chance of 4.7@1.25 and 1 in 50 of 4.8@1.25 or something along those lines which is hidden treasure. A lot of people buying cpu+mobo like this wouldn't even check, however
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Olferen
Profile Joined March 2013
United States39 Posts
September 13 2013 11:44 GMT
#7678
@Ropid

What would I be looking for in a motherboard to indicate that it can overclock a CPU? Or is it just that MOBO can't overclock the "k" processors? I am looking for a better long term motherboard as my current one is not upgradeable.
Dancing with myself oh oh oh.
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
September 13 2013 11:46 GMT
#7679
Where can i manage my favorite streams? I am at maximum number and want to delete some.
NaNiwa | Innovation | Flash | DeMuslim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 12:08:29
September 13 2013 11:58 GMT
#7680
On September 13 2013 20:44 Olferen wrote:
@Ropid

What would I be looking for in a motherboard to indicate that it can overclock a CPU? Or is it just that MOBO can't overclock the "k" processors? I am looking for a better long term motherboard as my current one is not upgradeable.


Z87 chipset

Something more about the motherboard choice:

It should be possible to get away with something pretty cheap for Z87 and i5-4670k and i7-4770k CPUs despite overclocking. The CPUs have problems with getting the heat they produce out, but they actually do not use much power. This means what you know from AMD overclocking or older Intel CPUs about motherboard choice might not be so important anymore. You don't have to worry about the motherboard's voltage regulation parts being too weak for overclocking and overheating. Perhaps just make sure you see a heat-sink on the parts around the CPU socket in pictures of the board and that's it.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
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