EPTFILCO Majestouch Tenkeyless - which Switch Type? - Page 6
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FragKrag
United States11554 Posts
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
You can read this comparison of the Das vs. Filco to get an idea of which you'd prefer. Personally, I think the glossy finish on the Das would be very annoying, and I prefer the smaller, space-saving bezel on the Filco. They're both manufactured by Costar, so the quality is very similar. | ||
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Watsonator
United States43 Posts
On October 18 2010 11:58 FragKrag wrote: blacks are actually really annoying to type on. High actuation force + no tactile feedback makes them sooooo awkward. FPS supposedly gets a benefit from linear force, but you just end up bottoming out when typing. Which is why I am going with a brown. Everyone has their own preference and blacks just don't seem to fit me. The browns will provide the tactile bump I like, without the occasional non-registering double tap and annoyance to my roommates of the blues, as well as a lighter force requirement and no "smooth" feeling of the blacks. Edit: I am also a college student so it's not solely SC2 for me. Edit2: Thank you Captain for that link. | ||
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ToEiGht
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 18 2010 12:01 CaptainFwiffo wrote: Don't listen to semantics. He doesn't actually know anything about mechanical keyboards and I doubt he's ever owned one (a couple days ago he was trolling keyboard threads trashing people for buying them, now he's trolling them giving out questionable information). You can read this comparison of the Das vs. Filco to get an idea of which you'd prefer. Personally, I think the glossy finish on the Das would be very annoying, and I prefer the smaller, space-saving bezel on the Filco. They're both manufactured by Costar, so the quality is very similar. You'd be annoyed by the glossy finish but not the habit of flico boards of getting shiny. You call it trolling i call it common sense spend 20-40 bucks on a keyboard or spend 150 bucks after tax and shipping on a keyboard what would i want. For gaming mechanical keyboards, god the excuses people make are just bull. For typing they are great maybe worth the premium price. But for games they aren't worth anything. People bottom out keys in games so what's the difference from a good rubber dome. Typing i get it. But for games it's just people making shit ton of excuses to spend a lot of money on a keyboard it's like reading the audiophile forums, so much full of crap. And you're hardly going to get an honest response from CaptianFwiffo with his quote being You can call me... Keyboard Otaku. | ||
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Virtue
United States318 Posts
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hkfosho
Canada213 Posts
On October 18 2010 13:08 semantics wrote: You'd be annoyed by the glossy finish but not the habit of flico boards of getting shiny. You call it trolling i call it common sense spend 20-40 bucks on a keyboard or spend 150 bucks after tax and shipping on a keyboard what would i want. For gaming mechanical keyboards, god the excuses people make are just bull. For typing they are great maybe worth the premium price. But for games they aren't worth anything. People bottom out keys in games so what's the difference from a good rubber dome. Typing i get it. But for games it's just people making shit ton of excuses to spend a lot of money on a keyboard it's like reading the audiophile forums, so much full of crap. And you're hardly going to get an honest response from CaptianFwiffo with his quote being You can call me... Keyboard Otaku. Filco keyboards don't turn shiny... where's your source on that? Maybe on pro-level gaming, it can make a slight difference when using mechanical keyboards as opposed to rubber dome, so I agree with you about the general population of gamers being delusional into thinking that mech keyboards will improve their skill. However looking at your other posts, I think you're mostly upset due to the fact that ppl are buying these keyboards for luxury. You can call it common sense if you want (maybe you're financially challenged or just really cautious with your money, I dunno) but there are ppl who are willing to spend more than the usual amount for preference/luxury/etc. Basically you prefer buying shoes from Wal-mart rather than from a high-end designer because it's "common sense" to buy the cheaper one with almost the same quality... but not everyone is anti-materialistic like you, sadly. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 18 2010 13:25 hkfosho wrote: Filco keyboards don't turn shiny... where's your source on that? Maybe on pro-level gaming, it can make a slight difference when using mechanical keyboards as opposed to rubber dome, so I agree with you about the general population of gamers being delusional into thinking that mech keyboards will improve their skill. However looking at your other posts, I think you're mostly upset due to the fact that ppl are buying these keyboards for luxury. You can call it common sense if you want (maybe you're financially challenged or just really cautious with your money, I dunno) but there are ppl who are willing to spend more than the usual amount for preference/luxury/etc. Basically you prefer buying shoes from Wal-mart rather than from a high-end designer because it's "common sense" to buy the cheaper one with almost the same quality... but not everyone is anti-materialistic like you, sadly. T_T The Filcos tend to get shiny after a while - this is primarily because they have a fine matte finish whereas the Das have the more traditional "pebbly" finish. In the very link of Das vs Flico | ||
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
On October 18 2010 13:08 semantics wrote:...with his quote being You can call me... Keyboard Otaku. Somebody called me a keyboard otaku after I recognized Fruit Dealer's keyboard and posted a screenshot and then Elite Keyboards sold out of FIlcos. I thought it was funny. Do you have first hand experience with any of these mechanical keyboards, semantics? If you're giving out advice and recommendations... | ||
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hkfosho
Canada213 Posts
On October 18 2010 13:35 semantics wrote: In the very link of Das vs Flico This is regarding the keycaps, not the actual keyboard. The other poster was talking about the glossy finish as in the entire Das keyboard, and it would be annoying because of the constant fingerprints and dust-proneness. The shininess of the keycaps on the filco after awhile is so minimal it shouldn't even be considered a con. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 18 2010 13:47 CaptainFwiffo wrote: Somebody called me a keyboard otaku after I recognized Fruit Dealer's keyboard and posted a screenshot and then Elite Keyboards sold out of FIlcos. I thought it was funny. Do you have first hand experience with any of these mechanical keyboards, semantics? If you're giving out advice and recommendations... I own a das keyboard II blank keys doesn't look so pretty very loud if you bottom out keys. Feels nice still for typing but i don't use it anymore i just use one of my old MS natural ones. The only Mech keyboard that fancies me right now is http://www.trulyergonomic.com/ that' just because i have a separate num pad and deskspace for me gets limited at times. Granted it is a cherry mech but i'm frankly more interested in the key layout and dimensions of the keyboard then it being a mechanical keyboard. On October 18 2010 13:59 hkfosho wrote: This is regarding the keycaps, not the actual keyboard. The other poster was talking about the glossy finish as in the entire Das keyboard, and it would be annoying because of the constant fingerprints and dust-proneness. The shininess of the keycaps on the filco after awhile is so minimal it shouldn't even be considered a con. If you type alot esp with greasy fingers you're whole keycaps will be shiny which will make your keyboard shiny in spots progressing with keys you use the most. All keyboards are prone to dust. And the comment was about ascetics frankly you can clean off dust and fingerprints but you can't remove the little shiny marks all over your flico keyboard short of replacing keys. But honestly who cares besides you who is going to look at your keyboard and why do you see their approval. | ||
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zgl
United States1055 Posts
 Probably going to get a Realforce for xmas to satisfy my curiosity. Don't like DAS. It is too big, also, the keys felt kinda loose (tried it at the JandR store). For around 60, I think the thinkpad keyboard with trackpoint is a good space saving keyboard. I also tried a coworkers compact model m board, it is amazing. Too hard to find though  The mx brown feedback doesn't feel sharp enough, after trying the m. | ||
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hkfosho
Canada213 Posts
On October 18 2010 15:03 zgl wrote: I am using filco mx brown tenkeyless. It is very nice Probably going to get a Realforce for xmas to satisfy my curiosity. Don't like DAS. It is too big, also, the keys felt kinda loose (tried it at the JandR store). For around 60, I think the thinkpad keyboard with trackpoint is a good space saving keyboard. I also tried a coworkers compact model m board, it is amazing. Too hard to find though The mx brown feedback doesn't feel sharp enough, after trying the m. good choice on the filco bud, truly the best for its price ! Yes, stay away from Das, it's really not that great: | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 18 2010 15:40 hkfosho wrote: good choice on the filco bud, truly the best for its price ! Yes, stay away from Das, it's really not that great:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJitURx3ZVQ Das uses lazer etched keys unless you press really hard when you type and sweat alot you actually can't remove the lettering on it; in short unless you actually are physically wearing down the keys which would make you a bad typer... It's just dirty clean your keys right and it pops right back out. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On August 22 2010 06:09 kzn wrote: I'm guessing people think Blue/Brown are better for RTS because they provide feedback on when the key actuates (although its inaccurate, in both cases). This only really holds if you don't bottom out when you press keys while playing, which everyone I know does. Far better, imo, to have keys that have predictable resistance at all points in the keypress, are much easier to spam if you dont completely release the key between presses, and feel glorious to use (even when typing). Ideally you'd want Red switches but they barely exist anymore :< The feedback is perfectly accurate with my keyboard with blue switches. I tried pushing down various keys with the index finger from both hands while going as slow as I can. The key never actuates before the "click", and I can't make the keys "click" without them producing a letter. This holds true with a handful different keys I tested. It's super-good engineering and seems to work better than it looks like in that actuation force graphic from the Cherry product documents. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4373 Posts
On October 18 2010 13:08 semantics wrote: You'd be annoyed by the glossy finish but not the habit of flico boards of getting shiny. You call it trolling i call it common sense spend 20-40 bucks on a keyboard or spend 150 bucks after tax and shipping on a keyboard what would i want. $150 is nothing if you work full time | ||
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lynx.oblige
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
After using blues and browns for a while you'll probably get used to not bottoming out 100% of the time. On October 18 2010 17:37 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: $150 is nothing if you work full time Where is $150 coming from anyway. As RTS players, you really don't need the NKRO versions, which cost more for a feature an RTS player will almost never use (if ever). They also don't appear to be making the Otaku (textless) versions anymore, which again cost more than the standard models. My friend has had a FILCO going on 2 years now and it's STILL as solid as my fresh month old Tactile Touch. | ||
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
On October 18 2010 20:04 lynx.oblige wrote: People shouldn't assume that if you use blues or browns that you'll be bottoming out while gaming anyway. Maybe in an intense situation where you just need to get your actions out as quickly and confidently as possible - but, especially in the early game, in not so intense situations I don't bottom out very much at all. After using blues and browns for a while you'll probably get used to not bottoming out 100% of the time. Pretty much, I've been using my Filco with browns for over a year now and I hardly ever bottom out anymore when playing SC2. Once you get accustomed to the force required to depress the key it becomes a very smooth experience in regards to keystrokes.  | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19180 Posts
On October 18 2010 17:37 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: $150 is nothing if you work full time Unless you work a minimum wage job, or like a lot of students, part-time (and minimum wage). | ||
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lynx.oblige
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
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