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On March 21 2012 03:56 billy5000 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Why are people worried about overclocking? Can't you just follow a simple guide on how to overclock and be set? Sorry, I've never overclocked before, but I'm a bit uneasy why there is even a preference whether you want to overclock or not when the process is so simple and the value is much much better (or so I've heard).
Not sure what you mean but an overclock configuration costs more than a non-overclockable configuration since you need a P67 / Z68 motherboard along with a K suffix processor and an aftermarket heatsink.
You can follow a simple guide but many people fail at reading and common sense as well. Some people are also paranoid.
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On March 21 2012 03:56 billy5000 wrote:
Why are people worried about overclocking? Can't you just follow a simple guide on how to overclock and be set? Sorry, I've never overclocked before, but I'm a bit uneasy why there is even a preference whether you want to overclock or not when the process is so simple and the value is much much better (or so I've heard).
Because people that have no idea what their doing have potential to screw up the instructions and screwing up an overclock can be potentially harmful for your hardware. You also need invest more money into your computer (mobo, heatsink etc) so if you are not doing things that can benefit from an overclock it's just wasted money and effort. If you have the hardware and interest go for it but it's not for everyone.
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For a lot of configurations and applications the value is worse, at least for CPU overclocking.
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Im looking to build a new computer and have no real knowledge of what parts are good/bad, needed etc. So I would like some help.
What is your budget?
£800-£1000
What is your resolution?
1900x1200
What are you using it for?
I want the pc to be able to stream HD while being able to play the latest games in the highest graphics settings.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years
When do you plan on building it?
About 3-4 weeks time
Do you plan on overclocking?
Only if needed to stream.
Do you need an Operating System?
no
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
if needed to stream.
Where are you buying your parts from?
U.K.
Thx for the help in advance.
Edit: no need for monitor, speakers etc only parts inside the case + the case, really need some help because i have no clue what i need.
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What is your budget?
400-650 dollars
What is your resolution?
1024X720 minimum display resolution
What are you using it for?
Playing Stracraft 2 on low details
What is your upgrade cycle?
Not sure, this will be my first computer that I build. I would preferably pick up a really cheap one that cane play SC2 and HotS at low details, then just build a new one when SC3 comes out.
When do you plan on building it?
This month
Do you plan on overclocking?
Probably not.
Do you need an Operating System?
yes
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
probably not
Where are you buying your parts from?
US
Can any of you beat this build in price?
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 - $49.99 ($10.00 MIR)
PSU: Corsair CX500 - $59.99 ($20.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Intel BOXDH67DLCB3 - $89.99
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i3-2120 - $117.99
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB 1600Mhz - $42.99
HD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $84.99
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: Sapphire Flex 6770 - $129.99 ($10.00 MIR)
Monitor: Acer S201HL - $99.99
Total: $688.71 - $40.00 MIR = $648.71
A little over the $600 budget with monitor but without it's around $548.71.
I was considering the g620. Does anyone use a computer with that CPU for SC2?
Does it do the job?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399
And would this GPU work well with the g620?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102952
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On March 21 2012 01:53 Aycrith wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
1000$
What is your resolution?
1920x1080 x4
What are you using it for?
Gaming/Streaming/Work
What is your upgrade cycle?
Very long time, no plans on upgrading in the near future.
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Yes, I created a post about a week ago. Everyone was very helpful giving me additional information on what would work best on for my situation. I've decided that I need SLI and 2 cards to support 4 monitors. I just need to know what are the most cost efficient cards to buy that will last me the longest amount of time.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg unless anyone has a better solution.
In my last post I was hoping to use some of my old parts frrom my existing computer. I've now decided to overhaul everything and buy everything from the case up.
Thank you everyone!
SLI / CrossfireX is not required to support more than two displays so I'm not sure how you decided you need SLI. If you are going to be doing SLI, you might as well overclock since all SLI boards are P67 / Z68 boards.
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On March 21 2012 04:54 StratWaffle wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget? 400-650 dollars What is your resolution? 1024X720 minimum display resolution What are you using it for? Playing Stracraft 2 on low details What is your upgrade cycle? Not sure, this will be my first computer that I build. I would preferably pick up a really cheap one that cane play SC2 and HotS at low details, then just build a new one when SC3 comes out. When do you plan on building it? This month Do you plan on overclocking? Probably not. Do you need an Operating System? yes Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? probably not Where are you buying your parts from? US Can any of you beat this build in price? Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 - $49.99 ($10.00 MIR) PSU: Corsair CX500 - $59.99 ($20.00 MIR) Motherboard: Intel BOXDH67DLCB3 - $89.99 CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i3-2120 - $117.99 RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB 1600Mhz - $42.99 HD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $84.99 Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - $17.99 Video Card: Sapphire Flex 6770 - $129.99 ($10.00 MIR) Monitor: Acer S201HL - $99.99 Total: $688.71 - $40.00 MIR = $648.71 A little over the $600 budget with monitor but without it's around $548.71. I was considering the g620. Does anyone use a computer with that CPU for SC2? Does it do the job? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116399And would this GPU work well with the g620? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102952
Case is ridiculously overpriced, you can get a Bitfenix Merc Alpha for $35: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1361
CX500 is a waste of money since your configuration barely uses over 100w. Not to mention, it's overpriced. Antec power supplies are on sale until the end of the day, you can pick up an Earthwatts 430D for ~$38 with promo code: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034
You can get a Seagate Barracuda for $75: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1361
6770 for $130 is ridiculous and unnecessary for such a pityful resolution, you can get a 6790 for the same price, get a 6850 for slightly more, or get a 6770 for less. All these cards would be capable of playing Starcraft II on max at 1024x768.
Just get a H61 board because I highly doubt you going to be needing SATA 6Gbps anytime soon for a SSD.
1600MHz memory is also pointless since H61 and H67 can't run memory at 1600MHz, just pick up a 2x4gb 1333MHz kit for $35 or get it in a combo with something else. I'd probably suggest 4gb instead as well.
Let's not forget to mention that you didn't even budget in the operating system even though you say you need one..?
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That unit is terrible.
If you aren't going to overclock than get a core i5 2500 and a H61 / H67 motherboard instead.
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for anyone looking for a cheap build capable of playing blizz games on max
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On March 20 2012 14:11 Melancholia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 12:49 skyR wrote:
You are purchasing it with the knowledge that it sucks right? Because I did mention that it sucks. Ah, I had somehow managed to miss it. Still, for $270 it's tempting. There's an Asus alternative for $260.
Could I get an opinion on the Asus board? And as for RAM, I'm assuming that if I got 8 of any identical 8GB sticks (or 4, 6, etc.) it should work? Or do some RAM sticks not scale for some reason?
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Besides the fact that it's missing a USB3 header for some stupid reason, it's a good board.
You get 8x8gb kits because they're tested to work together.
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On March 21 2012 07:27 skyR wrote:
Besides the fact that it's missing a USB3 header for some stupid reason, it's a good board.
You get 8x8gb kits because they're tested to work together.
Ah, so I shouldn't trust, for example, this GSKILL 2x8GB kit to work as an 8x8GB set?
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You could, it's just nit guaranteed to work
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What might prevent it from working?
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Can someone explain the difference between power supplies with 12V1 x2 12V rails and just a single 12V rail? (In the specifications, or along those lines)? I don't really understand the difference. Also, between a "continuous" power supply (Antec Neo Eco 520C) and one that isn't labeled as continuous?
So, a teacher at my school -somehow- convinced like 4 kids to buy P67 motherboards to pair with i5-2400/2500s (instead of H67)... and one of them bought an Asrock Fatality... (None of them have any intentions of overclocking). It made me want to cry, haha. On that note, is the only difference between P67 and H67 overclocking, for the most part?
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On March 21 2012 08:34 Alryk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Can someone explain the difference between power supplies with 12V1 x2 12V rails and just a single 12V rail? (In the specifications, or along those lines)? I don't really understand the difference. Also, between a "continuous" power supply (Antec Neo Eco 520C) and one that isn't labeled as continuous?
So, a teacher at my school -somehow- convinced like 4 kids to buy P67 motherboards to pair with i5-2400/2500s (instead of H67)... and one of them bought an Asrock Fatality... (None of them have any intentions of overclocking). It made me want to cry, haha. On that note, is the only difference between P67 and H67 overclocking, for the most part?
Single rail means every component draws from a single 12v rail. Having multiple rails means that a certain set of cables will draw from one 12v rail while another set of cables will draw from a second 12v rail and so on. In the end, it doesn't matter for you.
Continuous power means the amount the power supply can output continuously (self explanatory?). A power supply rated for peak power means that it can only output that amount for a short period of time. I'm not sure how this question is relevant since all the power supplies you should be buying are rated for continuous.
H67 has IGP capabilities, P67 does not but ya.. besides that, the other major difference is overclocking capabilities.
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It should be noted though that when a power supply mentions it has multiple rails, and then gives a wattage over the sum of them, that they are all connected to one real rail. The child rails are all called "virtual" rails.
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