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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
SirHyoon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia46 Posts
March 19 2012 11:47 GMT
#19701
Just a quick question, which one is more worth it : (Purchasing locally because its just much easier for me to acquire)

2500K
http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=606549&CategoryID=235

2600K
http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=606550&CategoryID=235

or

2700K
http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=608204&CategoryID=235

and if possible, what kind of graphics card would work the best with the best one here.
I'll be mostly using the computer for gaming and a bit of video editing work.

Thanks in advance,
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
March 19 2012 12:12 GMT
#19702
need to know your budget, resolution, expectancy
<3 Kim Taeyeon
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
March 19 2012 14:45 GMT
#19703
On March 19 2012 20:47 SirHyoon wrote:
Just a quick question, which one is more worth it : (Purchasing locally because its just much easier for me to acquire)

2500K
http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=606549&CategoryID=235

2600K
http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=606550&CategoryID=235

or

2700K
http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=608204&CategoryID=235

and if possible, what kind of graphics card would work the best with the best one here.
I'll be mostly using the computer for gaming and a bit of video editing work.

Thanks in advance,


Budget info would be great, but absent any information, the best bang for buck would be the i5-2500k. Hyper Threading is not worth an extra $100 in most people's eyes.
SirHyoon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia46 Posts
March 19 2012 15:54 GMT
#19704
On March 19 2012 23:45 ensign_lee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 20:47 SirHyoon wrote:
Just a quick question, which one is more worth it : (Purchasing locally because its just much easier for me to acquire)

2500K
http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=606549&CategoryID=235

2600K
http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=606550&CategoryID=235

or

2700K
http://ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=608204&CategoryID=235

and if possible, what kind of graphics card would work the best with the best one here.
I'll be mostly using the computer for gaming and a bit of video editing work.

Thanks in advance,


Budget info would be great, but absent any information, the best bang for buck would be the i5-2500k. Hyper Threading is not worth an extra $100 in most people's eyes.


budget for overall build would be around 800-1100 max, sorry forgot T_T
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
March 19 2012 15:58 GMT
#19705
I would suggest a 2500k for "a bit" of video editing. And something like the recently released 7870 for a GPU. Depends on how much you end up wanting to spend. These should easily fall within budget with the rest of the build.
twitch.tv/medrea
SirHyoon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia46 Posts
March 19 2012 16:13 GMT
#19706
On March 20 2012 00:58 Medrea wrote:
I would suggest a 2500k for "a bit" of video editing. And something like the recently released 7870 for a GPU. Depends on how much you end up wanting to spend. These should easily fall within budget with the rest of the build.

so you reckon paying extra $134 for a 2700K from a 2500K isnt worth it? Just slightly uninformed about how big of a gap in performance it is between them two.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 16:15:27
March 19 2012 16:14 GMT
#19707
On March 19 2012 18:07 LonelyStar wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Sorry I only told you about the mushkin 120gb for 130 at newegg because it was rated high on PassMark Software. The Mushkin Enhanced was rated higher than crucial m4 so I kinda doubt you guys. http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/high_end_drives.html. I only got one question is this PassMark Software site a whole lie like even the cpu and gpu information too? It cause I base all my information on this site. Can you guys tell me if it a lie or not. Thanks again I guess im goin with Capstone 550 and Cruical m4 thanks again please also answer the question


There's like a billion things wrong with Passmark, it's one of the worse available benchmarks yet so many people still use such shit to make purchase decisions. How the hell is a Corsair Force near the top.... wtf?

And you don't understand the benchmark either. I don't see the Mushkin Callisto Deluxe at $140 beating a Crucial M4. The Mushkin is rated at 1639 while the Crucial is at 2074.... The Mushkin at the top is a Chrono Deluxe. If you want to spend $200 on a high-end SSD, you might as well just get an Intel 520 which has exclusive firmware and a five year warranty. Like, why even consider the other Sandforce SSDs?


On March 19 2012 19:55 hkese wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2012 19:51 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 19:46 hkese wrote:
If I want to build a i5, should i wait a big longer for ivy bridge to come out?


Depends on how quickly you want to build your new rig. There are indications that Ivy Bridge won't be out until june (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/c3c3c2b6-602f-11e1-8de4-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1nZUj8n4G), which is still quite a wait. With the performance differences being relatively minimal, I would probably just go for Sandy Bridge myself. With computers there's always the next best thing for one of the components coming out very soon, so you'll never actually get to build one if you keep waiting on these things.


I heard it'll be out by the end of next month. I'm not sure if the performance difference will be minimal, but since I intend to use the computer for 3-4 years, is it a wise idea to wait for the next gen processor



Look at preview and decide for yourself: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5626/
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 19 2012 16:17 GMT
#19708
On March 20 2012 01:13 SirHyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 00:58 Medrea wrote:
I would suggest a 2500k for "a bit" of video editing. And something like the recently released 7870 for a GPU. Depends on how much you end up wanting to spend. These should easily fall within budget with the rest of the build.

so you reckon paying extra $134 for a 2700K from a 2500K isnt worth it? Just slightly uninformed about how big of a gap in performance it is between them two.

Best-case scenario it's about 25% on certain operations, but for most tasks in general you should expect closer to 0%. i7-2600k and i7-2700k are the same except the latter by default coming at 100MHz higher and maybe overclocking very slightly better on average.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_9.html#sect2
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_11.html#sect0
Marodox
Profile Joined June 2011
United States83 Posts
March 19 2012 16:20 GMT
#19709
I just had a OCZ vertex 2 fail on me, would a crucial m4 ssd be a good replacement for reliability?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 16:22:53
March 19 2012 16:22 GMT
#19710
On March 20 2012 01:13 SirHyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 00:58 Medrea wrote:
I would suggest a 2500k for "a bit" of video editing. And something like the recently released 7870 for a GPU. Depends on how much you end up wanting to spend. These should easily fall within budget with the rest of the build.

so you reckon paying extra $134 for a 2700K from a 2500K isnt worth it? Just slightly uninformed about how big of a gap in performance it is between them two.



0% increase in performance in most gaming at same clock speeds for more money.

Nope.jpg

The guaranteed clock rate is not worth the cost. For that money you might as well get the Intel overclock insurance for $20 and OC harder on the 2500k. It takes 2d applications like rendering and streaming to get any performance off of that money.
twitch.tv/medrea
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 19 2012 16:23 GMT
#19711
On March 20 2012 01:20 Marodox wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I just had a OCZ vertex 2 fail on me, would a crucial m4 ssd be a good replacement for reliability?


Yes.
SirHyoon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia46 Posts
March 19 2012 16:28 GMT
#19712
On March 20 2012 01:22 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 01:13 SirHyoon wrote:
On March 20 2012 00:58 Medrea wrote:
I would suggest a 2500k for "a bit" of video editing. And something like the recently released 7870 for a GPU. Depends on how much you end up wanting to spend. These should easily fall within budget with the rest of the build.

so you reckon paying extra $134 for a 2700K from a 2500K isnt worth it? Just slightly uninformed about how big of a gap in performance it is between them two.



0% increase in performance in most gaming at same clock speeds for more money.

Nope.jpg

The guaranteed clock rate is not worth the cost. For that money you might as well get the Intel overclock insurance for $20 and OC harder on the 2500k. It takes 2d applications like rendering and streaming to get any performance off of that money.

Alright then its settled that i'l get the 2500K thank you very much!
Shadowfax
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark44 Posts
March 19 2012 17:26 GMT
#19713
Hi again
Thanks for the feedback. I have been working on this build for a while and think I am about done, I would love if you could take a look and see if i missed anything. If you have corrections or improvements can you please explain in one sentence why thank you!

this is what i have come up with til now
+ Show Spoiler +

Processor
Intel Core i5 2500K - 3,3 GHz - Cache L3 6 Mb - Socket LGA 1155
1436 dkk - 252 usd
http://www.pixmania.com/dk/dk/8314868/art/intel/core-i5-2500k-3-3-ghz-cac.html

MOBO
ASUS P8Z68-V LE - Socket LGA1155 - Chipset Intel Z68 - ATX
1013 dkk - 180 usd
http://www.pixmania.com/dk/dk/10507017/art/asus/p8z68-v-le-socket-lga1155.html#pix-review

CPU Cooler
THERMALRIGHT Ventirad HR-02 Macho
+ Artic Silver 5 - syringe 3,5 g
418 dkk - 73 usd
http://www.pixmania.com/dk/dk/10722634/bundle/thermalright/ventirad-hr-02-macho-ter.html
Is this enough for OC? How much do you think i could OC with this fan?

HDD
Seagate Harddisk Barracuda Green - 2 Tb - 5900 rpm - 64 Mo
838 dkk - 149 usd
http://www.pixmania.com/dk/dk/8050995/art/seagate/harddisk-barracuda-green.html#pix-review


SDD
Samsung Desktop-kit med intern SSD 830 Series MZ-7PC128D/EU - 128 GB
1149 dkk - 202 usd
http://www.pixmania.com/dk/dk/10843803/art/samsung/desktop-kit-med-intern-ss.html

GPU
ASUS GeForce GTX 560 Ti TOP DirectCUII - 1 Gb GDDR5 - PCI-Express 2.0
1554 dkk - 273 usd
http://www.pixmania.com/dk/dk/8901204/art/asus/geforce-gtx-560-ti-top-di.html

RAM
Kingston PC-hukommelse HyperX 2 x 4 Gb DDR3-1600 PC3-12800 CL9
311 dkk - 55 usd
http://www.pixmania.com/dk/dk/9759463/art/kingston/pc-hukommelse-hyperx-2-x.html

CASE
Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus - Miditower - ATX
576 dkk - 101 usd
http://www.pixmania.com/dk/dk/7810812/art/cooler-master/haf-912-plus-miditower-at.html

DVD burner
Samsung Super-WriteMaster SH-222AL - Disk drev - DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM - 22x/22x/12x - Serial ATA - intern - 5.25"
124 dkk - 23 usd
http://www.pixmania.com/dk/dk/10110529/art/samsung/super-writemaster-sh-222a.html

PSU
Antec PC-strømforsyning HCG 750-EC 750 W
777 dkk - 138 usd
http://www.pixmania.com/dk/dk/9864952/art/antec/pc-stromforsyning-hcg-750.html

Total price = 8196 dkk OR 1455 usd


What i am looking for:
+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?
2000 usd max, though i like my current price range.

What is your resolution?
I will be using 2 monitors, the primary is 1920x1080

What are you using it for?
I will be using it mainly for StarCraft 2 and hd (1080p) streaming with web cam and mic. I am looking for a pc that can handle even tough (like team games) situations with the graphics maxed.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I have a relatively slow upgrade cycle, not quite sure as of right now but i would like to keep it running a couple of years and with upgrades along the way (Ram, SLI, OC)

When do you plan on building it?
I plan on ordering and building it in April

Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes, but not that much (have never done it before, advice needed)

Do you need an Operating System?
I am going to get MW 7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No but I will upgrade when needed (if i have understood my mobo can hold 2 graphics cards)

Where are you buying your parts from?
PixMania.com, If any one has better sites that ship to Denmark please let me know. This site seems cheap and has decent reviews


Thanks a lot and keep up the good work!
Follow me on Twitter @ShadowfaxSC. I have some cool stuff in the pipe works and be one of the first to find out!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 19 2012 17:36 GMT
#19714
ASUS P8Z68-V LE is not capable of SLI.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 19 2012 17:47 GMT
#19715
I wouldn't bother building with a SLI upgrade path as an option, but if you want, Gigabyte Z68X-UD3 would do that at the same price.
BlazeTSR
Profile Joined November 2011
United States218 Posts
March 19 2012 18:50 GMT
#19716
If you're in the market for a new gaming computer these guys are a good place to buy custom ones from. You can select a prelayouted out machine right away or customize the parts to your liking. I live in the US (East Coast), and they have nice shipping rates and doesn't take long to ship. If you're not a computer building kind of guy they can also put it all together for you.

http://www.magicmicro.com/
Fan of ........... Protoss: Hero, iNcontroL, Nony Zerg: CatZ and Sheth Terran: Demuslim
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
March 19 2012 18:57 GMT
#19717
They default to logisys PSU's though
twitch.tv/medrea
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 19:01:34
March 19 2012 18:58 GMT
#19718
On March 20 2012 03:50 BlazeTSR wrote:
If you're in the market for a new gaming computer these guys are a good place to buy custom ones from. You can select a prelayouted out machine right away or customize the parts to your liking. I live in the US (East Coast), and they have nice shipping rates and doesn't take long to ship. If you're not a computer building kind of guy they can also put it all together for you.

http://www.magicmicro.com/


Do you happen to work for them, or know someone who does? Those builds are terrible.

$800 for an i5 2300, 8GB RAM, and a 6870 with a 500GB HDD. I'd put them at slightly better than cyberpower, but still horrendous.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
March 19 2012 19:16 GMT
#19719
You can adjust the builds with the drop downs. The punishment for customizing is pretty bad but not god awful.

Still the idea of someone running around with a 2600k and an nVidia 210 blows my mind.

http://www.magicmicro.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=4245

"Gamer"

ಠ_ಠ
twitch.tv/medrea
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 19:18:47
March 19 2012 19:17 GMT
#19720
lol damn you need to pay like $70 more to get an Antec Earthwatts, as the cheapest reasonable option.

edit: maybe in some twisted way we can conclude that the value of the default Logisys is negative, which sounds about right.
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