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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
March 19 2012 03:16 GMT
#19681
What's the benefit of the more expensive case? Simply more resilient?

I meant to include the Noctua NH-D14 in that list.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 03:25:28
March 19 2012 03:24 GMT
#19682
On March 19 2012 12:16 Melancholia wrote:
What's the benefit of the more expensive case? Simply more resilient?

I meant to include the Noctua NH-D14 in that list.

Hopefully it's some combination of better aesthetics (I guess), higher quality construction and quality control (and packaging), dust filtering, better internal layout, being able to support more drives or configurations or maybe even 2.5" drives, more features, better cooling, less noise from included fans, more noise from computer contained within (so less to the user), and so on. Some won't have all of the above as an advantage, just some of the above.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 19 2012 03:26 GMT
#19683
Well if we were to compare the Corsair 550D to your choice of the Rosewill. The Corsair 550D has the following benefits:

- all the fans are connected via header
- it has rubber grommets
- it's a case designed for silent computing
- better HDD mounting and it can mount more as well
- better tool-less system
- water cooling ready
- thumbscrews
- it's not ugly
- It's Corsair product with five years of warranty

and the list probably goes on...
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
March 19 2012 03:56 GMT
#19684
Would you recommend a different case if noise, HDD slots, and aesthetics were not factors?
LonelyStar
Profile Joined March 2012
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 04:56:49
March 19 2012 04:02 GMT
#19685
hey kinda new to teamliquid and also new to computer tech so I need all the help I can get
What is your budget?
$800-1000 US money
What is your resolution?
1080p
What are you using it for?
Gaming semi streaming and school stuff
What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years
When do you plan on building it?
This Month
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes I am overclocking my cpu,gpu and my ram if i find out how to.
Do you need an Operating System?
Nope
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope
Where are you buying your parts from?
Anywhere newegg,tigerdirect,microcenter,amazon,ebay and etc....
Here are some idea of my build i though of
Cpu
Intel i5 2500k also need a heatsink for it
Motherboard
Anyone motherboard that is great for overclocking and not overprice
Ram
No idea what kind of ram i should get DRR3
GPU
Well the games Im goin to goin to be playing is Modern Warfare 2-3, Starcraft 2, Dirt 3, Assassin Creed Series, GTA Series and more. Have in mind of radeon 6870, radeon 6950, or GTX 480 or GTX 560
PSU
No idea just want a PSU that not high on power 80 Plus Gold and other Great PSU also must be quiet
HDD
Any 500gb 7200rpm low price not more than 80 bucks
SSD
Anyone STAT3 120gb or more and can not cost more than 150
Case
Great case good style fit my motherboard, Fit a good number of fans and can not cost more than 70 bucks
DVD
Any cost no more than 20
Looking for a quiet PC and a high end gaming system for the price of 800-1000
Please help Thank you guys in ADVANCE Also provide links please
Life Sucks
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 19 2012 04:35 GMT
#19686
On March 19 2012 12:56 Melancholia wrote:
Would you recommend a different case if noise, HDD slots, and aesthetics were not factors?


Well considering how the Rosewill case is terrible (molex fans, no thumbscrews, mounting system looks god awful, etc), yes.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 19 2012 05:12 GMT
#19687
On March 19 2012 13:02 LonelyStar wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
hey kinda new to teamliquid and also new to computer tech so I need all the help I can get
What is your budget?
$800-1000 US money
What is your resolution?
1080p
What are you using it for?
Gaming semi streaming and school stuff
What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years
When do you plan on building it?
This Month
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes I am overclocking my cpu,gpu and my ram if i find out how to.
Do you need an Operating System?
Nope
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Nope
Where are you buying your parts from?
Anywhere newegg,tigerdirect,microcenter,amazon,ebay and etc....
Here are some idea of my build i though of
Cpu
Intel i5 2500k also need a heatsink for it
Motherboard
Anyone motherboard that is great for overclocking and not overprice
Ram
No idea what kind of ram i should get DRR3
GPU
Well the games Im goin to goin to be playing is Modern Warfare 2-3, Starcraft 2, Dirt 3, Assassin Creed Series, GTA Series and more. Have in mind of radeon 6870, radeon 6950, or GTX 480 or GTX 560
PSU
No idea just want a PSU that not high on power 80 Plus Gold and other Great PSU also must be quiet
HDD
Any 500gb 7200rpm low price not more than 80 bucks
SSD
Anyone STAT3 120gb or more and can not cost more than 150
Case
Great case good style fit my motherboard, Fit a good number of fans and can not cost more than 70 bucks
DVD
Any cost no more than 20
Looking for a quiet PC and a high end gaming system for the price of 800-1000
Please help Thank you guys in ADVANCE Also provide links please


$904 before shipping, taxes, and other fees:

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $180
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Sapphire Radeon HD6870 & GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $204
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851281

Rosewill Capstone 550 @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068

Crucial M4 128GB @ $165
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Bitfenix Shinobi @ $60 (not in stock right now, so depending on when you order - you can select a diff case)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60584&promoid=1363

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $75
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1361

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1361

DVD Burner @ $17
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1361
clarkkent415
Profile Joined December 2010
United States18 Posts
March 19 2012 05:26 GMT
#19688
I have a 1tb internal that I want to convert into an external storage drive. Do you guys have any recommendations for hard drive enclosures? Which brands are reputable and which should I avoid?
gogogo
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 19 2012 05:47 GMT
#19689
On March 19 2012 14:26 clarkkent415 wrote:
I have a 1tb internal that I want to convert into an external storage drive. Do you guys have any recommendations for hard drive enclosures? Which brands are reputable and which should I avoid?

Hard to say. I would think that most of the brands selling enclosures aren't the ones designing the controller, and even if you did know which it used, I don't think there is a lot of information out there about them. This is one of the situations where I'd just sort newegg or Amazon by average customer review score, look around, and hope for the best

USB2 is pretty slow for running a hard drive, so get a eSATA or USB3 enclosure if you care at all about the speed--well, you might not if it's just like media files on there and backup speeds are not a concern. If your computer supports neither, I'd suggest a cheap USB3 controller card to go along with a suitable enclosure.
LonelyStar
Profile Joined March 2012
United States3 Posts
March 19 2012 07:03 GMT
#19690
Thanks Skyr i was thinking on getting everything you said but i have my mind off of the psu any other suggestion that is cheaper and quiet and good watts. Also i was thinkin on getting a different SSD. Would you recommend me this SSD
Mushkin 120GB for 129.99 at newegg. Any other suggestion on SSD and PSU also is the mushkin 120gb at newegg a good SSD?
Life Sucks
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 19 2012 07:35 GMT
#19691
There's nothing quieter than Capstone without being more expensive. There's also nothing of higher quality than Capstone that's cheaper. If you're that concerned with noise you probably want a different case too; if it's just idle noise, even something like Antec Earthwatts Green 500D ($50) should be quiet enough for most people at low loads.

The Mushkin is out of stock now, but it's just pretty much the same as an OCZ Agility 3, Corsair Force 3, etc. These are the lowest-end 2nd-gen SandForce drives, with worse performance than the M4 (but who really cares?) but with some well-known reliability issues. These are generally not recommended unless you don't mind the risk.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 07:36:38
March 19 2012 07:35 GMT
#19692
On March 19 2012 16:03 LonelyStar wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Thanks Skyr i was thinking on getting everything you said but i have my mind off of the psu any other suggestion that is cheaper and quiet and good watts. Also i was thinkin on getting a different SSD. Would you recommend me this SSD
Mushkin 120GB for 129.99 at newegg. Any other suggestion on SSD and PSU also is the mushkin 120gb at newegg a good SSD?


Antec High Current Gamer 520 is available for $55: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=56787&promoid=1361 Though keep in mind that there is nothing better than Capstone for less.

I do not recommend any of Sandforce SSD besides the Intel 520. Crucial M4 is often the least expensive drive that I will recommend.
LonelyStar
Profile Joined March 2012
United States3 Posts
March 19 2012 09:07 GMT
#19693
Sorry I only told you about the mushkin 120gb for 130 at newegg because it was rated high on PassMark Software. The Mushkin Enhanced was rated higher than crucial m4 so I kinda doubt you guys. http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/high_end_drives.html. I only got one question is this PassMark Software site a whole lie like even the cpu and gpu information too? It cause I base all my information on this site. Can you guys tell me if it a lie or not. Thanks again I guess im goin with Capstone 550 and Cruical m4 thanks again please also answer the question
Life Sucks
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
March 19 2012 09:17 GMT
#19694
Synthetic benchmarks aren't always correlated to real world performance.

Sandforce controllers had a lot of issues in the past, and although people say they're fixed now, I wouldn't buy one.

If you doubt skyr, then why bother coming here to ask?
hkese
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
March 19 2012 09:28 GMT
#19695
What is your budget?

~800-850 USD

What is your resolution?

1920 x 1080

What are you using it for?

Facebook Flash Games, Gaming, Movies, etc

What is your upgrade cycle?

3-4 years

When do you plan on building it?

Within a month

Do you plan on overclocking?

Doesn't matter as long as it does not lead to any overheating issue or make the computer noisy.

Do you need an Operating System?

Nope.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No idea what this is so I probably don't need it?

Where are you buying your parts from?

I live in Hong Kong so I will buy the parts from the local arcade. The pricing is really similar to that of US.

Addition notes:

I already got a case and harddisk so don't need those. Please advice me on what I should get. For example, i5 with a more expensive graphic card or i7 with a cheaper graphic card, etc

Thank you all for your suggestion. Much appreciated!
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
March 19 2012 10:05 GMT
#19696
how much of a performance difference is there between the i5 2400 and the ivybridge counterpart?
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
March 19 2012 10:42 GMT
#19697
On March 19 2012 19:05 billy5000 wrote:
how much of a performance difference is there between the i5 2400 and the ivybridge counterpart?


Not that much, maybe 5-10%. Precise detail will become known once the thing is released (which is in the next quarter, but indications are that it may be near the end of it rather that near the beginning). The main differences between Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge will be power consumption and the performance of the integrated graphics processor.
Such flammable little insects!
hkese
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
March 19 2012 10:46 GMT
#19698
If I want to build a i5, should i wait a big longer for ivy bridge to come out?
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
March 19 2012 10:51 GMT
#19699
On March 19 2012 19:46 hkese wrote:
If I want to build a i5, should i wait a big longer for ivy bridge to come out?


Depends on how quickly you want to build your new rig. There are indications that Ivy Bridge won't be out until june (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/c3c3c2b6-602f-11e1-8de4-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1nZUj8n4G), which is still quite a wait. With the performance differences being relatively minimal, I would probably just go for Sandy Bridge myself. With computers there's always the next best thing for one of the components coming out very soon, so you'll never actually get to build one if you keep waiting on these things.
Such flammable little insects!
hkese
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
March 19 2012 10:55 GMT
#19700
On March 19 2012 19:51 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 19:46 hkese wrote:
If I want to build a i5, should i wait a big longer for ivy bridge to come out?


Depends on how quickly you want to build your new rig. There are indications that Ivy Bridge won't be out until june (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/c3c3c2b6-602f-11e1-8de4-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1nZUj8n4G), which is still quite a wait. With the performance differences being relatively minimal, I would probably just go for Sandy Bridge myself. With computers there's always the next best thing for one of the components coming out very soon, so you'll never actually get to build one if you keep waiting on these things.


I heard it'll be out by the end of next month. I'm not sure if the performance difference will be minimal, but since I intend to use the computer for 3-4 years, is it a wise idea to wait for the next gen processor
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