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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 19:21:05
March 19 2012 19:18 GMT
#19721
Yeah I saw lol.

6950 for $285. Wonder if they even have any in stock, I didnt add to cart or anything.
twitch.tv/medrea
ensign_lee
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1178 Posts
March 19 2012 19:18 GMT
#19722
On March 20 2012 01:13 SirHyoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2012 00:58 Medrea wrote:
I would suggest a 2500k for "a bit" of video editing. And something like the recently released 7870 for a GPU. Depends on how much you end up wanting to spend. These should easily fall within budget with the rest of the build.

so you reckon paying extra $134 for a 2700K from a 2500K isnt worth it? Just slightly uninformed about how big of a gap in performance it is between them two.


Depends on which games. I hear BF3 can actually use the hyperthreading, but for all blizz games and most other games, you will notice about 0% improvement between the two.

Reason being that Starcraft II and other games only use 2 cores, so adding more virtual cores through hyperthreading doesn't really help at all.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
March 19 2012 19:30 GMT
#19723
Battlefield 3 supposedly uses 8 threads but its optimization for them is downright awful.

Running Battlefield 3 on a processor with hyperthreading is a huge liability since people with it have been reporting terrible stuttering problems.

BF3 is in fact a prime case where HT hurts gaming performance.
twitch.tv/medrea
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 19:51:12
March 19 2012 19:41 GMT
#19724
On March 19 2012 13:35 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 12:56 Melancholia wrote:
Would you recommend a different case if noise, HDD slots, and aesthetics were not factors?


Well considering how the Rosewill case is terrible (molex fans, no thumbscrews, mounting system looks god awful, etc), yes.

I meant different than the Corsair Obsidian.

Also, what are the differences between the HIS 7970 and the Sapphire 7970 one? The second fan?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 19:57:33
March 19 2012 19:56 GMT
#19725
On March 20 2012 04:41 Melancholia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 13:35 skyR wrote:
On March 19 2012 12:56 Melancholia wrote:
Would you recommend a different case if noise, HDD slots, and aesthetics were not factors?


Well considering how the Rosewill case is terrible (molex fans, no thumbscrews, mounting system looks god awful, etc), yes.

I meant different than the Corsair Obsidian.

Also, what are the differences between the HIS 7970 and the Sapphire 7970 one? The second fan?


Reasons not to get the 550D then would be for lower price, lower size, or lower weight.

The difference in those graphics cards is the cooling solutions (and bundled accessories, and price, and maybe customer service / warranty support). Both use the same reference PCB design; the HIS uses the reference cooling design, while Sapphire packs a custom cooler. I think just saying the second fan is misleading, because that maybe trivializes the difference--the reference cooling design is much noisier and doesn't cool the graphics card as well, but it exhausts most of the heat through the length of the shroud, outside of the case. Sapphire's non-reference design is a typical open-air cooler, which will expel a lot of the heat right back into the chassis, resulting in a bit higher system temperatures.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 19 2012 21:32 GMT
#19726
On March 20 2012 04:41 Melancholia wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2012 13:35 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2012 12:56 Melancholia wrote:
Would you recommend a different case if noise, HDD slots, and aesthetics were not factors?


Well considering how the Rosewill case is terrible (molex fans, no thumbscrews, mounting system looks god awful, etc), yes.

I meant different than the Corsair Obsidian.

Also, what are the differences between the HIS 7970 and the Sapphire 7970 one? The second fan?


Well you should specify what you want for a case if you don't like the 550D since there's a lot of cases...

+ Show Spoiler [just to name a few] +
Coolermaster Cosmos II
Corsair 600T
Silverstone RV03
Thermaltake Level 10GT
Antec P280
Antec Eleven Hundred
Antec Three Hundred Two
Bitfenix Raider
Bitfenix Shinobi
Bitfenix Survivor
Fractal Design Define R3
Coolermaster HAF 912
Coolermaster 690ii Advanced
Coolermaster Storm Enforcer
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
March 20 2012 00:27 GMT
#19727
Price and temperature control. Aesthetics and noise are not concerns. Ease of assembly is worth considering, but is not a primary concern.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 20 2012 01:28 GMT
#19728
HAF 912, 690ii, and Three Hundred Two are the less expensive cases.
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
March 20 2012 03:08 GMT
#19729
Build's probably not super important for this question, but just in case, it's here. Only real change from then to now is I'm now using a dual monitor setup, with the main monitor running at 1920x1080.

My question comes down to this: if I buy an SSD today (well, in, say the next week or two), is there a good reason to not buy the Intel 520? I'm looking at getting either the 120GB or 180GB version at this point. Just want to make sure I'm not missing out on some darkhorse or the like as its been quite some time since I've been what I'd consider well read on the tech scene and it's a little intricate to just jump back into. If you feel moved to wax eloquent on the subject (or to link to some Anand-level guru-ness on the subject that I've missed), I'd be glad to read it.

Thanks in advance.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 20 2012 03:12 GMT
#19730
You can see Anand's review of the 520 here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5508 There's really not much reason to not get it besides pricing or you don't like Sandforce.
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
March 20 2012 03:21 GMT
#19731
Out of curiosity, if I wanted 64GB of RAM why wouldn't I just get 4 sets of something like this 2x8GB GSkill set?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-20 03:26:39
March 20 2012 03:22 GMT
#19732
On March 20 2012 12:21 Melancholia wrote:
Out of curiosity, if I wanted 64GB of RAM why wouldn't I just get 4 sets of something like this 2x8GB GSkill set?


Because there's a fairly limited subset of motherboards with 8 slots, and that's in the insanely expensive benchmark for fun enthusiast class of hardware?

If that is what you want to do, though, there's no reason not to go with the cheaper option.

It does beg the question, though... what do you think you need 64GB of RAM for?
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
March 20 2012 03:39 GMT
#19733
Heavy 3D modelling. I'm asking on behalf of a friend, and we're most likely going to go with 32GB or 48GB.

The motherboard we were looking at has 8 RAM slots, I was mostly wondering if there was some reason why just any 8GB sticks wouldn't play nice at 64GB: $280 - ASRock X79 Extreme6/GB LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 20 2012 03:49 GMT
#19734
You are purchasing it with the knowledge that it sucks right? Because I did mention that it sucks.
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
March 20 2012 05:11 GMT
#19735
On March 20 2012 12:49 skyR wrote:
You are purchasing it with the knowledge that it sucks right? Because I did mention that it sucks.

Ah, I had somehow managed to miss it. Still, for $270 it's tempting. There's an Asus alternative for $260.
Poe
Profile Joined January 2003
United States32 Posts
March 20 2012 07:35 GMT
#19736
I have been slowly updating my computer and am ready to make the switch from amd to intel. I have updated to a great power supply, and my gpu is still quite decent. My next step is getting the i5 2500k, but since currently I have an amd chip/board in my case.. I will have to get a new board at the same time.

I am not super sure on what to look at when getting a board, as I have only built three computers (all amd), so any advice would be greatly appreciated. I am looking to spend around 100-150.

-I use my system for gaming and streaming. I won't need any on board graphics.
-Would like decent and reliable sound quality without buying an additional sound card. I just use a general 2 speaker setup, and of course a headset.
-I currently only have one video card, its an nvidia, that will be my next upgrade after mobo+cpu. I am generally partial to single gpu setups, but it would be nice to have an option of 2x if I decide at some point.
-I have 2 sata hard drives, so I assume just about any board will cover that.
-I live in the desert and it gets toasty here, so my home and therefore computer are always a little warmer. Being able to have several fan plug-ins and speed options would be cool
-I do a little overclocking (hence the 2500k instead of 2500) but usually don't go as far as altering voltage. Would like a board that has at least decent overclocking options and bios

These are some of the things I have been considering but I just have no clue:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128498
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130582
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130596
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138317

I of course am interested to hear of better options for equal cost as those I listed, with the same criteria I am looking for

Thanks in advance for the help!
Currently Streaming: Diablo 3 - twitch.tv/rtspoe
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 20 2012 08:03 GMT
#19737
Z68MA ED55 can't do SLI. Z68X-UD3H has like no fan headers (and if you're going to spend $160 on a board, you might as well get the P8Z68-V), the same goes for the Biostar. P67A-G45 is okay but sort of overpriced at $140.

I would suggest the Asrock Z68 Extreme3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
Poe
Profile Joined January 2003
United States32 Posts
March 20 2012 08:13 GMT
#19738
Okay cool, that looks pretty well priced. I didn't even see that one, it is easy to get lost in the hundreds of boards on there. Thanks!
Currently Streaming: Diablo 3 - twitch.tv/rtspoe
Aycrith
Profile Joined August 2010
14 Posts
March 20 2012 16:53 GMT
#19739
What is your budget?

1000$

What is your resolution?

1920x1080 x4

What are you using it for?

Gaming/Streaming/Work

What is your upgrade cycle?

Very long time, no plans on upgrading in the near future.

When do you plan on building it?

ASAP

Do you plan on overclocking?

No

Do you need an Operating System?

No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Yes, I created a post about a week ago. Everyone was very helpful giving me additional information on what would work best on for my situation. I've decided that I need SLI and 2 cards to support 4 monitors. I just need to know what are the most cost efficient cards to buy that will last me the longest amount of time.

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg unless anyone has a better solution.

In my last post I was hoping to use some of my old parts frrom my existing computer. I've now decided to overhaul everything and buy everything from the case up.

Thank you everyone!
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
March 20 2012 18:56 GMT
#19740
Why are people worried about overclocking? Can't you just follow a simple guide on how to overclock and be set? Sorry, I've never overclocked before, but I'm a bit uneasy why there is even a preference whether you want to overclock or not when the process is so simple and the value is much much better (or so I've heard).
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
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