EPTAs mentioned above, all the +12V power no matter which rail is handled by all the same hardware, except in a few rare circumstances like for the Corsair HX1000 and a few other units. Just look at the total +12V rating. If there's no total +12V rating specified on a multi-rail power supply, it's a POS unit you shouldn't be using that has something to hide or is just making the numbers up anyway.
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
As mentioned above, all the +12V power no matter which rail is handled by all the same hardware, except in a few rare circumstances like for the Corsair HX1000 and a few other units. Just look at the total +12V rating. If there's no total +12V rating specified on a multi-rail power supply, it's a POS unit you shouldn't be using that has something to hide or is just making the numbers up anyway. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
Continuously, made sense, I was just either confused or not reading properly into the other PSU's. It completely makes sense that continuous would be better (or what I want at least), just for some reason I don't remember it being mentioned in most of the supplies. I probably wasn't reading clearly enough though XD. | ||
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STYDawn
137 Posts
On March 21 2012 06:16 xeo1 wrote: for anyone looking for a cheap build capable of playing blizz games on max GtX 460? just no. Hd 6850 or 6870 is better and less power use too. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:04 STYDawn wrote: GtX 460? just no. Hd 6850 or 6870 is better and less power use too. Power consumption aside, a GTX 460 running at 876 MHz (up from nominal 675 MHz, so a 30% OC) should be comparable to a HD 6870 or maybe even better, and the price is just $150. It's an EVGA model too, for what that's worth--cheapest 6850/6870 alternatives won't have the same kind of warranty support. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On March 21 2012 12:12 Myrmidon wrote: Power consumption aside, a GTX 460 running at 876 MHz (up from nominal 675 MHz, so a 30% OC) should be comparable to a HD 6870 or maybe even better, and the price is just $150. It's an EVGA model too, for what that's worth--cheapest 6850/6870 alternatives won't have the same kind of warranty support. Also the version 2 GTX 460, better BIOS and voltage type stuff, a lot of them can actually hit 900+Mhz on air. And EVGA support is so awesome, I literally have it programmed in my cell, and call them for any issue I can't sort normally, even if it isn't really related to one of their products. | ||
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StratWaffle
United States28 Posts
http://www.gulypro.com/products/24459/ GPU Radian 6570 HD. 60 dollars. http://www.computermakler.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=5068¤cy=USD Intel Pentium G620, 2x 2.60GHz, boxed (BX80623G620) 50 dollars on this site, 70 dollars on newegg Ati Radeon Hd 6570 1GB Hdmi Dvi PCI-e2.0 55 dollars Hp 15" Tft 1024x768 Lcd Display Monitor 70 dollars http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=23-201-038&SortField=1&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=(keywords)&Page=1#scrollFullInfo 10 gaming keyboard 10 dollars for speakers mid tower case with power supply 4GB(2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHZ System Memory 40 dollars Total without OS or dvd drive $298.91 This is my favorite option right now I feel. Is http://www.ascendtech.us/intel-dual-core-g620-barebones-computer_i_dtbbdualcorg620.aspx a good website for bare bones computers? Anyone have any experience with them? | ||
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Poe
United States32 Posts
I have a gtx 260, phenom x4, 500w gold cert PSU Perhaps a dumb question, but I have never ran with dual monitors so figured I would ask before sinking any money into it. Thanks again! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 21 2012 16:10 Poe wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I am also thinking of getting a secondary monitor. My current is a 24 in hd at 1920:1080. Will picking up another monitor (around a 20in) put any noticeable extra strain on my PSU or my GPU/CPU? Especially while gaming or streaming. I have a gtx 260, phenom x4, 500w gold cert PSU Perhaps a dumb question, but I have never ran with dual monitors so figured I would ask before sinking any money into it. Thanks again! Monitors don't pull power from the power supply.. they plug directly into the wall -.-' and a second monitor isn't a big deal. | ||
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Poe
United States32 Posts
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Makaveli1
United States118 Posts
Im going to get a i5 2500k, but I have a question Is the i5 2550k better? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115230 Or is the i5 2500k better http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 And what motherboard should I get with a budget of 150$? | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7583 Posts
What is your budget? I'm not set on this, but I'm going to go for the most 'bang for the buck' that satisfy my requirements unless it becomes too expensive, which is unlikely. I'll go as high as ~$1200 for now for the rig alone. What is your resolution? I currently have a 1600x900 monitor, and I will look to buy a second monitor to use as a primary one. Later on I'll upgrade the current monitor I have probably. What are you using it for? I'll be gaming and streaming, and I want to be able to stream at high if not the quality I see it. My upload can probably handle it. I suppose I might encode videos, but unlikely going to really do anything intensive beyond gaming/streaming until I upgrade. What is your upgrade cycle? I'll say 2 years for now. I would basically want to snag up on deals as time goes on and upgrade continually. When do you plan on building it? I would like to buy my parts soon, say within two weeks. I've heard something is coming out soon (yeah real specific!) so if there are any drastic price changes, I'll wait. Do you plan on overclocking? This I am not so sure. I am quite computer-noob. I need advice here. Do you need an Operating System? I would need one but I have access to discounted ones through university or acquire it otherwise. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I don't think this will be needed. Where are you buying your parts from? I do have a Fry's nearby that I can access nearly all the time; Microcenter is a bit far but I suppose I can go there once if I wanted any deals. Other notes: Games I'll be playing: BW, SCII, LoL, Dota2, and possibly GW2 + other games, which I haven't touched for some time. If there are interesting titles that come out, I'll be willing to play them, so I would like for those games to be able to run at least in medium setting, preferably high/highest + possibly stream them as well. I want a SSD to boot OS from and to have games that I play the most on it. Then probably 1-3 traditional HD to cover my storage needs. I do like to store data a LOT so I'll want a healthy amount, let's say 5 TB for safety. Using them in RAID configuration increases speed right? So I'll be getting 2-3 internal HD. I currently have a 2TB Seagate external. However I heard that sata speed > usb speed so is there a way to make one of the HD external while still using sata so I can quickly transfer large amount of data if needed? As stated earlier, a monitor, and possibly two if I get a good deal. Not sure how big I want it though, although I suppose it may be time to move on from 17 and 19 inch monitors? (I still have a 22inch CRT in storage far away though, lol). Currently I have a Antec900 with following parts: e6750@2.66, 2x1gb ddr2 800, 8800GTS. I found the case to be a bit clunky to carry around though. I wouldn't mind using the same case, but if possible, use a smaller case. And if there are good ways to carry the desktop around (like a specialized bag with cushions that fits desktop + peripheries perhaps) that isn't exorbitantly priced I'll get one. I do want a pair of speakers, if anyone has a good recommendation for a bang-for-buck ones please do so. I also keep a ridiculous amount of tabs (20-60) open while browsing internet, which is a habit I'm going to fix eventually, but probably going to continue on for a while. I want to keep using my keyboard that uses a ps2 connector (dt-35). There is a ps2->USB adaptor right? Or will I have to ditch this =[ I have limited experience assembling computers, basically watched someone assemble my old computer somewhat. But I should have help. I'll update on this for a later. Worst situation I'll ask friend of a friend for dinner or something. Thanks for all the help, it's very appreciated. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
Even modern boards still hold onto the PS/2 standard so it should be fine. As for the rest of the build, we really would like to know if you are willing to OC. Honestly overclocking is very easy this generation and not scary at all as long as you are careful and follow directions very well. And for the truly paranoid there is intel insurance for like $20 that totally covers you. | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7583 Posts
If it's easy and manageable, I'll do it. As long as it's doable following instructions and poses minimal risks on the process itself and afterwards it shouldn't be a problem. | ||
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thirtythree
38 Posts
CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80623I52500K-Core-i5-2500K-Processor/dp/B004EBUXHQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2KAXXUB81YZ60&colid=1LM5AJKVCXVPN Video Card GTX 680(if I can get one ^_^) Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131790 OR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131806 Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233180 PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182132 SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167086 Also, I plan on overclocking so if you guys can recommend any heatsinks that would be awesome Again, feedback is greatly appreciated | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 21 2012 18:13 Wala.Revolution wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Finally, I've decided to build a new computer. What is your budget? I'm not set on this, but I'm going to go for the most 'bang for the buck' that satisfy my requirements unless it becomes too expensive, which is unlikely. I'll go as high as ~$1200 for now for the rig alone. What is your resolution? I currently have a 1600x900 monitor, and I will look to buy a second monitor to use as a primary one. Later on I'll upgrade the current monitor I have probably. What are you using it for? I'll be gaming and streaming, and I want to be able to stream at high if not the quality I see it. My upload can probably handle it. I suppose I might encode videos, but unlikely going to really do anything intensive beyond gaming/streaming until I upgrade. What is your upgrade cycle? I'll say 2 years for now. I would basically want to snag up on deals as time goes on and upgrade continually. When do you plan on building it? I would like to buy my parts soon, say within two weeks. I've heard something is coming out soon (yeah real specific!) so if there are any drastic price changes, I'll wait. Do you plan on overclocking? This I am not so sure. I am quite computer-noob. I need advice here. Do you need an Operating System? I would need one but I have access to discounted ones through university or acquire it otherwise. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I don't think this will be needed. Where are you buying your parts from? I do have a Fry's nearby that I can access nearly all the time; Microcenter is a bit far but I suppose I can go there once if I wanted any deals. Other notes: Games I'll be playing: BW, SCII, LoL, Dota2, and possibly GW2 + other games, which I haven't touched for some time. If there are interesting titles that come out, I'll be willing to play them, so I would like for those games to be able to run at least in medium setting, preferably high/highest + possibly stream them as well. I want a SSD to boot OS from and to have games that I play the most on it. Then probably 1-3 traditional HD to cover my storage needs. I do like to store data a LOT so I'll want a healthy amount, let's say 5 TB for safety. Using them in RAID configuration increases speed right? So I'll be getting 2-3 internal HD. I currently have a 2TB Seagate external. However I heard that sata speed > usb speed so is there a way to make one of the HD external while still using sata so I can quickly transfer large amount of data if needed? As stated earlier, a monitor, and possibly two if I get a good deal. Not sure how big I want it though, although I suppose it may be time to move on from 17 and 19 inch monitors? (I still have a 22inch CRT in storage far away though, lol). Currently I have a Antec900 with following parts: e6750@2.66, 2x1gb ddr2 800, 8800GTS. I found the case to be a bit clunky to carry around though. I wouldn't mind using the same case, but if possible, use a smaller case. And if there are good ways to carry the desktop around (like a specialized bag with cushions that fits desktop + peripheries perhaps) that isn't exorbitantly priced I'll get one. I do want a pair of speakers, if anyone has a good recommendation for a bang-for-buck ones please do so. I also keep a ridiculous amount of tabs (20-60) open while browsing internet, which is a habit I'm going to fix eventually, but probably going to continue on for a while. I want to keep using my keyboard that uses a ps2 connector (dt-35). There is a ps2->USB adaptor right? Or will I have to ditch this =[ I have limited experience assembling computers, basically watched someone assemble my old computer somewhat. But I should have help. I'll update on this for a later. Worst situation I'll ask friend of a friend for dinner or something. Thanks for all the help, it's very appreciated. I went over the budget given that you need multiple HDDs >.> but I listed a cheaper / worse alternative for HDDs if you want to stay within budget. The alternative is you can get an eSATA / USB3 external instead of using internal HDDs. This is an overclockable configuration for $1298 before taxes and other applicable fees. I put emphasis on how hot those deals are so I'd suggest you jump on them right away if you are building soon before you miss out. You can get the Intel 520 for $170: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167093 if you miss out on the Samsung 830. The case has a handle and is rather small compared to some others so I guess this is what you're looking for? You can of course shop around for smaller / more mobile cases yourself on Newegg. Intel Core i5 2500k @ $180 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589 Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 Sapphire Radeon HD6870 & GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $204 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851281 Rosewill Capstone 550 @ $64 (w/ promo code BTENGJA57, ends 3/25) HOT!!! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068 Samsung 830 128GB @ $140 (w/ promo code 24HRSALE321N, ends 3/21) HOT!!! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163 Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB @ $120 x4 = $480 (500GB platter, 5 year warranty) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284 + Show Spoiler [alternative if you want cheaper] + Seagate Barracuda 2TB @ $120 x 2 = $240 (1TB platter, 1 year warranty) http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&promoid=1361 Bitfenix Survivor @ $90 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57590&promoid=1361 DVD Burner @ $17 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1361 + Show Spoiler + I guess this isn't necessary since you can salvage the one from your current configuration. Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1361 | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 22 2012 01:20 thirtythree wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hi guys about to pull the trigger on this one, would love any feedback particularly about picking a motherboard: CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80623I52500K-Core-i5-2500K-Processor/dp/B004EBUXHQ/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2KAXXUB81YZ60&colid=1LM5AJKVCXVPN Video Card GTX 680(if I can get one ^_^) Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131790 OR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131806 Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233180 PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182132 SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167086 Also, I plan on overclocking so if you guys can recommend any heatsinks that would be awesome Again, feedback is greatly appreciated You can get the 2500k for $200 with free shipping: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=57962&promoid=1361 Coolermaster Hyper 212+ is $23 if you want an inexpensive but good heatsink: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1361 If you want something better than the Thermalright HR-02 Macho is available from Amazon at a decent price I think and than there's always the flagship heatsinks such as the Phanteks PH-TC14PE, Thermalright Silver Arrow, and Noctua NH-D14 for around $90. Though keep in mind, these larger heatsinks do not have clearance for the ridiculously tall Vengeance heatspreaders, I suggest you just grab low-profile memory such as this mushkin kit for $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226191 You don't want to do SLI with a mATX board. And the P8Z68-V Pro is essentially the same board plus two SATA ports over a P8Z68-V so I'd suggest that instead for $160 from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B005UDITT6/ , $180 from Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131792 Rosewill Hive is okay but the Capstone is way better (minus modular cabling), the 550w variant (which provides the same amount of power as the Hive 650 fyi) is available for $64 with promo code: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068 Though I would get the 650w variant since you will be doing SLI with GTX 680s, available for $80 with promo code: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071 | ||
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thirtythree
38 Posts
Also I didn't even realize this but there's also an i5-2550k cpu that I didn't see. Is it worth it to get that instead of an i5-2500k or are they the same chip just factory clocked differently? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 22 2012 02:13 thirtythree wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I don't plan on doing SLI. It looked like the choices for getting a PCIe 3.0 board with a 1155 socket were a bit limited but that one from amazon looks great. I didn't even realize that one of the boards I linked was mATX. Also I didn't even realize this but there's also an i5-2550k cpu that I didn't see. Is it worth it to get that instead of an i5-2500k or are they the same chip just factory clocked differently? I hope you know that PCIe 3.0 boards are useless without Ivybridge. If you're not doing SLI than you can get the Capstone 550 for $64. I'd suggest a less expensive board as well unless you're a big fan of ASUS than I guess it's okay to stick with the P8Z68-V. 2550k is just a 2500k with the IGP disabled and is clocked higher as you said. | ||
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thirtythree
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Ivybridge is required for PCI-E 3.0. Sandybridge is only capable of 2.0 regardless of what board you have. | ||
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